OT: US Presidential debate

[Mighty Mouse]

Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

the media are saying Harris won

[Xeno]

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Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

the media are saying Harris won

Doesn't surprise me at all.

[Petzl]

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:06:43 +1000, Mighty Mouse

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Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

the media are saying Harris won

Of course "we" believe media and hi-tech

Alexa Why should I vote for Donald Trump

The 2024 presidential election will be won
just as honestly as the 2020 one was.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Petzl
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:06:43 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

the media are saying Harris won

Of course "we" believe media and hi-tech
http://youtu.be/jbo1gkS3Okk
Alexa Why should I vote for Donald Trump

that got fixed

Post by Petzl
The 2024 presidential election will be won
just as honestly as the 2020 one was.

[Petzl]

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 23:35:34 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Petzl
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:06:43 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

the media are saying Harris won

Of course "we" believe media and hi-tech
http://youtu.be/jbo1gkS3Okk
Alexa Why should I vote for Donald Trump

that got fixed

Removing intended deciet promoting Harris?

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Post by Petzl
The 2024 presidential election will be won
just as honestly as the 2020 one was.

--
Have a nice day!

--
Petzl
What is the harm of for the Democrats validating the voting system.
Is it because the Democrats have something to hide?

Amazing to think that Lyndon Johnson perfected the
'sit-wait-see how many we need to win-then dump our
stuffed ballots at the last moment' electoral technique
in post-war Texas, and nothing has changed in US elections
in the 7 decades since.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_election_in_Texas#Legal_battle>
The Left is fine with Vaccine Cards
but NOT voter IDs. Paying attention yet?

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Petzl
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 23:35:34 +1000, Mighty Mouse

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Post by Petzl
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:06:43 +1000, Mighty Mouse

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Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

the media are saying Harris won

Of course "we" believe media and hi-tech
http://youtu.be/jbo1gkS3Okk
Alexa Why should I vote for Donald Trump

that got fixed

Removing intended deciet promoting Harris?

I think it now gives the same sort of answer about voting for Trump or
Harris

Post by Petzl

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Petzl
The 2024 presidential election will be won
just as honestly as the 2020 one was.

--
Have a nice day!

[Rod Speed]

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Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

the media are saying Harris won

Irrelevant who 'won'

[Xeno]

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced me
that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his haranguing
of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position except
that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

[Mighty Mouse]

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Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote
for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced me
that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from
anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace.
she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking. she
talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President now! the
Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those things
she says she will do. why haven't they?

[Ozix]

Post by Mighty Mouse
his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Yes demographics have changed compared to 8 years ago. The senior
citizens who voted for Don are dying off, and younger generations are
now significant bloc.

[Xeno]

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Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote
for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced me
that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from
anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace.

The Afghanistan withdrawal was planned and organised by *Trump*. It was
only executed by Biden.

Post by Mighty Mouse
she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking. she
talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President now! the
Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those things
she says she will do. why haven't they?

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Xeno

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Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and
anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a
bloody disgrace.

The Afghanistan withdrawal was planned and organised by *Trump*. It
was only executed by Biden.

no, it execution was all Bidens doing. Trump only had planned to
withdraw. Trump would never have left soldiers there to be captured or
killed, would have evacuated all the civilians first, and never have
left billions of dollars of Arms and military equipment. the dems say
but most of the heavy equipment was made unserviceable, but the Afghans
have been able to use much of it by cannibalizing for parts, and
sourcing parts. and they got heaps of small arms and ammo.

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking.
she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President now!
the Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those
things she says she will do. why haven't they?

[Clocky]

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Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and
anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a
bloody disgrace.

The Afghanistan withdrawal was planned and organised by *Trump*. It
was only executed by Biden.

no, it execution was all Bidens doing. Trump only had planned to
withdraw. Trump would never have left soldiers there to be captured or
killed, would have evacuated all the civilians first, and never have
left billions of dollars of Arms and military equipment. the dems say
but most of the heavy equipment was made unserviceable, but the Afghans
have been able to use much of it by cannibalizing for parts, and
sourcing parts. and they got heaps of small arms and ammo.

Nonsense.

"As part of the United States–Taliban deal, the Trump administration
agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from 13,000 to 8,600 troops
by July 2020, followed by a complete withdrawal by 1 May 2021, if the
Taliban kept its commitments."

They did and so did the US and it's as simple as that.
There was never an intention to do anything other than what they did and
that was orchestrated by Trump.

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Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking.
she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President now!
the Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those
things she says she will do. why haven't they?

[Mighty Mouse]

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Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans
are happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not
they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after
all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in
the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US,
and anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal
was a bloody disgrace.

The Afghanistan withdrawal was planned and organised by *Trump*. It
was only executed by Biden.

no, it execution was all Bidens doing. Trump only had planned to
withdraw. Trump would never have left soldiers there to be captured
or killed, would have evacuated all the civilians first, and never
have left billions of dollars of Arms and military equipment. the
dems say but most of the heavy equipment was made unserviceable, but
the Afghans have been able to use much of it by cannibalizing for
parts, and sourcing parts. and they got heaps of small arms and ammo.

Nonsense.
"As part of the United States–Taliban deal, the Trump administration
agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from 13,000 to 8,600
troops by July 2020, followed by a complete withdrawal by 1 May 2021,
if the Taliban kept its commitments."
They did and so did the US and it's as simple as that.
There was never an intention to do anything other than what they did
and that was orchestrated by Trump.

but NOT the way it was done

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Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking.
she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President
now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already done any
of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

[alvey]

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Post by Clocky

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no, it execution was all Bidens doing. Trump only had planned to
withdraw. Trump would never have left soldiers there to be captured
or killed, would have evacuated all the civilians first, and never
have left billions of dollars of Arms and military equipment. the
dems say but most of the heavy equipment was made unserviceable, but
the Afghans have been able to use much of it by cannibalizing for
parts, and sourcing parts. and they got heaps of small arms and ammo.

Nonsense.
"As part of the United States–Taliban deal, the Trump administration
agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from 13,000 to 8,600
troops by July 2020, followed by a complete withdrawal by 1 May 2021,
if the Taliban kept its commitments."
They did and so did the US and it's as simple as that.
There was never an intention to do anything other than what they did
and that was orchestrated by Trump.

but NOT the way it was done

Seriously? C'mon felix! Do you honestly think that Potus would have
*any* involvement in the logistics of planning of a military exercise?
What you're doing is the equivalent of blaming our PM for your wheelie
bin not being collected last Wednesday.


alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

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no, it execution was all Bidens doing. Trump only had planned to
withdraw. Trump would never have left soldiers there to be captured
or killed, would have evacuated all the civilians first, and never
have left billions of dollars of Arms and military equipment. the
dems say but most of the heavy equipment was made unserviceable,
but the Afghans have been able to use much of it by cannibalizing
for parts, and sourcing parts. and they got heaps of small arms and
ammo.

Nonsense.
"As part of the United States–Taliban deal, the Trump administration
agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from 13,000 to 8,600
troops by July 2020, followed by a complete withdrawal by 1 May
2021, if the Taliban kept its commitments."
They did and so did the US and it's as simple as that.
There was never an intention to do anything other than what they did
and that was orchestrated by Trump.

but NOT the way it was done

Seriously? C'mon felix! Do you honestly think that Potus would have
*any* involvement in the logistics of planning of a military exercise?

POTUS is commander in Chief of the Armed forces. he dictates what and
how things are to be done. is it not so?

Post by alvey
What you're doing is the equivalent of blaming our PM for your wheelie
bin not being collected last Wednesday.
alvey

[Rod Speed]

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if the Taliban kept its commitments."
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and that was orchestrated by Trump.

but NOT the way it was done

Seriously? C'mon felix! Do you honestly think that Potus would have =
*any* involvement in the logistics of planning of a military exercise=

?

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POTUS is commander in Chief of the Armed forces.

Yep

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he dictates what and how things are to be done.

Not at that level of detail which is just as well
given that no Prez except Ike and Washington
ever had any military experience.

The Prez doesnt even get to declare war, congress does.

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is it not so?

Fraid not.

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bin not being collected last Wednesday.

