Bloody tailgaters

[Sylvia Else]

I've identified two kinds of tailgater.

This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to get
out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so that
they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.

But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could easily
pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the accelerator
(no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that we're no longer
going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like as not, they'll
pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front who's going at the
same speed I was previously. It's hard to know what motivates such
behaviour.

Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?

Sylvia

[Daryl]

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to get
out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so that
they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could easily
pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the accelerator
(no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that we're no longer
going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like as not, they'll
pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front who's going at the
same speed I was previously. It's hard to know what motivates such
behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?

I think that the second type are mostly people who have such poor
eyesight that they shouldn't be driving, they can't see very far so they
stick close to another vehicle.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to
get out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so
that they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could
easily pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the
accelerator (no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that
we're no longer going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like
as not, they'll pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front
who's going at the same speed I was previously. It's hard to know what
motivates such behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?
Sylvia

delivery van drivers and truckies are the worst for tailgating. I don't
understand the mentality of any driver who wants to sit so close to the
car in front. just today I passed a five car nose to tail. it was a
serious one as the cops were there. then on the return journey I was
tailgated by some idiot in a mercedes van. I was tempted to stab the
brakes but he was so damn close he might have hit me.

[alvey]

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to get
out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so that
they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could easily
pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the accelerator
(no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that we're no longer
going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like as not, they'll
pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front who's going at the
same speed I was previously. It's hard to know what motivates such
behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?

The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they believe
that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact that it'll
take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than the car they're
tailgating never occurs to them.

And on tailgating... If you're not in the left most lane and someone is
sitting on your arse, get out of the way. If you don't, then all you're
achieving is raising blood pressures and the possibility of a crash.

hth


alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by alvey

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to
get out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so
that they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could
easily pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the
accelerator (no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that
we're no longer going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like
as not, they'll pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front
who's going at the same speed I was previously. It's hard to know
what motivates such behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?

The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they believe
that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact that it'll
take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than the car
they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

Post by alvey
And on tailgating... If you're not in the left most lane and someone
is sitting on your arse, get out of the way. If you don't, then all
you're achieving is raising blood pressures and the possibility of a
crash.
hth
alvey

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they believe
that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact that it'll
take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than the car
they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please. Provide the
findings of your studies.

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they believe
that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact that
it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than the
car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please. Provide the
findings of your studies.

Well Darren, *you* are living proof of that mentality and you have quite
publicly *verified it* on more than one occasion. As the saying goes;
big car, little dick. You're a walking talking insecurity complex!

[alvey]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they believe
that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact that
it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than the
car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please. Provide the
findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

[Xeno]

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they believe
that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact that
it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than the
car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please. Provide the
findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The level of
hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The
fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to
stop than the car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please. Provide
the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The level
of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

[Xeno]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The
fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to
stop than the car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please. Provide
the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The level
of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

I'd have said *pitiable*!

https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full-Report22

which prompted this article;

https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-is-everyone-buying-truckzillas-that-are-too-big-for-our-streets-20230511-p5d7iy.html

While driving recently, you may have noticed some huge vehicles
on the road. Perhaps you’ve seen an enormous, shiny SUV too wide
to fit in a turning lane, or maybe you’ve held your breath
overtaking a vehicle that feels more like a tank than a normal
car. This isn’t even hyperbole: the largest Toyota Hiluxes are
now around the same size as the Sherman tanks used during World
War II.
Over the past few decades cars have grown a lot bigger, but
with the introduction of the massive Dodge Ram and Ford F-150s,
weighing in at up to three tonnes, we might have reached the
absurd extreme. We know that everything is bigger in Texas, but
now these huge SUVs and – to import another term from the US –
“pickup trucks” are also hitting Australian streets in big
numbers. They’re hard to miss: you’ll find them struggling to
fit into car parks and overhanging into footpaths and bike lanes.
It turns out that they’re not just an oversized annoyance,
they’re also dangerous.
Car crashes are now the leading cause of death of Australian
children, and these monster trucks are their deadliest
incarnation.

and

The square shape and huge mass of these suburban tanks means
that when they are involved in an accident, it’s much more
likely to be a deadly one. In fact, one study found kids are
eight times more likely to die when hit by a SUV compared to a
normal passenger car.

and

So why have these vehicles become more popular in Australia?
For car manufacturers and dealers, the answer is easy: they
make a lot more money selling truckzillas, which can cost into
the six figures, than cheaper alternatives. Consumers have
therefore seen a decline in smaller, lighter options.

Pickup truck owners will often say their motivation is greater
towing and loading capacity, but the truth is some people just
like to feel big on the road. And the marketing reflects this,
describing these colossal vehicles as the “apex predator[s] of
the truck world”, that “eat everything else for breakfast”.
The evidence shows that these vehicles aren’t always safer, and
they’re more likely to be hauling a huge ego than a large load.

Of course we will always need larger vehicles like removalist
vans and tankers on our roads, but we have to ask ourselves:
should people really be doing the school run in an oversized
commercial truck?

These last two paragraphs have perfectly nailed Darren. For sure his ego
is *bloated*. Don't know why given the failure that his life has been
and the *insecurity* on show. But there he is, doing the daily school
run in his oversized commercial truck. No question mark needed at the
end of the usual *what’s he compensating for* trope. Everyone knows what
his truck is. It's a statement, a reflection on the size of his penis
and his desperate need to offset elsewhere. His lies and fake claims to
trade qualifications are compensation for his *career failures* and his
truck is a *physical* display of power to compensate for his visible and
non-visible deficiencies. This has now become acute since Darren is well
into middle-age, hence the recent move from a Navara purchased used into
a Ranger purchased new - all in direct contrast with his previously
espoused car buying fiscal principles. That Darren's method of
compensation is his large ute is patently obvious because he has no real
need for a *brand new large truck* that is, at best, a *compromise*. A
decent *trailer* would suffice for carting anything up to the size of
complete vehicles, and he wouldn't be paying exorbitant commercial
tollroad rates like he will be in the Ranger. The Ranger suspension
would be set up for load carrying and the school run provides only for a
loading of 1 kid, hardly sufficient to *debounce* that suspension. A
harsher ride 99% of the time for sure and all because an ego needs
swaddling. Hell, he has a *truck* at home that would carry at least as
much as his Ranger, if not more, and it's much more suited to commercial
needs.

