Nissan in trouble

[Noddy]

Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months to
find another investor or they'll go to the wall.

Talk about actively encouraging new money :)

Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements from
the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over the
implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think of
their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.

Interesting times ahead.

*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)
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Regards,
Noddy.

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months to

Who could blame them, Nissan is a crap brand.

Post by Noddy
find another investor or they'll go to the wall.

The wall is the best place for them to go. It's very telling when
*both* Nissan Navara owners here didn't replace their current vehicles
with *new Navaras* but instead went Ford.

Post by Noddy
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)

A company encourages new money by having *investable products*. Nissan
hasn't had such a thing for *decades*.

Post by Noddy
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements from
the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over the
implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think of
their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.

That's bullshit. *Nissan* isn't even in the race as a member of large
car companies. Just look at Toyota's Aussie sales last year - 230,432
units of which only 15,192 units were the Lexus brand.

Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance sold just 110,911 units of which only
39,376 were Nissan branded. FFS, Mitsubishi sold more at 63,511 units.
No wonder the alliance want to get rid of Nissan, the crap vehicle
producing loss maker.

Post by Noddy
Interesting times ahead.

Without Nissan, much better times ahead.

Post by Noddy
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

Get rid of bullshit at one end, take in more at the other, no surprise
there.

[Xeno]

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months to

Who could blame them, Nissan is a crap brand.

Post by Noddy
find another investor or they'll go to the wall.

The wall is the best place for them to go.  It's very telling when
*both* Nissan Navara owners here didn't replace their current vehicles
with *new Navaras* but instead went Ford.

Post by Noddy
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)

A company encourages new money by having *investable products*. Nissan
hasn't had such a thing for *decades*.

Post by Noddy
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements from
the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over the
implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think of
their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.

That's bullshit. *Nissan* isn't even in the race as a member of large
car companies. Just look at Toyota's Aussie sales last year - 230,432
units of which only 15,192 units were the Lexus brand.
Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance sold just 110,911 units of which only
39,376 were Nissan branded. FFS, Mitsubishi sold more at 63,511 units.
No wonder the alliance want to get rid of Nissan, the crap vehicle
producing loss maker.

Post by Noddy
Interesting times ahead.

Without Nissan, much better times ahead.

Post by Noddy
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

Get rid of bullshit at one end, take in more at the other, no surprise
there.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/family-matters-how-big-toyota-motor-corporation-hyundai-motor-group-renault-nissan

Forgot to link my source.... ;-)

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months to

Who could blame them, Nissan is a crap brand.

Post by Noddy
find another investor or they'll go to the wall.

The wall is the best place for them to go.  It's very telling when
*both* Nissan Navara owners here didn't replace their current vehicles
with *new Navaras* but instead went Ford.

out of the frying pan into the fire then..

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)

A company encourages new money by having *investable products*. Nissan
hasn't had such a thing for *decades*.

Post by Noddy
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements
from the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over
the implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think
of their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.

That's bullshit. *Nissan* isn't even in the race as a member of large
car companies. Just look at Toyota's Aussie sales last year - 230,432
units of which only 15,192 units were the Lexus brand.
Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance sold just 110,911 units of which
only 39,376 were Nissan branded. FFS, Mitsubishi sold more at 63,511
units. No wonder the alliance want to get rid of Nissan, the crap
vehicle producing loss maker.

Post by Noddy
Interesting times ahead.

Without Nissan, much better times ahead.

Post by Noddy
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

Get rid of bullshit at one end, take in more at the other, no surprise
there.

LOL

[Daryl]

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months to
find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements from
the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over the
implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think of
their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.
Interesting times ahead.

I've heard much the same and they are blaming falling EV sales, people
are waking up to the failure that EV's are so they stopped buying them.

Post by Noddy
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

LOL.

[Noddy]

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months
to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements from
the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over the
implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think of
their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.
Interesting times ahead.

I've heard much the same and they are blaming falling EV sales, people
are waking up to the failure that EV's are so they stopped buying them.