[Keithr0]

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no, it execution was all Bidens doing. Trump only had planned to
withdraw. Trump would never have left soldiers there to be captured
or killed, would have evacuated all the civilians first, and never
have left billions of dollars of Arms and military equipment. the
dems say but most of the heavy equipment was made unserviceable,
but the Afghans have been able to use much of it by cannibalizing
for parts, and sourcing parts. and they got heaps of small arms and
ammo.

Nonsense.
"As part of the United States–Taliban deal, the Trump administration
agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from 13,000 to 8,600
troops by July 2020, followed by a complete withdrawal by 1 May
2021, if the Taliban kept its commitments."
They did and so did the US and it's as simple as that.
There was never an intention to do anything other than what they did
and that was orchestrated by Trump.

but NOT the way it was done

Seriously? C'mon felix! Do you honestly think that Potus would have
*any* involvement in the logistics of planning of a military exercise?

POTUS is commander in Chief of the Armed forces. he dictates what and
how things are to be done. is it not so?

You said that you were in the ADF for 10 years, apparently you learned
nothing about how things are organised in that time.

[Mighty Mouse]

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no, it execution was all Bidens doing. Trump only had planned to
withdraw. Trump would never have left soldiers there to be
captured or killed, would have evacuated all the civilians first,
and never have left billions of dollars of Arms and military
equipment. the dems say but most of the heavy equipment was made
unserviceable, but the Afghans have been able to use much of it
by cannibalizing for parts, and sourcing parts. and they got
heaps of small arms and ammo.

Nonsense.
"As part of the United States–Taliban deal, the Trump
administration agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from
13,000 to 8,600 troops by July 2020, followed by a complete
withdrawal by 1 May 2021, if the Taliban kept its commitments."
They did and so did the US and it's as simple as that.
There was never an intention to do anything other than what they
did and that was orchestrated by Trump.

but NOT the way it was done

Seriously? C'mon felix! Do you honestly think that Potus would have
*any* involvement in the logistics of planning of a military exercise?

POTUS is commander in Chief of the Armed forces. he dictates what and
how things are to be done. is it not so?

You said that you were in the ADF for 10 years, apparently you learned
nothing about how things are organised in that time.

I'm no expert on such matters, but military operations require
presidential sanction, do they not? if potus fails to properly direct
his generals on how military operations are to be conducted, and they
fail to the extent of discrediting the nation, the blame falls on him.

[Rod Speed]

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and never have left billions of dollars of Arms and military =
equipment. the dems say but most of the heavy equipment was made=

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unserviceable, but the Afghans have been able to use much of it =

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cannibalizing for parts, and sourcing parts. and they got heaps =

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small arms and ammo.

Nonsense.
"As part of the United States=E2=80=93Taliban deal, the Trump =
administration agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from =
13,000 to 8,600 troops by July 2020, followed by a complete =
withdrawal by 1 May 2021, if the Taliban kept its commitments."
They did and so did the US and it's as simple as that.
There was never an intention to do anything other than what they =

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did and that was orchestrated by Trump.

but NOT the way it was done

Seriously? C'mon felix! Do you honestly think that Potus would have=

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nothing about how things are organised in that time.

I'm no expert on such matters,

That's obvious

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but military operations require presidential sanction, do they not?

Nope, not the detail of the withdrawal from Afghanistan
which had already been agreed to by Trump and congress.

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if potus fails to properly direct his generals onhow military =
operations are to be conducted,

No prez ever does that since Washington.

Not even Lincoln or Ike did that.

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and they fail to the extent of discrediting the nation, the blame fall=

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on him.

Wrong, as always, given that Biden just did
what Trump and congress had agreed to do.

[Keithr0]

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no, it execution was all Bidens doing. Trump only had planned to
withdraw. Trump would never have left soldiers there to be
captured or killed, would have evacuated all the civilians first,
and never have left billions of dollars of Arms and military
equipment. the dems say but most of the heavy equipment was made
unserviceable, but the Afghans have been able to use much of it
by cannibalizing for parts, and sourcing parts. and they got
heaps of small arms and ammo.

Nonsense.
"As part of the United States–Taliban deal, the Trump
administration agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from
13,000 to 8,600 troops by July 2020, followed by a complete
withdrawal by 1 May 2021, if the Taliban kept its commitments."
They did and so did the US and it's as simple as that.
There was never an intention to do anything other than what they
did and that was orchestrated by Trump.

but NOT the way it was done

Seriously? C'mon felix! Do you honestly think that Potus would have
*any* involvement in the logistics of planning of a military exercise?

POTUS is commander in Chief of the Armed forces. he dictates what and
how things are to be done. is it not so?

You said that you were in the ADF for 10 years, apparently you learned
nothing about how things are organised in that time.

I'm no expert on such matters, but military operations require
presidential sanction, do they not? if potus fails to properly direct
his generals on how military operations are to be conducted, and they
fail to the extent of discrediting the nation, the blame falls on him.

The president says withdraw, he may say withdraw by such and such date,
but the planning is done by the military. Did you not notice that, in
the military, the higher the rank, the more vague the orders.

Just the same in civvie life, the boss says"I want this done", the
higher underboss splits the task between the lower underbosses who then
detail individuals to do their bit. The boss doesn't care about the
details, just that the task gets done.

[Rod Speed]

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Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone
from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody
disgrace.

The Afghanistan withdrawal was planned and organised by *Trump*. It was
only executed by Biden.

no, it execution was all Bidens doing.

Bullshit. No prez gets any say on the detail of the withdrawal.

Post by Mighty Mouse
Trump only had planned to withdraw.

He negotiated the detail with the Talibums.

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Trump would never have left soldiers there to be captured or killed,

No US soldiers were ever captured and it wasnt
even possible to ensure that all the non Talibums
had been evacuated. That didnt happen with the
withdrawal from Vietnam either and isnt something
that any prez ever gets any say on.

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would have evacuated all the civilians first,

Not even possible and wasnt with Vietnam or Syria either.

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and never have left billions of dollars of Arms and military equipment.

Not even possible to move it all out of Afghanistan and
wasnt with Vietnam either.

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the dems say but most of the heavy equipment was made unserviceable, but
the Afghans have been able to use much of it by cannibalizing for parts,
and sourcing parts. and they got heaps of small arms and ammo.

And havent done anything with it. Same with Vietnam.

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she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking. she
talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President now! the
Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those
things she says she will do. why haven't they?

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone
from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody
disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg.
fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

oh, and let's not forget she's a rabid markist lefty.

[Petzl]

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 10:50:14 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone
from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody
disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg.
fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

oh, and let's not forget she's a rabid markist lefty.

Now Kamala Harris is bring shown whiter then President Trump
https://t.ly/uV_d0
Kamala Harris and President Trump appear during the second
presidential debate at the Pennsylvania Convention Center in
Philadelphia on Tuesday. (Getty Images)
*********************
Joe Biden face images were weird also
https://t.ly/QZuZS
Joe Biden | "It Almost Looks Like It Is a Different Tan." - Patrick
Bet-David | "Jonna Mendez Was the Former Disguise Officer of the CIA &
Her Job Was to Make Different Masks of People to Make Them Look Real."
- Patrick Bet-David
**************************
Then when he was ambulance raced back From Las Vegas to Dover Air
Force Base, He then wandered onto a Russian Airfore (spy exchange) for
a few minutes and came out 12 inches taller?

Joe Rogan on Biden's Height Difference

[Keithr0]

Post by Petzl
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 10:50:14 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone
from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody
disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg.
fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

oh, and let's not forget she's a rabid markist lefty.

Now Kamala Harris is bring shown whiter then President Trump
https://t.ly/uV_d0
Kamala Harris and President Trump appear during the second
presidential debate at the Pennsylvania Convention Center in
Philadelphia on Tuesday. (Getty Images)

yes, lol. and when Trump asked a perfectly legitimate question, whether
she identifies as Indian or black, the media crucified him for it.

Exactly why does she have to identify as anything?

[Rod Speed]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Petzl
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 10:50:14 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone
from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody
disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg.
fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

oh, and let's not forget she's a rabid markist lefty.

Now Kamala Harris is bring shown whiter then President Trump
https://t.ly/uV_d0
Kamala Harris and President Trump appear during the second
presidential debate at the Pennsylvania Convention Center in
Philadelphia on Tuesday. (Getty Images)

yes, lol. and when Trump asked a perfectly legitimate question,
whether she identifies as Indian or black, the media crucified him for
it.