I can do no better than end this on the summary to the above linked article;

Road safety affects all of us, and we need to make our streets
work for the most fragile bodies in our community, not the most
fragile egos.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The
fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to
stop than the car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please. Provide
the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The level
of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

I'd have said *pitiable*!
https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full-Report22
which prompted this article;
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-is-everyone-buying-truckzillas-that-are-too-big-for-our-streets-20230511-p5d7iy.html
   While driving recently, you may have noticed some huge vehicles
   on the road. Perhaps you’ve seen an enormous, shiny SUV too wide
   to fit in a turning lane, or maybe you’ve held your breath
   overtaking a vehicle that feels more like a tank than a normal
   car. This isn’t even hyperbole: the largest Toyota Hiluxes are
   now around the same size as the Sherman tanks used during World
   War II.
   Over the past few decades cars have grown a lot bigger, but
   with the introduction of the massive Dodge Ram and Ford F-150s,
   weighing in at up to three tonnes, we might have reached the
   absurd extreme. We know that everything is bigger in Texas, but
   now these huge SUVs and – to import another term from the US –
   “pickup trucks” are also hitting Australian streets in big
   numbers. They’re hard to miss: you’ll find them struggling to
   fit into car parks and overhanging into footpaths and bike lanes.
   It turns out that they’re not just an oversized annoyance,
   they’re also dangerous.
   Car crashes are now the leading cause of death of Australian
   children, and these monster trucks are their deadliest
   incarnation.
and
   The square shape and huge mass of these suburban tanks means
   that when they are involved in an accident, it’s much more
   likely to be a deadly one. In fact, one study found kids are
   eight times more likely to die when hit by a SUV compared to a
   normal passenger car.
and
   So why have these vehicles become more popular in Australia?
   For car manufacturers and dealers, the answer is easy: they
   make a lot more money selling truckzillas, which can cost into
   the six figures, than cheaper alternatives. Consumers have
   therefore seen a decline in smaller, lighter options.
   Pickup truck owners will often say their motivation is greater
   towing and loading capacity, but the truth is some people just
   like to feel big on the road. And the marketing reflects this,
   describing these colossal vehicles as the “apex predator[s] of
   the truck world”, that “eat everything else for breakfast”.
   The evidence shows that these vehicles aren’t always safer, and
   they’re more likely to be hauling a huge ego than a large load.
   Of course we will always need larger vehicles like removalist
   should people really be doing the school run in an oversized
   commercial truck?
These last two paragraphs have perfectly nailed Darren. For sure his
ego is *bloated*. Don't know why given the failure that his life has
been and the *insecurity* on show. But there he is, doing the daily
school run in his oversized commercial truck. No question mark needed
at the end of the usual *what’s he compensating for* trope. Everyone
knows what his truck is. It's a statement, a reflection on the size of
his penis and his desperate need to offset elsewhere. His lies and
fake claims to trade qualifications are compensation for his *career
failures* and his truck is a *physical* display of power to compensate
for his visible and non-visible deficiencies. This has now become
acute since Darren is well into middle-age, hence the recent move from
a Navara purchased used into a Ranger purchased new - all in direct
contrast with his previously espoused car buying fiscal principles.
That Darren's method of compensation is his large ute is patently
obvious because he has no real need for a *brand new large truck* that
is, at best, a *compromise*. A decent *trailer* would suffice for
carting anything up to the size of complete vehicles, and he wouldn't
be paying exorbitant commercial tollroad rates like he will be in the
Ranger. The Ranger suspension would be set up for load carrying and
the school run provides only for a loading of 1 kid, hardly sufficient
to *debounce* that suspension. A harsher ride 99% of the time for sure
and all because an ego needs swaddling. Hell, he has a *truck* at home
that would carry at least as much as his Ranger, if not more, and it's
much more suited to commercial needs.
I can do no better than end this on the summary to the above linked article;
   Road safety affects all of us, and we need to make our streets
   work for the most fragile bodies in our community, not the most
   fragile egos.

anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to have
'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

[Daryl Walford]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The
fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to
stop than the car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please. Provide
the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The level
of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

I'd have said *pitiable*!
https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full-
Report22
which prompted this article;
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-is-everyone-buying-truckzillas-
that-are-too-big-for-our-streets-20230511-p5d7iy.html
   While driving recently, you may have noticed some huge vehicles
   on the road. Perhaps you’ve seen an enormous, shiny SUV too wide
   to fit in a turning lane, or maybe you’ve held your breath
   overtaking a vehicle that feels more like a tank than a normal
   car. This isn’t even hyperbole: the largest Toyota Hiluxes are
   now around the same size as the Sherman tanks used during World
   War II.
   Over the past few decades cars have grown a lot bigger, but
   with the introduction of the massive Dodge Ram and Ford F-150s,
   weighing in at up to three tonnes, we might have reached the
   absurd extreme. We know that everything is bigger in Texas, but
   now these huge SUVs and – to import another term from the US –
   “pickup trucks” are also hitting Australian streets in big
   numbers. They’re hard to miss: you’ll find them struggling to
   fit into car parks and overhanging into footpaths and bike lanes.
   It turns out that they’re not just an oversized annoyance,
   they’re also dangerous.
   Car crashes are now the leading cause of death of Australian
   children, and these monster trucks are their deadliest
   incarnation.
and
   The square shape and huge mass of these suburban tanks means
   that when they are involved in an accident, it’s much more
   likely to be a deadly one. In fact, one study found kids are
   eight times more likely to die when hit by a SUV compared to a
   normal passenger car.
and
   So why have these vehicles become more popular in Australia?
   For car manufacturers and dealers, the answer is easy: they
   make a lot more money selling truckzillas, which can cost into
   the six figures, than cheaper alternatives. Consumers have
   therefore seen a decline in smaller, lighter options.
   Pickup truck owners will often say their motivation is greater
   towing and loading capacity, but the truth is some people just
   like to feel big on the road. And the marketing reflects this,
   describing these colossal vehicles as the “apex predator[s] of
   the truck world”, that “eat everything else for breakfast”.
   The evidence shows that these vehicles aren’t always safer, and
   they’re more likely to be hauling a huge ego than a large load.
   Of course we will always need larger vehicles like removalist
   should people really be doing the school run in an oversized
   commercial truck?
These last two paragraphs have perfectly nailed Darren. For sure his
ego is *bloated*. Don't know why given the failure that his life has
been and the *insecurity* on show. But there he is, doing the daily
school run in his oversized commercial truck. No question mark needed
at the end of the usual *what’s he compensating for* trope. Everyone
knows what his truck is. It's a statement, a reflection on the size of
his penis and his desperate need to offset elsewhere. His lies and
fake claims to trade qualifications are compensation for his *career
failures* and his truck is a *physical* display of power to compensate
for his visible and non-visible deficiencies. This has now become
acute since Darren is well into middle-age, hence the recent move from
a Navara purchased used into a Ranger purchased new - all in direct
contrast with his previously espoused car buying fiscal principles.
That Darren's method of compensation is his large ute is patently
obvious because he has no real need for a *brand new large truck* that
is, at best, a *compromise*. A decent *trailer* would suffice for
carting anything up to the size of complete vehicles, and he wouldn't
be paying exorbitant commercial tollroad rates like he will be in the
Ranger. The Ranger suspension would be set up for load carrying and
the school run provides only for a loading of 1 kid, hardly sufficient
to *debounce* that suspension. A harsher ride 99% of the time for sure
and all because an ego needs swaddling. Hell, he has a *truck* at home
that would carry at least as much as his Ranger, if not more, and it's
much more suited to commercial needs.
I can do no better than end this on the summary to the above linked article;
   Road safety affects all of us, and we need to make our streets
   work for the most fragile bodies in our community, not the most
   fragile egos.

anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to have
'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

Why?
They have specific applications where they excel such as heavy towing,
most smaller tow vehicles including Toyota Landcruiser have a max tow
rating of 3500kg, the F150 can tow 4500kg.
Many of large off road caravans can easily exceed the tow capacity of
3500kg rated vehicles so people who own large caravans need vehicles
with the higher tow rating.
2 of my friends have large caravans, one tows with a 70 series
Landcruiser, the other tows with a Mazda BT50, both are very close to
their max weight so they need to be careful with how much they weigh
overall, for example if they completely fill their caravan water tanks
they could be overweight.
No problem if the tow vehicle is an F150 or other US made utes with
4500kg towing capacity.
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are expensive
to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of vehicles for general
day to day use.
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise what
he sold.

[Mighty Mouse]

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Post by Xeno

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Post by Xeno

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Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The
fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to
stop than the car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please.
Provide the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The
level of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

I'd have said *pitiable*!
https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full-
Report22
which prompted this article;
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-is-everyone-buying-truckzillas-
that-are-too-big-for-our-streets-20230511-p5d7iy.html
   While driving recently, you may have noticed some huge vehicles
   on the road. Perhaps you’ve seen an enormous, shiny SUV too wide
   to fit in a turning lane, or maybe you’ve held your breath
   overtaking a vehicle that feels more like a tank than a normal
   car. This isn’t even hyperbole: the largest Toyota Hiluxes are
   now around the same size as the Sherman tanks used during World
   War II.
   Over the past few decades cars have grown a lot bigger, but
   with the introduction of the massive Dodge Ram and Ford F-150s,
   weighing in at up to three tonnes, we might have reached the
   absurd extreme. We know that everything is bigger in Texas, but
   now these huge SUVs and – to import another term from the US –
   “pickup trucks” are also hitting Australian streets in big
   numbers. They’re hard to miss: you’ll find them struggling to
   fit into car parks and overhanging into footpaths and bike lanes.
   It turns out that they’re not just an oversized annoyance,
   they’re also dangerous.
   Car crashes are now the leading cause of death of Australian
   children, and these monster trucks are their deadliest
   incarnation.
and
   The square shape and huge mass of these suburban tanks means
   that when they are involved in an accident, it’s much more
   likely to be a deadly one. In fact, one study found kids are
   eight times more likely to die when hit by a SUV compared to a
   normal passenger car.
and
   So why have these vehicles become more popular in Australia?
   For car manufacturers and dealers, the answer is easy: they
   make a lot more money selling truckzillas, which can cost into
   the six figures, than cheaper alternatives. Consumers have
   therefore seen a decline in smaller, lighter options.
   Pickup truck owners will often say their motivation is greater
   towing and loading capacity, but the truth is some people just
   like to feel big on the road. And the marketing reflects this,
   describing these colossal vehicles as the “apex predator[s] of
   the truck world”, that “eat everything else for breakfast”.
   The evidence shows that these vehicles aren’t always safer, and
   they’re more likely to be hauling a huge ego than a large load.
   Of course we will always need larger vehicles like removalist
   should people really be doing the school run in an oversized
   commercial truck?
These last two paragraphs have perfectly nailed Darren. For sure his
ego is *bloated*. Don't know why given the failure that his life has
been and the *insecurity* on show. But there he is, doing the daily
school run in his oversized commercial truck. No question mark
needed at the end of the usual *what’s he compensating for* trope.
Everyone knows what his truck is. It's a statement, a reflection on
the size of his penis and his desperate need to offset elsewhere.
His lies and fake claims to trade qualifications are compensation
for his *career failures* and his truck is a *physical* display of
power to compensate for his visible and non-visible deficiencies.
This has now become acute since Darren is well into middle-age,
hence the recent move from a Navara purchased used into a Ranger
purchased new - all in direct contrast with his previously espoused
car buying fiscal principles. That Darren's method of compensation
is his large ute is patently obvious because he has no real need for
a *brand new large truck* that is, at best, a *compromise*. A decent
*trailer* would suffice for carting anything up to the size of
complete vehicles, and he wouldn't be paying exorbitant commercial
tollroad rates like he will be in the Ranger. The Ranger suspension
would be set up for load carrying and the school run provides only
for a loading of 1 kid, hardly sufficient to *debounce* that
suspension. A harsher ride 99% of the time for sure and all because
an ego needs swaddling. Hell, he has a *truck* at home that would
carry at least as much as his Ranger, if not more, and it's much
more suited to commercial needs.
I can do no better than end this on the summary to the above linked article;
   Road safety affects all of us, and we need to make our streets
   work for the most fragile bodies in our community, not the most
   fragile egos.

anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to have
'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

Why?
They have specific applications where they excel such as heavy towing,
most smaller tow vehicles including Toyota Landcruiser have a max tow
rating of 3500kg, the F150 can tow 4500kg.
Many of large off road caravans can easily exceed the tow capacity of
3500kg rated vehicles so people who own large caravans need vehicles
with the higher tow rating.
2 of my friends have large caravans, one tows with a 70 series
Landcruiser, the other tows with a Mazda BT50, both are very close to
their max weight so they need to be careful with how much they weigh
overall, for example if they completely fill their caravan water tanks
they could be overweight.
No problem if the tow vehicle is an F150 or other US made utes with
4500kg towing capacity.
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are
expensive to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of vehicles
for general day to day use.
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise
what he sold.

fair enough then. but they are a problem on suburban streets. in narrow
inner suburban streets they could block the whole road with a couple of
them parked on either side. and councils and vic roads need to make
parking bays larger to accommodate large SUV's and monster trucks

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Daryl Walford
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are
expensive to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of vehicles
for general day to day use.
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise
what he sold.

fair enough then. but they are a problem on suburban streets.

Really? How?

Post by Mighty Mouse
in narrow inner suburban streets they could block the whole road

with a couple of

Post by Mighty Mouse
them parked on either side.

How many occasions have you come across something like that?

Post by Mighty Mouse
and councils and vic roads need to make
parking bays larger to accommodate large SUV's and monster trucks

So write to your council or state member and complain if it bothers you.
If it doesn't, then why are you whinging?

[Daryl]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Daryl Walford
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are
expensive to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of vehicles
for general day to day use.
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise
what he sold.

fair enough then. but they are a problem on suburban streets.

Really? How?
 > in narrow inner suburban streets they could block the whole road
with a couple of

Post by Mighty Mouse
them parked on either side.