That's part of it, certainly. But EV's only make up a small percentage
of their overall offerings. Their sales are slumping in general, and
there'd be a few reasons for that. Their range of vehicles is outdated
and lacking in features, and the company itself is run by a bunch of
numpties.

Remember, this is the company where a few years ago their CEO fled Japan
hiding in a piano crate rather than answer to charges that he had
misappropriated funds :)

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months
to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements
from the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over
the implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think
of their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.
Interesting times ahead.

I've heard much the same and they are blaming falling EV sales, people
are waking up to the failure that EV's are so they stopped buying them.

That's part of it, certainly. But EV's only make up a small percentage
of their overall offerings. Their sales are slumping in general, and
there'd be a few reasons for that. Their range of vehicles is outdated
and lacking in features, and the company itself is run by a bunch of
numpties.

You forgot one important detail - the Nissan product is shit and that's
why you didn't return to the brand after a *single experience*. See,
even *you* are capable of learning from experience - well done!

Post by Noddy
Remember, this is the company where a few years ago their CEO fled Japan
hiding in a piano crate rather than answer to charges that he had
misappropriated funds :)

[Keithr0]

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months to
find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements from
the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over the
implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think of
their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

[Noddy]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months
to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements from
the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over the
implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think of
their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

Sad. 20 years ago Honda would have wanted nothing to do with Nissan. Now
they're reaching out for anything to stop them going under themselves....

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months
to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements
from the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over
the implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think
of their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

Sad. 20 years ago Honda would have wanted nothing to do with Nissan. Now
they're reaching out for anything to stop them going under themselves....

All the while Toyota and Mazda just keep powering ahead!

[Keithr0]

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months
to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements
from the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over
the implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think
of their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

Sad. 20 years ago Honda would have wanted nothing to do with Nissan. Now
they're reaching out for anything to stop them going under themselves....

The car division but there is a lot more to Honda than that, they must
sell a shitpile of small bikes in Asia, and, last I heard, they are the
world's biggest supplier of small engines.

[Daryl]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months
to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements
from the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over
the implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think
of their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

Sad. 20 years ago Honda would have wanted nothing to do with Nissan.
Now they're reaching out for anything to stop them going under
themselves....

The car division but there is a lot more to Honda than that, they must
sell a shitpile of small bikes in Asia, and, last I heard, they are the
world's biggest supplier of small engines.

Honda sold 18.7 million motorcycles in the last "fiscal" year compared
to approx 4 million "automobiles" in the same period.
If they did merge maybe some of Hondas quality will rub off on Nissan.

[Xeno]

Post by Daryl

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Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12
months to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements
from the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over
the implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may
think of their products they are one of the world's largest car
companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

Sad. 20 years ago Honda would have wanted nothing to do with Nissan.
Now they're reaching out for anything to stop them going under
themselves....

The car division but there is a lot more to Honda than that, they must
sell a shitpile of small bikes in Asia, and, last I heard, they are
the world's biggest supplier of small engines.

Honda sold 18.7 million motorcycles in the last "fiscal" year compared
to approx 4 million "automobiles" in the same period.
If they did merge maybe some of Hondas quality will rub off on Nissan.

Impossible - think silk purses and sow's ears.

[Keithr0]

Post by Daryl

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12
months to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements
from the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over
the implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may
think of their products they are one of the world's largest car
companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

Sad. 20 years ago Honda would have wanted nothing to do with Nissan.
Now they're reaching out for anything to stop them going under
themselves....

The car division but there is a lot more to Honda than that, they must
sell a shitpile of small bikes in Asia, and, last I heard, they are
the world's biggest supplier of small engines.

Honda sold 18.7 million motorcycles in the last "fiscal" year compared
to approx 4 million "automobiles" in the same period.
If they did merge maybe some of Hondas quality will rub off on Nissan.

I saw a Honda ship in Hiroshima harbour, I assumed at first I assumed
that they were exporting cars, but, in fact, they were unloading Kei
cars presumably being built elsewhere in Asia.

Did you know that they make business jets too?

https://www.hondajet.com/

[Daryl]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Daryl

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Sad. 20 years ago Honda would have wanted nothing to do with Nissan.
Now they're reaching out for anything to stop them going under
themselves....