Exactly why does she have to identify as anything?

Because she has previously claimed both.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Petzl
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 10:50:14 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone
from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody
disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg.
fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

oh, and let's not forget she's a rabid markist lefty.

Now Kamala Harris is bring shown whiter then President Trump
https://t.ly/uV_d0
Kamala Harris and President Trump appear during the second
presidential debate at the Pennsylvania Convention Center in
Philadelphia on Tuesday. (Getty Images)

yes, lol. and when Trump asked a perfectly legitimate question,
whether she identifies as Indian or black, the media crucified him
for it.

Exactly why does she have to identify as anything?

she is Indian, but is now claiming to be black no doubt to attract black
voters

[Keithr0]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Petzl
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 10:50:14 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone
from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody
disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg.
fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

oh, and let's not forget she's a rabid markist lefty.

Now Kamala Harris is bring shown whiter then President Trump
https://t.ly/uV_d0
Kamala Harris and President Trump appear during the second
presidential debate at the Pennsylvania Convention Center in
Philadelphia on Tuesday. (Getty Images)

yes, lol. and when Trump asked a perfectly legitimate question,
whether she identifies as Indian or black, the media crucified him
for it.

Exactly why does she have to identify as anything?

she is Indian, but is now claiming to be black no doubt to attract black
voters

She has an Indian mother and a Jamaican father, so she is both.

[Keithr0]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone
from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody
disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg.
fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

oh, and let's not forget she's a rabid markist lefty.

Where's the smiley after that comment?

[Daryl]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and
anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a
bloody disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes,
eg. fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

oh, and let's not forget she's a rabid markist lefty.

Where's the smiley after that comment?

He must have forgotten.
Anyone in Australia calling almost any US politician left is odd when
their left is well to the right of any Australian politician, their
commos would be considered right wing extremists here.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Daryl

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and
anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a
bloody disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes,
eg. fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

oh, and let's not forget she's a rabid markist lefty.

Where's the smiley after that comment?

He must have forgotten.
Anyone in Australia calling almost any US politician left is odd when
their left is well to the right of any Australian politician,

That's bullshit with Biden alone.

Post by Daryl
their commos would be considered right wing extremists here.

[Noddy]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse
oh, and let's not forget she's a rabid markist lefty.

Where's the smiley after that comment?

Take whatever Felix claims with a massive grain of salt. He has to look
at his driver's licence to see what his own name is.

[alvey]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote
for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced me
that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar'

Trump displays his ignorance and contempt for women again. Czars are
men. Women rulers are Czarinas. Oh and don't forget, modern America was
created by 'illegal immigrants'. They were so thankful for their start
in the New World that they had say in that doctrine of, "Give me your
tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..."

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from
anywhere in the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

Post by Mighty Mouse
the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace.

Yep, if only the might and right of the USA had a few more decades then
things just might have been... err... worse. Clearly 20 years of
occupation wasn't enough.

Post by Mighty Mouse
she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking.
she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President now! the
Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those things
she says she will do. why haven't they?

I'm surprised that no-one has responded to this silly accusation with
former Veep John Nance Garners' celebrated quote, "The vice-presidency
ain't worth a pitcher of warm piss"(a). Oh and perhaps mentioning that
neither Biden or Obamas' presidencies never had control of both houses
and might have hindered/halted some of their legislation could be
relevant?


alvey
(a) It's usually quoted as "warm spit".

[Rod Speed]

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote
for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced me
that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar'

Trump displays his ignorance and contempt for women again.

We'll see...

Post by alvey
Czars are men. Women rulers are Czarinas.

Pity about chairmen, president etc. The world moves on.

Post by alvey
Oh and don't forget, modern Americawas created by 'illegal immigrants'.

Bullshit it was. There was no relevant law when
the first lot showed up and those that showed
up thru Ellis Island were never illegals.

Post by alvey
They were so thankful for their start in the New World that they had say
in that doctrine of, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses
yearning to breathe free..."

So they weren't illegals, stupid.

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals and
terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

Post by Mighty Mouse
the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace.

Yep, if only the might and right of the USA had a few more decades then
things just might have been... err... worse. Clearly 20 years of
occupation wasn't enough.

Post by Mighty Mouse
she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking.
she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President now!
the Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those
things she says she will do. why haven't they?

I'm surprised that no-one has responded to this silly accusation with
former Veep John Nance Garners' celebrated quote, "The vice-presidency
ain't worth a pitcher of warm piss"(a). Oh and perhaps mentioning that
neither Biden or Obamas' presidencies never had control of both houses
and might have hindered/halted some of their legislation could be
relevant?

[alvey]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

 his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

 and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar'

Trump displays his ignorance and contempt for women again.

We'll see...

"We'll see" what?

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
Czars are  men. Women rulers are Czarinas.

Pity about chairmen, president etc. The world moves on.

I have no idea what your point is. Do you?

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
Oh and don't forget, modern Americawas  created by 'illegal immigrants'.

Bullshit it was. There was no relevant law when
the first lot showed up

Paraphrasing. It's not a recreation you know. Besides, the current
illegals are, despite the rantings of the Great Orange Head, *far* less
dangerous to the current lot of natives than those first boat people were.

Post by Rod Speed
and those that showed
up thru Ellis Island were never illegals.

That's because it wasn't illegal to have a passport to enter America
until 1978.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
They were so thankful for their start in the New World that they had
say in that doctrine of, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled
masses yearning to breathe free..."

So they weren't illegals, stupid.

Repeat, it was paraphrasing. And after your dismal, error-riddled
performance here, calling anyone "stupid" is classic stand-up. ie Leave
'em laughing.



alvey

[Rod Speed]

Post by alvey

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar'

Trump displays his ignorance and contempt for women again.

We'll see...

"We'll see" what?

Whether that shit of yours is accurate.

Post by alvey

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
Czars are men. Women rulers are Czarinas.

Pity about chairmen, president etc. The world moves on.

I have no idea what your point is.

That we dont bother with sexual variants for titles anymore.

Post by alvey

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
Oh and don't forget, modern America
was created by 'illegal immigrants'.

Bullshit it was. There was no relevant law when
the first lot showed up

Paraphrasing.

Ignorantly bullshitting in fact.

Post by alvey
It's not a recreation you know.

Try that again in english.

Post by alvey
Besides, the current illegals are, despite the rantings of the Great
Orange Head, *far* less dangerous to the current lot of natives than
those first boat people were.

Irrelevant to whether the first lot were ILLEGAL

Post by alvey

Post by Rod Speed
and those that showed up thru Ellis Island were never illegals.

That's because it wasn't illegal to have apassport to enter America
until 1978.

Nothing to do with passports, those were INVITED to more
to the USA by the govts of the time who were selective about
who they allowed to land in the USA proper. Some were refused
entry at Ellis Island and were sent back to where they came from.

Post by alvey

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
They were so thankful for their start in the New World that they had
say in that doctrine of, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled
masses yearning to breathe free..."

So they weren't illegals, stupid.

Repeat, it was paraphrasing.

That's not what that word means.

<reams of your even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by alvey

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans
are happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not
they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after
all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in
the same position

 his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

 and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar'

Trump displays his ignorance and contempt for women again.

We'll see...

"We'll see" what?

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
Czars are  men. Women rulers are Czarinas.

Pity about chairmen, president etc. The world moves on.

I have no idea what your point is. Do you?

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
Oh and don't forget, modern Americawas created by 'illegal immigrants'.

Bullshit it was. There was no relevant law when
the first lot showed up

Paraphrasing. It's not a recreation you know. Besides, the current
illegals are, despite the rantings of the Great Orange Head, *far*
less dangerous to the current lot of natives than those first boat
people were.

Post by Rod Speed
and those that showed
up thru Ellis Island were never illegals.

That's because it wasn't illegal to have a passport to enter America
until 1978.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
They were so thankful for their start in the New World that they had
say in that doctrine of, "Give me your tired, your poor, your
huddled masses yearning to breathe free..."

So they weren't illegals, stupid.

Repeat, it was paraphrasing. And after your dismal, error-riddled
performance here, calling anyone "stupid" is classic stand-up. ie
Leave 'em laughing.

arguing with Speed is like arguing with noddy. it goes nowhere. it's
futile because all he wants is to dominate the exchange, and will say
anything to that end. truth and accuracy are irrelevant to him. best to
just ignore him.