How many occasions have you come across something like that?
 > and councils and vic roads need to make

Post by Mighty Mouse
parking bays larger to accommodate large SUV's and monster trucks

So write to your council or state member and complain if it bothers you.
If it doesn't, then why are you whinging?

Cars in general are getting bigger and bigger so its no great surprise
that utes are also getting bigger.
A Corolla/Mazda3/Hyundai I30 used to be small cars, they are far from
small anymore, when the Corolla grew too big Toyota made the Yaris but
that is now bigger than earlier Corollas.
If people want someone to complain about then they should be complaining
to/about the car manufacturers.
Larger cars are also a product of newer safety rules and crash testing
so Govt's are also partly to blame.

[Clocky]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Daryl Walford

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The
fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to
stop than the car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please.
Provide the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The
level of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

I'd have said *pitiable*!
https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full- Report22
which prompted this article;
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-is-everyone-buying-truckzillas-
that-are-too-big-for-our-streets-20230511-p5d7iy.html
   While driving recently, you may have noticed some huge vehicles
   on the road. Perhaps you’ve seen an enormous, shiny SUV too wide
   to fit in a turning lane, or maybe you’ve held your breath
   overtaking a vehicle that feels more like a tank than a normal
   car. This isn’t even hyperbole: the largest Toyota Hiluxes are
   now around the same size as the Sherman tanks used during World
   War II.
   Over the past few decades cars have grown a lot bigger, but
   with the introduction of the massive Dodge Ram and Ford F-150s,
   weighing in at up to three tonnes, we might have reached the
   absurd extreme. We know that everything is bigger in Texas, but
   now these huge SUVs and – to import another term from the US –
   “pickup trucks” are also hitting Australian streets in big
   numbers. They’re hard to miss: you’ll find them struggling to
   fit into car parks and overhanging into footpaths and bike lanes.
   It turns out that they’re not just an oversized annoyance,
   they’re also dangerous.
   Car crashes are now the leading cause of death of Australian
   children, and these monster trucks are their deadliest
   incarnation.
and
   The square shape and huge mass of these suburban tanks means
   that when they are involved in an accident, it’s much more
   likely to be a deadly one. In fact, one study found kids are
   eight times more likely to die when hit by a SUV compared to a
   normal passenger car.
and
   So why have these vehicles become more popular in Australia?
   For car manufacturers and dealers, the answer is easy: they
   make a lot more money selling truckzillas, which can cost into
   the six figures, than cheaper alternatives. Consumers have
   therefore seen a decline in smaller, lighter options.
   Pickup truck owners will often say their motivation is greater
   towing and loading capacity, but the truth is some people just
   like to feel big on the road. And the marketing reflects this,
   describing these colossal vehicles as the “apex predator[s] of
   the truck world”, that “eat everything else for breakfast”.
   The evidence shows that these vehicles aren’t always safer, and
   they’re more likely to be hauling a huge ego than a large load.
   Of course we will always need larger vehicles like removalist
   should people really be doing the school run in an oversized
   commercial truck?
These last two paragraphs have perfectly nailed Darren. For sure his
ego is *bloated*. Don't know why given the failure that his life has
been and the *insecurity* on show. But there he is, doing the daily
school run in his oversized commercial truck. No question mark
needed at the end of the usual *what’s he compensating for* trope.
Everyone knows what his truck is. It's a statement, a reflection on
the size of his penis and his desperate need to offset elsewhere.
His lies and fake claims to trade qualifications are compensation
for his *career failures* and his truck is a *physical* display of
power to compensate for his visible and non-visible deficiencies.
This has now become acute since Darren is well into middle-age,
hence the recent move from a Navara purchased used into a Ranger
purchased new - all in direct contrast with his previously espoused
car buying fiscal principles. That Darren's method of compensation
is his large ute is patently obvious because he has no real need for
a *brand new large truck* that is, at best, a *compromise*. A decent
*trailer* would suffice for carting anything up to the size of
complete vehicles, and he wouldn't be paying exorbitant commercial
tollroad rates like he will be in the Ranger. The Ranger suspension
would be set up for load carrying and the school run provides only
for a loading of 1 kid, hardly sufficient to *debounce* that
suspension. A harsher ride 99% of the time for sure and all because
an ego needs swaddling. Hell, he has a *truck* at home that would
carry at least as much as his Ranger, if not more, and it's much
more suited to commercial needs.
I can do no better than end this on the summary to the above linked article;
   Road safety affects all of us, and we need to make our streets
   work for the most fragile bodies in our community, not the most
   fragile egos.

anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to have
'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

Why?
They have specific applications where they excel such as heavy towing,
most smaller tow vehicles including Toyota Landcruiser have a max tow
rating of 3500kg, the F150 can tow 4500kg.
Many of large off road caravans can easily exceed the tow capacity of
3500kg rated vehicles so people who own large caravans need vehicles
with the higher tow rating.
2 of my friends have large caravans, one tows with a 70 series
Landcruiser, the other tows with a Mazda BT50, both are very close to
their max weight so they need to be careful with how much they weigh
overall, for example if they completely fill their caravan water tanks
they could be overweight.
No problem if the tow vehicle is an F150 or other US made utes with
4500kg towing capacity.
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are
expensive to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of vehicles
for general day to day use.
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise
what he sold.

fair enough then. but they are a problem on suburban streets.

They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.

in narrow

Post by Mighty Mouse
inner suburban streets they could block the whole road with a couple of
them parked on either side. and councils and vic roads need to make
parking bays larger to accommodate large SUV's and monster trucks

Even better just ban the fucking things out of suburban areas.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Daryl Walford

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe.
The fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more
metres to stop than the car they're tailgating never occurs
to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please.
Provide the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The
level of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