The car division but there is a lot more to Honda than that, they
must sell a shitpile of small bikes in Asia, and, last I heard, they
are the world's biggest supplier of small engines.

Honda sold 18.7 million motorcycles in the last "fiscal" year compared
to approx 4 million "automobiles" in the same period.
If they did merge maybe some of Hondas quality will rub off on Nissan.

I saw a Honda ship in Hiroshima harbour, I assumed at first I assumed
that they were exporting cars, but, in fact, they were unloading Kei
cars presumably being built elsewhere in Asia.

Surprised that Kei cars have never caught on in other parts of the world
other than Asia especially in old Euro cities where space is at a premium.
Smart cars were very popular in Rome about 10yrs ago, Kei cars are
similar but cheaper, maybe European and Westerners in general have grown
too fat over the years and don't fit into tiny cars.

Post by Keithr0
Did you know that they make business jets too?

Yes.

Post by Keithr0
https://www.hondajet.com/

Pretty good from what I've seen on line.

[Clocky]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months
to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements
from the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over
the implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think
of their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

Sad. 20 years ago Honda would have wanted nothing to do with Nissan.
Now they're reaching out for anything to stop them going under
themselves....

The car division but there is a lot more to Honda than that, they must
sell a shitpile of small bikes in Asia, and, last I heard, they are the
world's biggest supplier of small engines.

Which has no relevance to their ailing car division.

[Keithr0]

Post by Clocky

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12
months to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements
from the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over
the implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may
think of their products they are one of the world's largest car
companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

Sad. 20 years ago Honda would have wanted nothing to do with Nissan.
Now they're reaching out for anything to stop them going under
themselves....

The car division but there is a lot more to Honda than that, they must
sell a shitpile of small bikes in Asia, and, last I heard, they are
the world's biggest supplier of small engines.

Which has no relevance to their ailing car division.

ROTFL, you view everything though the prism of your own prejudices, you
obviously have no understanding of large conglomerates especially
Japanese ones.

[Clocky]

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Post by Clocky

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has
had enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12
months to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements
from the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over
the implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may
think of their products they are one of the world's largest car
companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

Sad. 20 years ago Honda would have wanted nothing to do with Nissan.
Now they're reaching out for anything to stop them going under
themselves....

The car division but there is a lot more to Honda than that, they
must sell a shitpile of small bikes in Asia, and, last I heard, they
are the world's biggest supplier of small engines.

Which has no relevance to their ailing car division.

ROTFL, you view everything though the prism of your own prejudices, you
obviously have no understanding of large conglomerates especially
Japanese ones.

What prejudice? Are you suggesting Honda operate differently to all the
other Japanese conglomerates?

Honda's car division is in trouble, sales have slumped and Honda is $70b
US in debt.

Those are facts Sliemey and facts don't care about your opinion you
irrelevant cockspank.

[Clocky]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months
to find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse. Whether that's true I can't tell you, but announcements from
the company themselves are not encouraging. If they fall over the
implications will be *massive*, as despite what people may think of
their products they are one of the world's largest car companies.
Interesting times ahead.
*BogNews is the stuff I read on my phone while taking my morning shit :)

I did read that there is a potential tie up between Honda and Nissan.

Honda itself is facing an uncertain future so they may as well shut up
shop now. Honda stopped innovating around the time Nissan put cost
cutting above reliability and now they are both fucked.

[Clocky]

Post by Noddy
Read an article on the BogNews* this morning that Nissan announced
overnight that they're facing financial difficulties. Apparently
Renault, who bought a large chunk of Nissan some years ago, has had
enough and wants out, and Nissan has stated that they have 12 months to
find another investor or they'll go to the wall.
Talk about actively encouraging new money :)
Many in media circles are claiming that Nissan is on the brink of
collapse.

I've stated as much months to years ago when you were in denial due
being ignorant of the facts that the industry you're not part of has
been well aware of for a long time.

Nissan haven't made a decent vehicle in a couple of decades and they
deserve exactly what they get.

If you keep building unreliable crap then eventually people will stop
buying it. Pretty simple.