Post by alvey
alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans
are happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not
they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump,
after all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds
himself in the same position

 his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

 and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern
border, and she was the 'border czar'

Trump displays his ignorance and contempt for women again.

We'll see...

"We'll see" what?

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
Czars are  men. Women rulers are Czarinas.

Pity about chairmen, president etc. The world moves on.

I have no idea what your point is. Do you?

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
Oh and don't forget, modern Americawas created by 'illegal
immigrants'.

Bullshit it was. There was no relevant law when
the first lot showed up

Paraphrasing. It's not a recreation you know. Besides, the current
illegals are, despite the rantings of the Great Orange Head, *far*
less dangerous to the current lot of natives than those first boat
people were.

Post by Rod Speed
and those that showed
up thru Ellis Island were never illegals.

That's because it wasn't illegal to have a passport to enter America
until 1978.

Post by Rod Speed

Post by alvey
They were so thankful for their start in the New World that they
had say in that doctrine of, "Give me your tired, your poor, your
huddled masses yearning to breathe free..."

So they weren't illegals, stupid.

Repeat, it was paraphrasing. And after your dismal, error-riddled
performance here, calling anyone "stupid" is classic stand-up. ie
Leave 'em laughing.

arguing with Speed is like arguing with noddy. it goes nowhere. it's
futile because all he wants is to dominate the exchange, and will say
anything to that end. truth and accuracy are irrelevant to him. best
to just ignore him.

oh, I forgot to mention the abuse you'll get as thanks for your efforts

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
alvey

[alvey]

Post by Mighty Mouse
arguing with Speed is like arguing with noddy. it goes nowhere.

Where he has a distinct advantage. "Nowhere" being a home game for him.

Post by Mighty Mouse
it's futile because all he wants is to dominate the exchange, and will say
anything to that end. truth and accuracy are irrelevant to him.

It's amazing how many strident blockheads are so very dogmatic and
abusive. (There's a gag in there about Dogma being trounced by Kamala
but, meh...)

Post by Mighty Mouse
best to just ignore him.

I've run across Roddles before, he's been around forever. God knows why.



alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
arguing with Speed is like arguing with noddy. it goes nowhere.

Where he has a distinct advantage. "Nowhere" being a home game for him.

Post by Mighty Mouse
it's futile because all he wants is to dominate the exchange, and
will say anything to that end. truth and accuracy are irrelevant to him.

It's amazing how many strident blockheads are so very dogmatic and
abusive. (There's a gag in there about Dogma being trounced by Kamala
but, meh...)

Post by Mighty Mouse
best to just ignore him.

I've run across Roddles before, he's been around forever. God knows why.

I think he's in his eighties?

Post by alvey
alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar'

Trump displays his ignorance and contempt for women again. Czars are
men. Women rulers are Czarinas. Oh and don't forget, modern America
was created by 'illegal immigrants'.

yes, and they conquered and killed off the native population

Post by alvey
They were so thankful for their start in the New World that they had
say in that doctrine of, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled
masses yearning to breathe free..."

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals and
terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace.

Yep, if only the might and right of the USA had a few more decades
then things just might have been... err... worse. Clearly 20 years of
occupation wasn't enough.

I meant the way it was done, not that it happened

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking.
she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President now!
the Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those
things she says she will do. why haven't they?

I'm surprised that no-one has responded to this silly accusation with
former Veep John Nance Garners' celebrated quote, "The vice-presidency
ain't worth a pitcher of warm piss"(a). Oh and perhaps mentioning that
neither Biden or Obamas' presidencies never had control of both houses
and might have hindered/halted some of their legislation could be
relevant?
alvey
(a) It's usually quoted as "warm spit".

[alvey]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals and
terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't* of
the Murdoch hue?


alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals and
terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't*
of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

Post by alvey
alvey

[Clocky]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals and
terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't*
of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

Post by alvey
alvey

You won't get the truth from far right biased media either, much less
likely to in fact.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals
and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in
the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't*
of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

Post by alvey
alvey

You won't get the truth from far right biased media either, much less
likely to in fact.

what do you class as right biased media?

[Keithr0]

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Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals
and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in
the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't*
of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

Post by alvey
alvey

You won't get the truth from far right biased media either, much less
likely to in fact.

what do you class as right biased media?

In Australia, any Murdock paper, and Sky news after dark for a start.

[Rod Speed]

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 15:21:12 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals and
terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't*
of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

Post by alvey
alvey

You won't get the truth from far right biased media either, much less
likely to in fact.

what do you class as right biased media?

Fox News, Terrograph, Murdoch's shit rags.

[Keithr0]

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Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals and
terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't*
of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

Bet you watch Shy after dark for an "Unbiased" opinion

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals
and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in
the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't*
of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

Bet you watch Shy after dark for an "Unbiased" opinion

what is Shy?

[Keithr0]

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Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals
and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in
the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't*
of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

Bet you watch Shy after dark for an "Unbiased" opinion

what is Shy?

A misprint for Sky.

Here's a conundrum for you. Your sig used to be "Fuck Putin", but your
hero Trump admires him, and, should he be voted president, would likely
hand Ukraine over to him. So, has your opinion of Putin changed then?

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals
and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere
in the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that
*isn't* of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

Bet you watch Shy after dark for an "Unbiased" opinion

what is Shy?

A misprint for Sky.
Here's a conundrum for you. Your sig used to be "Fuck Putin", but your
hero Trump admires him, and, should he be voted president, would
likely hand Ukraine over to him.

there's no conundrum since Trump is not my hero. we are discussing the
upcoming USA presidential election. apparently it needs to be pointed
out to you that there are only two candidates, one is right wing and the
other left wing. voters must choose one or the other, but since I'm not
an American voter I do not need to choose.

Post by Keithr0
So, has your opinion of Putin changed then?

no

[Rod Speed]

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Post by Keithr0

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Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals
and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in
the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't*
of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

Bet you watch Shy after dark for an "Unbiased" opinion

what is Shy?

A misprint for Sky.
Here's a conundrum for you. Your sig used to be "Fuck Putin", but your
hero Trump admires him, and, should he be voted president, would likely
hand Ukraine over to him.

No US prez can ever do that. Or even stop the
shipment of anything to the Ukraine either

Post by Keithr0
So, has your opinion of Putin changed then?

[alvey]

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Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals and
terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world.

What? No mention of them eating the pets in Springfield?

yes that and criminal activity, invading property, and getting
government handouts and accommodation not available to legal residents

are you disputing this is fact?

If you mean all of the above then, Yes. Officials in Springfield have
stated that there is no credible evidence of domestic pets being eaten.
Although I expect to see it on The Simpsons shortly. As for the other
claims, as they are attached to the "Haitians are eating peoples'
pets!", then there's not a lot of point fact-checking them is there?

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
Idle question. Do you ever read or watch any mainstream that *isn't*
of the Murdoch hue?

I don't watch the lefty biased ABC or SBS if that's what you're getting at.

No, "any mainstream" means what it says. eg. The Washington Post has for
years featured a Trump fact-checking segment. Fork knows how many people
work in it. Must be a shedload though. They tallied 30,573 false or
misleading statements by Trump during his Presidency(a).

aside: On the ABC.au ... It'll be interesting to see if incoming
supremo Kim Williams follows up on his declaration of getting ABC news
back to being a serious news organisation and not just a clone of their
FTA rivals.



alvey
(a) https://tinyurl.com/2sd824z

[Rod Speed]

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Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced me
that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Bullshit

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent.

We'll see...

No Vice gets any say on policy.

Post by Mighty Mouse
the Democrats opened the Southern border,

Bullshit they did.

Post by Mighty Mouse
and she was the 'border czar'

Bullshit she was.

Post by Mighty Mouse
who allowed literally millions of illegals including criminals and
terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world.

More of your pig ignorant bullshit.

Post by Mighty Mouse
the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace.

But was put in place by Trump. Biden just did what he had agreed to do.

Post by Mighty Mouse
she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking. she
talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President now!

But no VP gets to decide policy.

Post by Mighty Mouse
the Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those
things she says she will do. why haven't they?

Because no VP gets to decide policy.

[Keithr0]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote
for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced me
that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone from
anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace.
she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking. she
talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice President now! the
Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those things
she says she will do. why haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to the
US and the world than he would.

Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

[Daryl]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border, and
she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of illegals
including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and anyone
from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody
disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes, eg.
fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to the
US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

LOL.

[Noddy]

Post by Keithr0
And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory.

Trump is a meglomaniac who made a compete moron out of himself with his
imbecilic claims and inability to answer direct questions. He is an
*idiot*, and so is anyone who thinks otherwise.

Post by Keithr0
She would probably do less harm to the US and the world than he would.

There is no "probably" about it. If she gets elected the Americans will
finally have decent health care, and maybe have effective gun controls.
That cannot be bad in anyone's books.

Post by Keithr0
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

Indeed it is.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0
And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory.

Trump is a meglomaniac who made a compete moron out of himself with his
imbecilic claims and inability to answer direct questions. He is an
*idiot*, and so is anyone who thinks otherwise.

Post by Keithr0
She would probably do less harm to the US and the world than he would.

There is no "probably" about it. If she gets elected the Americans will
finally have decent health care,

That's not up to the president, its up to congress.

Post by Noddy
and maybe have effective gun controls.

Ditto and the supremes

Post by Noddy
That cannot be bad in anyone's books.

Pity its an ignorant fantasy

[Petzl]

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 21:25:57 +1000, Keithr0

Post by Keithr0
And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to the
US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

When libs say "but even Taylor swift endorsed Kamala"
Yea, because they pay her to.
Taylor swift is paid to look how they want, act how they want, think
how they want, sing how they want, speak how they want, and vote how
they want.
If she makes one wrong move, she's out... like so many others.
Taylor swift minus her billions = average plain Jane working a basic
min wage job, living pay check to pay check, crushed by bidenomics.
This Taylor swift would not be endorsing Kamala. The only reason she
can thrive in bidenomics is because she's got billions.
She doesn't represent the average American and never will.
--
Petzl
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot
survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable,
for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves
amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling
through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself
For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar
to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he
appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He
rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night
to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so
that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.

- Marcus Tullius Cicero

[Daryl]

Post by Petzl
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 21:25:57 +1000, Keithr0

Post by Keithr0
And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to the
US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

When libs say "but even Taylor swift endorsed Kamala"
Yea, because they pay her to.

ROTFL, you don't pay billionaires to do anything, she already has more
than enough money so its unlikely money would be an incentive for her to
do anything.

Post by Petzl
Taylor swift is paid to look how they want, act how they want, think
how they want, sing how they want, speak how they want, and vote how
they want.

See above, that's very wrong.

Post by Petzl
If she makes one wrong move, she's out... like so many others.

I'm not a fan of her music but I have watched her talking and the way
she acts with other people and she looks to be very much in charge, she
actually seems to be a very nice person who understands exactly what she
is doing.
No way is she a puppet that has been manipulated.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and
anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a
bloody disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes,
eg. fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to the
US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

[Keithr0]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US, and
anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal was a
bloody disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain votes,
eg. fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is the Vice
President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have already
done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to the
US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

She's an American.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans
are happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not
they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after
all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in
the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US,
and anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal
was a bloody disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to
gain votes, eg. fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she
is the Vice President now! the Democrats are in power, they could
have already done any of those things she says she will do. why
haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to
the US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

She's an American.

I thought she was English

[Keithr0]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans
are happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not
they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after
all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in
the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US,
and anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal
was a bloody disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to
gain votes, eg. fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she
is the Vice President now! the Democrats are in power, they could
have already done any of those things she says she will do. why
haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to
the US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

She's an American.

I thought she was English

Good God, you're a fan of hers and didn't even know that, explains why
you think Trump is a person fit to be POTUS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift

Taylor Alison Swift (born December 13, 1989) is an American
singer-songwriter. Known for her autobiographical songwriting, artistic
reinventions, and cultural impact, Swift is a leading figure in popular
music and the subject of widespread public interest.

[Mighty Mouse]

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Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying
goes, what the election will come down to is whether or not
Americans are happy with the way things are for them now or
not. if not they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump,
after all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds
himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern
border, and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally
millions of illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood
into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world. the
Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace. she has reversed
some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking. she talks about
what she will do, but she is the Vice President now! the
Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those
things she says she will do. why haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to
the US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

She's an American.

I thought she was English

Good God, you're a fan of hers and didn't even know that, explains why
you think Trump is a person fit to be POTUS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift
Taylor Alison Swift (born December 13, 1989) is an American
singer-songwriter. Known for her autobiographical songwriting,
artistic reinventions, and cultural impact, Swift is a leading figure
in popular music and the subject of widespread public interest.

when has knowing a singers bio been a requirement for liking their music?

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Keithr0

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Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying
goes, what the election will come down to is whether or not
Americans are happy with the way things are for them now or
not. if not they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump,
after all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds
himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern
border, and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally
millions of illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood
into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world. the
Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace. she has reversed
some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking. she talks about
what she will do, but she is the Vice President now! the
Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those
things she says she will do. why haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to
the US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

She's an American.

I thought she was English

Good God, you're a fan of hers and didn't even know that, explains why
you think Trump is a person fit to be POTUS.

did I say that? in case you haven't noticed there are only two choices

Post by Keithr0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift
Taylor Alison Swift (born December 13, 1989) is an American
singer-songwriter. Known for her autobiographical songwriting,
artistic reinventions, and cultural impact, Swift is a leading figure
in popular music and the subject of widespread public interest.

since when has knowing a singers bio been a requirement for liking their
music

[Keithr0]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

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Post by Mighty Mouse

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Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying
goes, what the election will come down to is whether or not
Americans are happy with the way things are for them now or
not. if not they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump,
after all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds
himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern
border, and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally
millions of illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood
into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world. the
Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace. she has reversed
some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking. she talks about
what she will do, but she is the Vice President now! the
Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those
things she says she will do. why haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to
the US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

She's an American.

I thought she was English

Good God, you're a fan of hers and didn't even know that, explains why
you think Trump is a person fit to be POTUS.

did I say that? in case you haven't noticed there are only two choices

Post by Keithr0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift
Taylor Alison Swift (born December 13, 1989) is an American singer-
songwriter. Known for her autobiographical songwriting, artistic
reinventions, and cultural impact, Swift is a leading figure in
popular music and the subject of widespread public interest.

since when has knowing a singers bio been a requirement for liking their
music

So good that you had to say it twice. It would be logical to expect a
fan to be aware of basic facts about the object of their fandom, beside
which the entire world, except you apparently, knows that she is American.

[Rod Speed]

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 15:58:03 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans
are happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they
will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that convinced
me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after all his
haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US,
and anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal
was a bloody disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to gain
votes, eg. fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she is
the Vice President now! the Democrats are in power, they could have
already done any of those things she says she will do. why haven't
they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to
the US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

She's an American.

I thought she was English

Nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris#Early_life_and_career

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Rod Speed
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 15:58:03 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying
goes, what the election will come down to is whether or not
Americans are happy with the way things are for them now or
not. if not they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump,
after all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds
himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern
border, and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally
millions of illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood
into the US, and anyone from anywhere in the world. the
Afghanistan withdrawal was a bloody disgrace. she has reversed
some of her policies to gain votes, eg. fracking. she talks about
what she will do, but she is the Vice President now! the
Democrats are in power, they could have already done any of those
things she says she will do. why haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to
the US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

She's an American.

I thought she was English

Nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris#Early_life_and_career

we're talking about Tay Tay

[Rod Speed]

Post by Rod Speed
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 15:58:03 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans
are happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not
they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump, after
all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds himself in
the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US,
and anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal
was a bloody disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to
gain votes, eg. fracking. she talks about what she will do, but she
is the Vice President now! the Democrats are in power, they could
have already done any of those things she says she will do. why
haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to
the US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

She's an American.

I thought she was English

Nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris#Early_life_and_career

whoops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift#Early_life

[Keithr0]

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 15:58:03 +1000, Mighty Mouse <squeak!