I'd have said *pitiable*!
https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full- Report22
which prompted this article;
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-is-everyone-buying-truckzillas-
that-are-too-big-for-our-streets-20230511-p5d7iy.html
   While driving recently, you may have noticed some huge vehicles
   on the road. Perhaps you’ve seen an enormous, shiny SUV too wide
   to fit in a turning lane, or maybe you’ve held your breath
   overtaking a vehicle that feels more like a tank than a normal
   car. This isn’t even hyperbole: the largest Toyota Hiluxes are
   now around the same size as the Sherman tanks used during World
   War II.
   Over the past few decades cars have grown a lot bigger, but
   with the introduction of the massive Dodge Ram and Ford F-150s,
   weighing in at up to three tonnes, we might have reached the
   absurd extreme. We know that everything is bigger in Texas, but
   now these huge SUVs and – to import another term from the US –
   “pickup trucks” are also hitting Australian streets in big
   numbers. They’re hard to miss: you’ll find them struggling to
   fit into car parks and overhanging into footpaths and bike lanes.
   It turns out that they’re not just an oversized annoyance,
   they’re also dangerous.
   Car crashes are now the leading cause of death of Australian
   children, and these monster trucks are their deadliest
   incarnation.
and
   The square shape and huge mass of these suburban tanks means
   that when they are involved in an accident, it’s much more
   likely to be a deadly one. In fact, one study found kids are
   eight times more likely to die when hit by a SUV compared to a
   normal passenger car.
and
   So why have these vehicles become more popular in Australia?
   For car manufacturers and dealers, the answer is easy: they
   make a lot more money selling truckzillas, which can cost into
   the six figures, than cheaper alternatives. Consumers have
   therefore seen a decline in smaller, lighter options.
   Pickup truck owners will often say their motivation is greater
   towing and loading capacity, but the truth is some people just
   like to feel big on the road. And the marketing reflects this,
   describing these colossal vehicles as the “apex predator[s] of
   the truck world”, that “eat everything else for breakfast”.
   The evidence shows that these vehicles aren’t always safer, and
   they’re more likely to be hauling a huge ego than a large load.
   Of course we will always need larger vehicles like removalist
   should people really be doing the school run in an oversized
   commercial truck?
These last two paragraphs have perfectly nailed Darren. For sure
his ego is *bloated*. Don't know why given the failure that his
life has been and the *insecurity* on show. But there he is, doing
the daily school run in his oversized commercial truck. No
question mark needed at the end of the usual *what’s he
compensating for* trope. Everyone knows what his truck is. It's a
statement, a reflection on the size of his penis and his desperate
need to offset elsewhere. His lies and fake claims to trade
qualifications are compensation for his *career failures* and his
truck is a *physical* display of power to compensate for his
visible and non-visible deficiencies. This has now become acute
since Darren is well into middle-age, hence the recent move from a
Navara purchased used into a Ranger purchased new - all in direct
contrast with his previously espoused car buying fiscal
principles. That Darren's method of compensation is his large ute
is patently obvious because he has no real need for a *brand new
large truck* that is, at best, a *compromise*. A decent *trailer*
would suffice for carting anything up to the size of complete
vehicles, and he wouldn't be paying exorbitant commercial tollroad
rates like he will be in the Ranger. The Ranger suspension would
be set up for load carrying and the school run provides only for a
loading of 1 kid, hardly sufficient to *debounce* that suspension.
A harsher ride 99% of the time for sure and all because an ego
needs swaddling. Hell, he has a *truck* at home that would carry
at least as much as his Ranger, if not more, and it's much more
suited to commercial needs.
I can do no better than end this on the summary to the above linked article;
   Road safety affects all of us, and we need to make our streets
   work for the most fragile bodies in our community, not the most
   fragile egos.

anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to have
'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

Why?
They have specific applications where they excel such as heavy
towing, most smaller tow vehicles including Toyota Landcruiser have
a max tow rating of 3500kg, the F150 can tow 4500kg.
Many of large off road caravans can easily exceed the tow capacity
of 3500kg rated vehicles so people who own large caravans need
vehicles with the higher tow rating.
2 of my friends have large caravans, one tows with a 70 series
Landcruiser, the other tows with a Mazda BT50, both are very close
to their max weight so they need to be careful with how much they
weigh overall, for example if they completely fill their caravan
water tanks they could be overweight.
No problem if the tow vehicle is an F150 or other US made utes with
4500kg towing capacity.
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are
expensive to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of
vehicles for general day to day use.
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise
what he sold.

fair enough then. but they are a problem on suburban streets.

They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.

i'm inclined to think so too. most are not needed.

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse
in narrow inner suburban streets they could block the whole road with
a couple of them parked on either side. and councils and vic roads
need to make parking bays larger to accommodate large SUV's and
monster trucks

Even better just ban the fucking things out of suburban areas.

friends live in Newport. the street is so narrow that even with ordinary
cars parked on both sides there is only enough room for cars to travel
one way. so if you're driving down the street and a car is approaching
from the opposite direction, one of you has has to find and empty
parking space to move into to let the other vehicle pass. those roads
were built at a time when most ppl rode bikes or motor bikes, and not
many ppl owned cars.

[Xeno]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Daryl Walford

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe.
The fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more
metres to stop than the car they're tailgating never occurs
to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please.
Provide the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The
level of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

I'd have said *pitiable*!
https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-
Full- Report22
which prompted this article;
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-is-everyone-buying-
truckzillas- that-are-too-big-for-our-streets-20230511-p5d7iy.html
   While driving recently, you may have noticed some huge vehicles
   on the road. Perhaps you’ve seen an enormous, shiny SUV too wide
   to fit in a turning lane, or maybe you’ve held your breath
   overtaking a vehicle that feels more like a tank than a normal
   car. This isn’t even hyperbole: the largest Toyota Hiluxes are
   now around the same size as the Sherman tanks used during World
   War II.
   Over the past few decades cars have grown a lot bigger, but
   with the introduction of the massive Dodge Ram and Ford F-150s,
   weighing in at up to three tonnes, we might have reached the
   absurd extreme. We know that everything is bigger in Texas, but
   now these huge SUVs and – to import another term from the US –
   “pickup trucks” are also hitting Australian streets in big
   numbers. They’re hard to miss: you’ll find them struggling to
   fit into car parks and overhanging into footpaths and bike lanes.
   It turns out that they’re not just an oversized annoyance,
   they’re also dangerous.
   Car crashes are now the leading cause of death of Australian
   children, and these monster trucks are their deadliest
   incarnation.
and
   The square shape and huge mass of these suburban tanks means
   that when they are involved in an accident, it’s much more
   likely to be a deadly one. In fact, one study found kids are
   eight times more likely to die when hit by a SUV compared to a
   normal passenger car.
and
   So why have these vehicles become more popular in Australia?
   For car manufacturers and dealers, the answer is easy: they
   make a lot more money selling truckzillas, which can cost into
   the six figures, than cheaper alternatives. Consumers have
   therefore seen a decline in smaller, lighter options.
   Pickup truck owners will often say their motivation is greater
   towing and loading capacity, but the truth is some people just
   like to feel big on the road. And the marketing reflects this,
   describing these colossal vehicles as the “apex predator[s] of
   the truck world”, that “eat everything else for breakfast”.
   The evidence shows that these vehicles aren’t always safer, and
   they’re more likely to be hauling a huge ego than a large load.
   Of course we will always need larger vehicles like removalist
   should people really be doing the school run in an oversized
   commercial truck?
These last two paragraphs have perfectly nailed Darren. For sure
his ego is *bloated*. Don't know why given the failure that his
life has been and the *insecurity* on show. But there he is, doing
the daily school run in his oversized commercial truck. No
question mark needed at the end of the usual *what’s he
compensating for* trope. Everyone knows what his truck is. It's a
statement, a reflection on the size of his penis and his desperate
need to offset elsewhere. His lies and fake claims to trade
qualifications are compensation for his *career failures* and his
truck is a *physical* display of power to compensate for his
visible and non-visible deficiencies. This has now become acute
since Darren is well into middle-age, hence the recent move from a
Navara purchased used into a Ranger purchased new - all in direct
contrast with his previously espoused car buying fiscal
principles. That Darren's method of compensation is his large ute
is patently obvious because he has no real need for a *brand new
large truck* that is, at best, a *compromise*. A decent *trailer*
would suffice for carting anything up to the size of complete
vehicles, and he wouldn't be paying exorbitant commercial tollroad
rates like he will be in the Ranger. The Ranger suspension would
be set up for load carrying and the school run provides only for a
loading of 1 kid, hardly sufficient to *debounce* that suspension.
A harsher ride 99% of the time for sure and all because an ego
needs swaddling. Hell, he has a *truck* at home that would carry
at least as much as his Ranger, if not more, and it's much more
suited to commercial needs.
I can do no better than end this on the summary to the above linked article;
   Road safety affects all of us, and we need to make our streets
   work for the most fragile bodies in our community, not the most
   fragile egos.

anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to have
'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

Why?
They have specific applications where they excel such as heavy
towing, most smaller tow vehicles including Toyota Landcruiser have
a max tow rating of 3500kg, the F150 can tow 4500kg.
Many of large off road caravans can easily exceed the tow capacity
of 3500kg rated vehicles so people who own large caravans need
vehicles with the higher tow rating.
2 of my friends have large caravans, one tows with a 70 series
Landcruiser, the other tows with a Mazda BT50, both are very close
to their max weight so they need to be careful with how much they
weigh overall, for example if they completely fill their caravan
water tanks they could be overweight.
No problem if the tow vehicle is an F150 or other US made utes with
4500kg towing capacity.
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are
expensive to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of
vehicles for general day to day use.
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise
what he sold.

fair enough then. but they are a problem on suburban streets.

They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.

i'm inclined to think so too. most are not needed.

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse
in narrow inner suburban streets they could block the whole road with
a couple of them parked on either side. and councils and vic roads
need to make parking bays larger to accommodate large SUV's and
monster trucks

Even better just ban the fucking things out of suburban areas.

friends live in Newport. the street is so narrow that even with ordinary
cars parked on both sides there is only enough room for cars to travel
one way. so if you're driving down the street and a car is approaching
from the opposite direction, one of you has has to find and empty
parking space to move into to let the other vehicle pass. those roads
were built at a time when most ppl rode bikes or motor bikes, and not
many ppl owned cars.

TBH, a lot of new housing estates are being built the same way. A friend
used to live in Harwood Place in Roxburgh Park, Vic. All the streets
there, except for the main thoroughfares, are decidedly narrow. Not
overly car friendly but not overly human friendly either.

I sometimes think these housing estate designers never go near their
creations once built. For sure, they never seem to learn.

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky
They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.

i'm inclined to think so too. most are not needed.

And exactly how would you know, Felix?

It's quite astonishing to see you comment about what *other* people do
and don't need, and the most bizarre part about it is that you genuinely
seem to think that you're right. The reality, as usual, is that you have
absolutely no idea, but are not prepared to let that minor detail stand
in the way of your ridiculous prejudice :)

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky
They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.

i'm inclined to think so too. most are not needed.

And exactly how would you know, Felix?
It's quite astonishing to see you comment about what *other* people do
and don't need, and the most bizarre part about it is that you genuinely
seem to think that you're right. The reality, as usual, is that you have
absolutely no idea, but are not prepared to let that minor detail stand
in the way of your ridiculous prejudice :)

You talk of *reality* as if you're fully aware of what reality is.
However, your delusions, you know the ones, serve to prove that you have
no grasp on reality whatsoever. In the two score and more years you have
been posting here, you've pumped out lie after inexorable lie, all in an
effort to try and convince people you aren't a loser. You've failed!

[Clocky]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky
They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.

i'm inclined to think so too. most are not needed.

And exactly how would you know, Felix?

Unlike you, he also has eyes that can see beyond his nose like most of us.

I've counted dozens of the things and have seen 3 towing something and
looking like they might have some legitimate use. The rest looked like
they had just been driven out of the showroom.

<snip white noise>

[Daryl]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky
They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.

i'm inclined to think so too. most are not needed.

And exactly how would you know, Felix?

He doesn't especially if he is talking about "full size" US pick ups
because they are currently less than one percent of the total vehicle
market.
Their sales are growing but even so they are few and far between.
Mate in Qld just bought a Dodge Ram, his 70 series Landcruiser is 10yrs
old so is due for replacement and nothing else on the market can tow his
3 tonne caravan as well a big US pick up.
I know lots and lots of people who own various utes, they are either
tradies that cart around lots of tools or people who tow big vans or
boats, they may also get used for general getting around but rarely is
that what they were bought for.

[Noddy]

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky
They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.

i'm inclined to think so too. most are not needed.

And exactly how would you know, Felix?

He doesn't especially if he is talking about "full size" US pick ups
because they are currently less than one percent of the total vehicle
market.

He has no idea. He does, however, have a ridiculous bias which he tries
to justify with his "observations", but all he manages to do is make
himself look like an idiot. He has no more of an idea of what anyone
else does with their vehicle than anyone else does about how he uses his
own.

Still, I find this "danger to other road users" rhetoric of his to be
amusing. This is the pig of a man who once bragged about driving around
someone who had an accident right in front of him and laughing about it
as he did so.

Post by Daryl
Their sales are growing but even so they are few and far between.

I don't see many myself, but then I don't really take any notice. What
other people drive is their business.

Post by Daryl
Mate in Qld just bought a Dodge Ram, his 70 series Landcruiser is 10yrs
old so is due for replacement and nothing else on the market can tow his
3 tonne caravan as well a big US pick up.
I know lots and lots of people who own various utes, they are either
tradies that cart around lots of tools or people who tow big vans or
boats, they may also get used for general getting around but rarely is
that what they were bought for.

What other people do with their cars is up to them, and the *only*
justification anyone needs for buying what they choose to own is because
they *want* to. It's no one else's business any more than it is the
colour of their shirt or shoes, and anyone who thinks they should have a
say in what *other* people choose to own is a fucking muppet.

It's that simple.

[alvey]

Noddy wrote:

snip drivel

Post by Noddy
What other people do with their cars is up to them, and the *only*
justification anyone needs for buying what they choose to own is because
they *want* to. It's no one else's business any more than it is the
colour of their shirt or shoes, and anyone who thinks they should have a
say in what *other* people choose to own is a fucking muppet.

Would have thought that the guvmnt had a pretty big say, but you'd know
better...

Post by Noddy
It's that simple.

Indeed you are.

[Xeno]

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky
They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.

i'm inclined to think so too. most are not needed.

And exactly how would you know, Felix?

He doesn't especially if he is talking about "full size" US pick ups
because they are currently less than one percent of the total vehicle
market.
Their sales are growing but even so they are few and far between.