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans
are happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not
they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Didn't watch it. Saw a few of her campaign speeches, that
convinced me that she has the conjones to beat Trump. Trump,
after all his haranguing of Biden being too old, now finds
himself in the same position

his age will definitely go against him especially with younger voters

Post by Xeno
except that his opponent, Harris, is *way younger* and sharp as a tack.

and grossly incompetent. the Democrats opened the Southern border,
and she was the 'border czar' who allowed literally millions of
illegals including criminals and terrorists to flood into the US,
and anyone from anywhere in the world. the Afghanistan withdrawal
was a bloody disgrace. she has reversed some of her policies to
gain votes, eg. fracking. she talks about what she will do, but
she is the Vice President now! the Democrats are in power, they
could have already done any of those things she says she will do.
why haven't they?

And Trump is a dangerous narcissist who will do anything that he
perceives will bring him glory. She would probably do less harm to
the US and the world than he would.
Anyway TayTay has endorsed Harris so it's all over for Trump.

what would she know about US politics

She's an American.

I thought she was English

Nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris#Early_life_and_career

Wrong woman.

[Computer Nerd Kev]

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it?

I watched the Planet America show on the ABC for highlights, but it
turns out they weren't allowed to show much at all. Both candidates
annoy me though, so I'm probably the better for it. Comparing with
US politics is the only thing that makes Australian politics look
bearable.

Post by Mighty Mouse
at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not.

Both candidates seem to be presuming not, since they're both
pushing hard with some concept of change. The way Harris chirpily
goes on about it without really saying anything manages to grate
on me even more than Trump rambling on irrelevantly, but some
people doubtless lap up either form of BS.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Computer Nerd Kev

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it?

I watched the Planet America show on the ABC for highlights, but it
turns out they weren't allowed to show much at all. Both candidates
annoy me though, so I'm probably the better for it. Comparing with
US politics is the only thing that makes Australian politics look
bearable.

Post by Mighty Mouse
at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not.

Both candidates seem to be presuming not, since they're both
pushing hard with some concept of change. The way Harris chirpily
goes on about it without really saying anything manages to grate
on me even more than Trump rambling on irrelevantly, but some
people doubtless lap up either form of BS.

the parodies of her on instagram are very good and humourous

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Computer Nerd Kev

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it?

I watched the Planet America show on the ABC for highlights, but it
turns out they weren't allowed to show much at all. Both candidates
annoy me though, so I'm probably the better for it. Comparing with
US politics is the only thing that makes Australian politics look
bearable.

Post by Mighty Mouse
at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not.

Both candidates seem to be presuming not, since they're both
pushing hard with some concept of change. The way Harris chirpily
goes on about it without really saying anything manages to grate
on me even more than Trump rambling on irrelevantly, but some
people doubtless lap up either form of BS.

the parodies of her on instagram are very good and humourous

I noticed my computer clock is wrong. fixed it now

[alvey]

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at

Yep

Post by Mighty Mouse
the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

As the nation has already had Trump as Potus, and he is no different
now, then he's not really a "change".

Anyhoo, in the post-debate, the US media has given a stunning
demonstration of how incredibly biased it is. Harris smashed Trump all
around the park, at times he looked and sounded like an elderly,
punch-drunk boxer, yet a significant amount of mainstream, and
absolutely masses of memes had it the other way. Incredible.



alvey
They say that only the good die young. Rupert Murdoch is 93.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at

Yep

Post by Mighty Mouse
the end of the day, as the saying goes, what the election will come
down to is whether or not Americans are happy with the way things are
for them now or not. if not they will vote for change. ie. Trump

As the nation has already had Trump as Potus, and he is no different
now, then he's not really a "change".

well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a change to
a Republican government

Post by alvey
Anyhoo, in the post-debate, the US media has given a stunning
demonstration of how incredibly biased it is.

certainly are

Post by alvey
Harris smashed Trump all around the park, at times he looked and
sounded like an elderly, punch-drunk boxer, yet a significant amount
of mainstream, and absolutely masses of memes had it the other way.
Incredible.
alvey
They say that only the good die young. Rupert Murdoch is 93.

[Clocky]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at

Yep

Post by Mighty Mouse
the end of the day, as the saying goes, what the election will come
down to is whether or not Americans are happy with the way things are
for them now or not. if not they will vote for change. ie. Trump

As the nation has already had Trump as Potus, and he is no different
now, then he's not really a "change".

well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a change to
a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.

The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump V2?
Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic process. Trump
aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at

Yep

Post by Mighty Mouse
the end of the day, as the saying goes, what the election will come
down to is whether or not Americans are happy with the way things are
for them now or not. if not they will vote for change. ie. Trump

As the nation has already had Trump as Potus, and he is no different
now, then he's not really a "change".

well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a change
to a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.
The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump V2?
Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic process.
Trump aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

Fantasy. He didnt do anything like what Putin is
doing in the Ukraine, in Syria or anywhere else.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at

Yep

Post by Mighty Mouse
the end of the day, as the saying goes, what the election will come
down to is whether or not Americans are happy with the way things
are for them now or not. if not they will vote for change. ie. Trump

As the nation has already had Trump as Potus, and he is no different
now, then he's not really a "change".

well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a change
to a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.
The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump V2?
Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic process. Trump
aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

but the salient question is who is best for America?

[Petzl]

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 00:16:32 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse
well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a change
to a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.
The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump V2?
Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic process. Trump
aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

but the salient question is who is best for America?

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160, endorses
Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156. Cackling
Kamala, who can't even do a press conference or interview, is said to
have an IQ around 120. think I'll take my advice from successful
intelligent people rather than dumb lefties.

If the Capital of Australia, Washington D.C. goes down Albanese will
follow them down.
https://www.instagram.com/assangecampaign/reel/C-6DcDMovgq/
https://t.ly/fLSCv
Julian Assange, in a clip from 2015, discusses Australia's true
capital: Washington, D.C.
Assange breaks down Australia's geopolitical reality.
--
Petzl
**On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord, one thousand, eight hundred and eighty-three.
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died**
Cultural Marxism aims
1. The creation of racism offenses.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
5. Huge immigration and multiculturalism to destroy a countries identity.
6. The promotion of drug taking (while pretending it is bad)
7. Emptying of churches
(Only the Christian churches as the underlying basis of our society is Judaeo Christian) Other religions are to be promoted and protected.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime (Soft sentencing, revolving doors, more concern for the welfare of criminals than victims)
9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family by:
(a) Attack the authority of the father.
(b) deny the specific roles of father and mother.
(c) Wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
(d) Abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
(e) Abolish all forms of male dominance
(f) Declare women to be an 'oppressed class' and men as 'oppressors'

[Petzl]

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 05:12:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"

Post by Petzl
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 00:16:32 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse
well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a change
to a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.
The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump V2?
Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic process. Trump
aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

but the salient question is who is best for America?

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160, endorses
Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156. Cackling
Kamala, who can't even do a press conference or interview, is said to
have an IQ around 120. think I'll take my advice from successful
intelligent people rather than dumb lefties.
http://youtu.be/aFiz5att4X8

If the Capital of Australia, Washington D.C.

Mindless bullshit.

Post by Petzl
goes down Albanese will follow them down.

More mindless bullshit.

Post by Petzl
https://www.instagram.com/assangecampaign/reel/C-6DcDMovgq/
https://t.ly/fLSCv
Julian Assange, in a clip from 2015, discusses Australia's true
capital: Washington, D.C.
Assange breaks down Australia's geopolitical reality.

Nope, just mindlessly bullshits.

Well Anthony is promoting a graphic pedophile book for 10 year olds?
<https://www.rebelnews.com/pm_pushes_social_media_age_limits_while_sex_guide_for_kids_gets_pms_book_award_honour>
https://t.ly/5clbN
PM pushes social media age limits while sex guide for kids gets PM's
book award honour
A new social media age limit is being proposed to 'protect kids' while
the PM's Literacy Awards has shortlisted a controversial sex guide for
children as young as eight.
--
Petzl
**On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord, one thousand, eight hundred and eighty-three.
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died**
Cultural Marxism aims
1. The creation of racism offenses.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
5. Huge immigration and multiculturalism to destroy a countries identity.
6. The promotion of drug taking (while pretending it is bad)
7. Emptying of churches
(Only the Christian churches as the underlying basis of our society is Judaeo Christian) Other religions are to be promoted and protected.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime (Soft sentencing, revolving doors, more concern for the welfare of criminals than victims)
9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family by:
(a) Attack the authority of the father.
(b) deny the specific roles of father and mother.
(c) Wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
(d) Abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
(e) Abolish all forms of male dominance
(f) Declare women to be an 'oppressed class' and men as 'oppressors'

[Rod Speed]

Post by Petzl
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 05:12:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"

Post by Petzl
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 00:16:32 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse
well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a change
to a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.
The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump V2?
Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic process. Trump
aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

but the salient question is who is best for America?

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160, endorses
Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156. Cackling
Kamala, who can't even do a press conference or interview, is said to
have an IQ around 120. think I'll take my advice from successful
intelligent people rather than dumb lefties.
http://youtu.be/aFiz5att4X8

If the Capital of Australia, Washington D.C.

Mindless bullshit.

Post by Petzl
goes down Albanese will follow them down.

More mindless bullshit.

Post by Petzl
https://www.instagram.com/assangecampaign/reel/C-6DcDMovgq/
https://t.ly/fLSCv
Julian Assange, in a clip from 2015, discusses Australia's true
capital: Washington, D.C.
Assange breaks down Australia's geopolitical reality.

Nope, just mindlessly bullshits.

Well Anthony is promoting a graphic pedophile book for 10 year olds?
<https://www.rebelnews.com/

Irrelevant to that shit of yours above.

pm_pushes_social_media_age_limits_while_sex_guide_for_kids_gets_pms_book_award_honour>

Post by Petzl
https://t.ly/5clbN
PM pushes social media age limits while sex guide for kids gets PM's
book award honour

Not done by Albo, stupid.

Post by Petzl
A new social media age limit is being proposed to 'protect kids' while
the PM's Literacy Awards has shortlisted a controversial sex guide for
children as young as eight.

[Daryl]

Post by Petzl
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 05:12:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"

Post by Petzl
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 00:16:32 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse
well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a change
to a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.
The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump V2?
Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic process. Trump
aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

but the salient question is who is best for America?

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160, endorses
Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156. Cackling
Kamala, who can't even do a press conference or interview, is said to
have an IQ around 120. think I'll take my advice from successful
intelligent people rather than dumb lefties.
http://youtu.be/aFiz5att4X8

If the Capital of Australia, Washington D.C.

Mindless bullshit.

Post by Petzl
goes down Albanese will follow them down.

More mindless bullshit.

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https://www.instagram.com/assangecampaign/reel/C-6DcDMovgq/
https://t.ly/fLSCv
Julian Assange, in a clip from 2015, discusses Australia's true
capital: Washington, D.C.
Assange breaks down Australia's geopolitical reality.

Nope, just mindlessly bullshits.

Well Anthony is promoting a graphic pedophile book for 10 year olds?
<https://www.rebelnews.com/pm_pushes_social_media_age_limits_while_sex_guide_for_kids_gets_pms_book_award_honour>
https://t.ly/5clbN
PM pushes social media age limits while sex guide for kids gets PM's
book award honour
A new social media age limit is being proposed to 'protect kids' while
the PM's Literacy Awards has shortlisted a controversial sex guide for
children as young as eight.

The PM or anyone else in Govt can propose all sorts of shit but in the
end what children are allowed to see and read comes down to their parents.
If you ask my 12yr old grandson how many genders there are his answer is
3 male, female and mentally deluded, his father has the biggest
influence on his thinking, when the school started teaching the kids
their version of gender BS so many parents complained they were forced
to stop.

[alvey]

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160, endorses
Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156.

"reported to be 156" by who? Foxnews?
Could you please supply one credible source for this factoid?

You do know that Trump lies a lot don't you?

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by alvey

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160, endorses
Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156.

"reported to be 156" by who? Foxnews?
Could you please supply one credible source for this factoid?

I read it online. you can google as well as I can if not better.

Post by alvey
You do know that Trump lies a lot don't you?

wasn't him that said it. he was tested at Uni, or somewhere

[alvey]

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Post by alvey

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160, endorses
Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156.

"reported to be 156" by who? Foxnews?
Could you please supply one credible source for this factoid?

I read it online. you can google as well as I can if not better.

Post by alvey
You do know that Trump lies a lot don't you?

wasn't him that said it.

Ashley, he has boasted of his "high iq". Frequently even.
The 156 figure was traced to a hoax website. Try and read this;
https://tinyurl.com/4nx5ptem

Post by Mighty Mouse
he was tested at Uni, or somewhere

Well perhaps you could start your search there? I mean "uni", not
"somewhere". And by "Uni" you probably, mean Fordham and/or Pennsylvania
universities.

alvey

[Keithr0]

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Anyone else watch it? at

Yep

Post by Mighty Mouse
the end of the day, as the saying goes, what the election will
come down to is whether or not Americans are happy with the way
things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for change.
ie. Trump

As the nation has already had Trump as Potus, and he is no
different now, then he's not really a "change".

well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a change
to a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.
The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump V2?
Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic process. Trump
aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

but the salient question is who is best for America?

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160,

That would put him on a level with Einstein and Hawkins, highly unlikely.

endorses
Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156.

Trump reckons that he's the most intelligent person in the world, but
has never released his IQ score. Probably for good reason.

Cackling

Kamala, who can't even do a press conference or interview, is said to
have an IQ around 120. think I'll take my advice from successful
intelligent people rather than dumb lefties.

The "Dumb leftie" will likely surround herself with intelligent advisers
rather than yes men.

http://youtu.be/aFiz5att4X8

[Mighty Mouse]

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Post by Clocky

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Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at

Yep

Post by Mighty Mouse
the end of the day, as the saying goes, what the election will
come down to is whether or not Americans are happy with the way
things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

As the nation has already had Trump as Potus, and he is no
different now, then he's not really a "change".

well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a
change to a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.
The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump
V2? Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic process.
Trump aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

but the salient question is who is best for America?

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160,

That would put him on a level with Einstein and Hawkins, highly unlikely.

here's just one link .. https://www.cognidna.com/celebrity-iq-scores/

Post by Keithr0

endorses Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156.

Trump reckons that he's the most intelligent person in the world,

does he? well he's wrong. that would be YoungHoon Kim, IQ 276.

Post by Keithr0
but has never released his IQ score. Probably for good reason.

I thought I read his IQ was 156. maybe I'm wrong

Post by Keithr0

Cackling Kamala, who can't even do a press conference or interview,
is said to have an IQ around 120. think I'll take my advice from
successful intelligent people rather than dumb lefties.

The "Dumb leftie" will likely surround herself with intelligent
advisers rather than yes men.

but she will push her leftie agenda regardless

Post by Keithr0

http://youtu.be/aFiz5att4X8

[Keithr0]

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Post by Keithr0

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Post by Clocky

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Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at

Yep

Post by Mighty Mouse
the end of the day, as the saying goes, what the election will
come down to is whether or not Americans are happy with the way
things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

As the nation has already had Trump as Potus, and he is no
different now, then he's not really a "change".

well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a
change to a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.
The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump
V2? Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic process.
Trump aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

but the salient question is who is best for America?

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160,

That would put him on a level with Einstein and Hawkins, highly unlikely.

here's just one link .. https://www.cognidna.com/celebrity-iq-scores/

Post by Keithr0

endorses Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156.

Trump reckons that he's the most intelligent person in the world,

does he? well he's wrong. that would be YoungHoon Kim, IQ 276.

Post by Keithr0
but has never released his IQ score. Probably for good reason.

I thought I read his IQ was 156. maybe I'm wrong

Post by Keithr0

Cackling Kamala, who can't even do a press conference or interview,
is said to have an IQ around 120. think I'll take my advice from
successful intelligent people rather than dumb lefties.

The "Dumb leftie" will likely surround herself with intelligent
advisers rather than yes men.

but she will push her leftie agenda regardless

And Trump would push his extreme right wing one. The thing is the
Americans will have only themselves to blame if he gets in, but his
being president will be bad for Australia among many other countries,
and we have no say in the matter.

[Mighty Mouse]

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Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at

Yep

Post by Mighty Mouse
the end of the day, as the saying goes, what the election will
come down to is whether or not Americans are happy with the
way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

As the nation has already had Trump as Potus, and he is no
different now, then he's not really a "change".

well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a
change to a Republican government

Still the same ol' same ol'.
The Dems have their own issues but could they be worse than Trump
V2? Well, no, at least the Democrats do respect democratic
process. Trump aspires to be the next Pootin ffs.

but the salient question is who is best for America?

Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with an IQ of 160,

That would put him on a level with Einstein and Hawkins, highly unlikely.

here's just one link .. https://www.cognidna.com/celebrity-iq-scores/

Post by Keithr0

endorses Trump. Trump has and IQ about the same, reported to be 156.

Trump reckons that he's the most intelligent person in the world,

does he? well he's wrong. that would be YoungHoon Kim, IQ 276.

Post by Keithr0
but has never released his IQ score. Probably for good reason.

I thought I read his IQ was 156. maybe I'm wrong

Post by Keithr0

Cackling Kamala, who can't even do a press conference or interview,
is said to have an IQ around 120. think I'll take my advice from
successful intelligent people rather than dumb lefties.

The "Dumb leftie" will likely surround herself with intelligent
advisers rather than yes men.

but she will push her leftie agenda regardless

And Trump would push his extreme right wing one. The thing is the
Americans will have only themselves to blame if he gets in, but his
being president will be bad for Australia among many other countries,

why?

Post by Keithr0
and we have no say in the matter.

[Rod Speed]

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Post by alvey

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Anyone else watch it?

Yep

Post by Mighty Mouse
at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what the election will
come down to is whether or not Americans are happy with the way things
are for them now or not. if not they will vote for change. ie. Trump

As the nation has already had Trump as Potus, and he is no different
now, then he's not really a "change".

Correct

Post by Mighty Mouse
well he is because the Dems are in power now, so it will be a change to
a Republican government

No president is the govt, the congress decides policy.

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
Anyhoo, in the post-debate, the US media has given a stunning
demonstration of how incredibly biased it is.

certainly are

Post by alvey
Harris smashed Trump all around the park, at times he looked and
sounded like an elderly, punch-drunk boxer, yet a significant amount of
mainstream, and absolutely masses of memes had it the other way.
Incredible.

And the debate is irrelevant to who gets to be prez.

[alvey]

Post by Rod Speed
And the debate is irrelevant to who gets to be prez.

Nixon & Biden probably have a different opinion to that...

[Rod Speed]

Post by alvey

Post by Rod Speed
And the debate is irrelevant to who gets to be prez.

Nixon & Biden probably have a different opinion to that...

Biden never won any debate so his opinion is irrelevant.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it?

Nope, that isnt what determines and election result.

Post by Mighty Mouse
at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what the election will come
down to is whether or not Americans are happy with the way things are
for them now or not.

Its much more complicated than that.

Post by Mighty Mouse
if not they will vote for change. ie. Trump

Doesnt explain the previous election result.

[Trevor Wilson]

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

**My view:

Although it was highly flawed, it is clear that Harris 'won' the debate.
She baited Trump brilliantly and he veered into nonsensical conspiracy
theories and crowd sizes. Well done Harris.

That said, both Harris and Trump were allowed to avoid directly
answering questions, which I found most annoying. Trump, for instance,
refused to say how he would end the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Lastly and most importantly, Trump loyalists will probably destroy
Democracy in the US this year. Harris is bound to gain the most popular
votes, but the Electoral College determines the winner. And it is the
Electoral College that is being corrupted from within. I think that a
Trump victory is extremely likely.

It is important to remember that Democratic candidates have gained the
most votes for every US election this century. Nonetheless, we have seen
various Republican candidates declared the winner.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Trevor Wilson

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

Although it was highly flawed, it is clear that Harris 'won' the debate.
She baited Trump brilliantly and he veered into nonsensical conspiracy
theories and crowd sizes. Well done Harris.

But won't have any effect on the election result
given that fuck all bothered to watch it.

Post by Trevor Wilson
That said, both Harris and Trump were allowed to avoid directly
answering questions, which I found most annoying. Trump, for instance,
refused to say how he would end the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

No way to force them to answer a specific question.

Post by Trevor Wilson
Lastly and most importantly, Trump loyalists willprobably destroy
Democracy in the US this year.

Not even possible to do that.

Even if his goons had succeeded in literally killing
all the congress critters when they stormed the
Capitol, they would all have been replaced and
the goons would all be in jail, along with Trump
and democracy would carry on regardless.

Post by Trevor Wilson
Harris is bound to gain the most popular votes,

We'll see...

Post by Trevor Wilson
but the Electoral College determines the winner. And it isthe Electoral
College that is being corrupted from within.

Bullshit.

Post by Trevor Wilson
I think that a Trump victory is extremely likely.

More fool you.

Post by Trevor Wilson
It is important to remember that Democratic candidates have gained the
most votes for every US election this century. Nonetheless, we have seen
various Republican candidates declared the winner.

Because the one that gets the most popular votes
isnt what determines who gets to be Prez, stupid.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Trevor Wilson

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote
for change. ie. Trump

Although it was highly flawed, it is clear that Harris 'won' the
debate. She baited Trump brilliantly and he veered into nonsensical
conspiracy theories and crowd sizes. Well done Harris.
That said, both Harris and Trump were allowed to avoid directly
answering questions, which I found most annoying.

yes, me too

Post by Trevor Wilson
Trump, for instance, refused to say how he would end the Russian
invasion of Ukraine.

and Harris never said how she would do things she promised

Post by Trevor Wilson
Lastly and most importantly, Trump loyalists will probably destroy
Democracy in the US this year. Harris is bound to gain the most
popular votes, but the Electoral College determines the winner. And it
is the Electoral College that is being corrupted from within. I think
that a Trump victory is extremely likely.

the pundits are saying it's too close to call

Post by Trevor Wilson
It is important to remember that Democratic candidates have gained the
most votes for every US election this century. Nonetheless, we have
seen various Republican candidates declared the winner.

[Rod Speed]

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 13:49:10 +1000, Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Trevor Wilson

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes, what
the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are happy
with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will vote for
change. ie. Trump

Although it was highly flawed, it is clear that Harris 'won' the
debate. She baited Trump brilliantly and he veered into nonsensical
conspiracy theories and crowd sizes. Well done Harris.
That said, both Harris and Trump were allowed to avoid directly
answering questions, which I found most annoying.

yes, me too

Post by Trevor Wilson
Trump, for instance, refused to say how he would end the Russian
invasion of Ukraine.

and Harris never said how she would do things she promised

And no Prez ever gets do decide that stuff, Congress does.

That's why Obama never got anything even remotely
like the health care system he wanted to have.

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Trevor Wilson
Lastly and most importantly, Trump loyalists will probably destroy
Democracy in the US this year. Harris is bound to gain the most popular
votes, but the Electoral College determines the winner. And it is the
Electoral College that is being corrupted from within. I think that a
Trump victory is extremely likely.

the pundits are saying it's too close to call

And they got the original election that Trump won wrong.

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Trevor Wilson
It is important to remember that Democratic candidates have gained the
most votes for every US election this century. Nonetheless, we have
seen various Republican candidates declared the winner.

[Keithr0]

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 13:49:10 +1000, Mighty Mouse <squeak!

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Trevor Wilson

Post by Mighty Mouse
Anyone else watch it? at the end of the day, as the saying goes,
what the election will come down to is whether or not Americans are
happy with the way things are for them now or not. if not they will
vote for change. ie. Trump

Although it was highly flawed, it is clear that Harris 'won' the
debate. She baited Trump brilliantly and he veered into nonsensical
conspiracy theories and crowd sizes. Well done Harris.
That said, both Harris and Trump were allowed to avoid directly
answering questions, which I found most annoying.

yes, me too

Post by Trevor Wilson
Trump, for instance, refused to say how he would end the Russian
invasion of Ukraine.

and Harris never said how she would do things she promised

And no Prez ever gets do decide that stuff, Congress does.
That's why Obama never got anything even remotely
like the health care system he wanted to have.

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Trevor Wilson
Lastly and most importantly, Trump loyalists will probably destroy
Democracy in the US this year. Harris is bound to gain the most
popular votes, but the Electoral College determines the winner. And
it is the Electoral College that is being corrupted from within. I
think that a Trump victory is extremely likely.

the pundits are saying it's too close to call

And they got the original election that Trump won wrong.

I think that won should be "Won", he only got in because of the weird
system that they use over there.

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Trevor Wilson
It is important to remember that Democratic candidates have gained
the most votes for every US election this century. Nonetheless, we
have seen various Republican candidates declared the winner.