And that is precisely the point! Damn, another whoosh moment for you!

You live on an isolated mesa, no surprise you don't see them. Up here we
see them all the time. Took a photo of one in a *standard size* parking
bay in the main street. Took up the entire bay!

Post by Daryl
Mate in Qld just bought a Dodge Ram, his 70 series Landcruiser is 10yrs
old so is due for replacement and nothing else on the market can tow his
3 tonne caravan as well a big US pick up.

See plenty of caravans passing through here with 3 tonne caravans
attached - all the time. After all, this is camper country! See lots of
Toyota Landcruisers, Jeeps, even Nissan Navaras. They all seem to tow
those caravans Ok. My neighbour Ken tows his van all over.

Post by Daryl
I know lots and lots of people who own various utes, they are either
tradies that cart around lots of tools or people who tow big vans or
boats, they may also get used for general getting around but rarely is
that what they were bought for.

But *you* aren't a tradie. All you cart around is hot air and everyone
knows hot air is *light*. Oh, I forgot, you cart bullshit around too,
that's also light!

[alvey]

Post by Xeno
You live on an isolated mesa, no surprise you don't see them. Up here we
see them all the time. Took a photo of one in a *standard size* parking
bay in the main street. Took up the entire bay!

My local supermarket carpark is so infested with the stupid things now
that I'm thinking seriously about getting me groceries delivered. It's
been ages since my weekly trip hasn't had a Nasty Moment or three in the
carpark.

Note/Rant: One parking place the shitful things should definitely be
banned from in large carparks is at the end of a row. When they park
there they not only reduce the 90 degree turning space to single lane,
but also, to make it even more exciting, you can't see what's coming
around the bend. Unless its another hulkster which, of course, will be
towing a large boat or caravan.


alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by alvey

Post by Xeno
You live on an isolated mesa, no surprise you don't see them. Up here
we see them all the time. Took a photo of one in a *standard size*
parking bay in the main street. Took up the entire bay!

post it

Post by alvey
My local supermarket carpark is so infested with the stupid things now
that I'm thinking seriously about getting me groceries delivered. It's
been ages since my weekly trip hasn't had a Nasty Moment or three in
the carpark.

yep. they're everywhere here

Post by alvey
Note/Rant: One parking place the shitful things should definitely be
banned from in large carparks is at the end of a row. When they park
there they not only reduce the 90 degree turning space to single lane,
but also, to make it even more exciting, you can't see what's coming
around the bend. Unless its another hulkster which, of course, will be
towing a large boat or caravan.
alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Xeno
You live on an isolated mesa, no surprise you don't see them. Up
here we see them all the time. Took a photo of one in a *standard
size* parking bay in the main street. Took up the entire bay!

post it

Post by alvey
My local supermarket carpark is so infested with the stupid things
now that I'm thinking seriously about getting me groceries delivered.
It's been ages since my weekly trip hasn't had a Nasty Moment or
three in the carpark.

yep. they're everywhere here

Post by alvey
Note/Rant: One parking place the shitful things should definitely be
banned from in large carparks is at the end of a row. When they park
there they not only reduce the 90 degree turning space to single
lane, but also, to make it even more exciting, you can't see what's
coming around the bend. Unless its another hulkster which, of course,
will be towing a large boat or caravan.
alvey

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Xeno
You live on an isolated mesa, no surprise you don't see them. Up
here we see them all the time. Took a photo of one in a *standard
size* parking bay in the main street. Took up the entire bay!

post it

Post by alvey
My local supermarket carpark is so infested with the stupid things
now that I'm thinking seriously about getting me groceries
delivered. It's been ages since my weekly trip hasn't had a Nasty
Moment or three in the carpark.

yep. they're everywhere here

Post by alvey
Note/Rant: One parking place the shitful things should definitely be
banned from in large carparks is at the end of a row. When they park
there they not only reduce the 90 degree turning space to single
lane, but also, to make it even more exciting, you can't see what's
coming around the bend. Unless its another hulkster which, of
course, will be towing a large boat or caravan.
alvey

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

here's a more relevant one ..
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mercedes-benz-a-2018-5-door-hatchback-amg-45-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

or https://tinyurl.com/5f3uuens

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse
here's a more relevant one ..
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mercedes-benz-a-2018-5-door-hatchback-amg-45-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

That's more like it. Thanks for this. It hightlights perfectly just how
much of a wankerbox the little Benz is, and why it should be banned :)

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
here's a more relevant one ..
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mercedes-benz-a-2018-5-door-hatchback-amg-45-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

That's more like it. Thanks for this. It hightlights perfectly just how
much of a wankerbox the little Benz is, and why it should be banned :)

Piss poor at temp at justifying *your* wankerbox Darren. Hate to have to
point out that you projecting your inanities onto others isn’t working. The
Benz is a standard sized sedan/wagon whereas the oversized truck can carry
little more than a one ton tabletop Holden. Really shows the folly of such
pointless vehicles as yours.

____
Xeno

[alvey]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
here's a more relevant one ..
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mercedes-benz-a-2018-5-door-hatchback-amg-45-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

That's more like it. Thanks for this. It hightlights perfectly just how
much of a wankerbox the little Benz is, and why it should be banned :)

Your DNA engineers did a superb job with your Reality by-pass Fraudster.

[alvey]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Xeno
You live on an isolated mesa, no surprise you don't see them. Up
here we see them all the time. Took a photo of one in a *standard
size* parking bay in the main street. Took up the entire bay!

post it

Post by alvey
My local supermarket carpark is so infested with the stupid things
now that I'm thinking seriously about getting me groceries
delivered. It's been ages since my weekly trip hasn't had a Nasty
Moment or three in the carpark.

yep. they're everywhere here

Post by alvey
Note/Rant: One parking place the shitful things should definitely be
banned from in large carparks is at the end of a row. When they park
there they not only reduce the 90 degree turning space to single
lane, but also, to make it even more exciting, you can't see what's
coming around the bend. Unless its another hulkster which, of
course, will be towing a large boat or caravan.
alvey

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

here's a more relevant one ..
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mercedes-benz-a-2018-5-door-hatchback-amg-45-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/
or https://tinyurl.com/5f3uuens

Yep, one of those is designed for where 73% of our population live.



alvey

[Xeno]

Post by alvey

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Xeno
You live on an isolated mesa, no surprise you don't see them. Up
here we see them all the time. Took a photo of one in a *standard
size* parking bay in the main street. Took up the entire bay!

post it

Post by alvey
My local supermarket carpark is so infested with the stupid things
now that I'm thinking seriously about getting me groceries
delivered. It's been ages since my weekly trip hasn't had a Nasty
Moment or three in the carpark.

yep. they're everywhere here

Post by alvey
Note/Rant: One parking place the shitful things should definitely
be banned from in large carparks is at the end of a row. When they
park there they not only reduce the 90 degree turning space to
single lane, but also, to make it even more exciting, you can't see
what's coming around the bend. Unless its another hulkster which,
of course, will be towing a large boat or caravan.
alvey

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-
door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

here's a more relevant one .. https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/
compare/mercedes-benz-a-2018-5-door-hatchback-amg-45-vs-ford-
f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/
or https://tinyurl.com/5f3uuens

Yep, one of those is designed for where 73% of our population live.
alvey

And the other is a *compromised* commercial vehicle.

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

ROTFL :)

Could you have picked a more irrelevant example with which to make a
useless point? For fuck's sake :)

[Daryl]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-
door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

ROTFL :)
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example with which to make a
useless point? For fuck's sake :)

His comment is about as useful as me saying that I could easily fit 2 of
those F Trucks into the trailer I used to tow behind the DAF prime mover.
More relevant is the way every car is bigger, a 2024 Corolla is 430mm
longer and 275mm wider than a 1970 Corolla.

[Xeno]

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-
door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

ROTFL :)
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example with which to make a
useless point? For fuck's sake :)

His comment is about as useful as me saying that I could easily fit 2 of
those F Trucks into the trailer I used to tow behind the DAF prime mover.

And that's where they belong - off the road.

Post by Daryl
More relevant is the way every car is bigger, a 2024 Corolla is 430mm
longer and 275mm wider than a 1970 Corolla.

These days the Yaris is akin to what the Corolla is. Mazda is no
different with its model range, look at the Mazda 2 for instance. So
what? Model bloat has been present since the beginning of automotive
history. It's a marketing exercise. Here's a Yaris and RAM, not exactly
equally sharing the two occupied bays.

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And here is the direct size comparison

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/toyota-yaris-2005-5-door-hatchback-vs-dodge-ram-2010-pickup-2500-crew-cab-4wd/

That is not the issue with the trucks however. Aussie parking bays, on
street or off street, are simply not designed to deal with monster
trucks no matter which way you slice it. It's all made worse by the fact
that most monster trucks are driven by miniscule penis sized losers and
*not* the tradies for which they were designed and made.

I have a pic here of one of the RAM 2500 HD trucks parked in a *car
sized bay*. Its 6066 mm length takes up pretty much *all* of the bay.
The standard on-street parking bay in Australia is 2.4-2.6 metres width,
5.4 metres length. The length of the bay in question, the end bay in the
street, appears slightly longer than that but *still* the RAM occupies
*all of it*. The standard bay length is being increased in Aus to 5.6
metres length. Gee, that'll make a huge difference - not!

As always, you pricks put in faux arguments.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Xeno

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-
door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

ROTFL :)
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example

of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's an
example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

Post by Xeno

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy
with which to make a useless point? For fuck's sake :)

His comment is about as useful as me saying that I could easily fit 2
of those F Trucks into the trailer I used to tow behind the DAF prime
mover.

And that's where they belong - off the road.

yeah

Post by Xeno

Post by Daryl
More relevant is the way every car is bigger, a 2024 Corolla is 430mm
longer and 275mm wider than a 1970 Corolla.

These days the Yaris is akin to what the Corolla is. Mazda is no
different with its model range, look at the Mazda 2 for instance. So
what? Model bloat has been present since the beginning of automotive
history. It's a marketing exercise. Here's a Yaris and RAM, not
exactly equally sharing the two occupied bays.
https://preview.redd.it/ram-vs-yaris-at-chadstone-v0-iuu5dyu421qa1.jpg?auto=webp&s=48384db1c165ac0622f292c136e1158f6286e293
And here is the direct size comparison
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/toyota-yaris-2005-5-door-hatchback-vs-dodge-ram-2010-pickup-2500-crew-cab-4wd/
That is not the issue with the trucks however. Aussie parking bays, on
street or off street, are simply not designed to deal with monster
trucks no matter which way you slice it. It's all made worse by the
fact that most monster trucks are driven by miniscule penis sized
losers and *not* the tradies for which they were designed and made.
I have a pic here of one of the RAM 2500 HD trucks parked in a *car
sized bay*. Its 6066 mm length takes up pretty much *all* of the bay.
The standard on-street parking bay in Australia is 2.4-2.6 metres
width, 5.4 metres length. The length of the bay in question, the end
bay in the street, appears slightly longer than that but *still* the
RAM occupies *all of it*. The standard bay length is being increased
in Aus to 5.6 metres length. Gee, that'll make a huge difference - not!
As always, you pricks put in faux arguments.

and the 350's are coming which are bigger still!

[Xeno]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-
door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

ROTFL :)
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example

of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's an
example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

Post by Xeno

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy
with which to make a useless point? For fuck's sake :)

His comment is about as useful as me saying that I could easily fit 2
of those F Trucks into the trailer I used to tow behind the DAF prime
mover.

And that's where they belong - off the road.

yeah

Post by Xeno

Post by Daryl
More relevant is the way every car is bigger, a 2024 Corolla is 430mm
longer and 275mm wider than a 1970 Corolla.

These days the Yaris is akin to what the Corolla is. Mazda is no
different with its model range, look at the Mazda 2 for instance. So
what? Model bloat has been present since the beginning of automotive
history. It's a marketing exercise. Here's a Yaris and RAM, not
exactly equally sharing the two occupied bays.
https://preview.redd.it/ram-vs-yaris-at-chadstone-v0-
iuu5dyu421qa1.jpg?auto=webp&s=48384db1c165ac0622f292c136e1158f6286e293
And here is the direct size comparison
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/toyota-yaris-2005-5-door-
hatchback-vs-dodge-ram-2010-pickup-2500-crew-cab-4wd/
That is not the issue with the trucks however. Aussie parking bays, on
street or off street, are simply not designed to deal with monster
trucks no matter which way you slice it. It's all made worse by the
fact that most monster trucks are driven by miniscule penis sized
losers and *not* the tradies for which they were designed and made.
I have a pic here of one of the RAM 2500 HD trucks parked in a *car
sized bay*. Its 6066 mm length takes up pretty much *all* of the bay.
The standard on-street parking bay in Australia is 2.4-2.6 metres
width, 5.4 metres length. The length of the bay in question, the end
bay in the street, appears slightly longer than that but *still* the
RAM occupies *all of it*. The standard bay length is being increased
in Aus to 5.6 metres length. Gee, that'll make a huge difference - not!
As always, you pricks put in faux arguments.

and the 350's are coming which are bigger still!

The Ram vs Yaris in Chaddie pic clearly emphasises how *pig ignorant*
and *inconsiderate* those hulkster drivers really are.

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example

of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's an
example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

And exactly how is what some people drove in the 1960's even *remotely*
relevant to anything people are driving today?

As I said. The more you post, the stupider you get.....

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example

of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's an
example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

And exactly how is what some people drove in the 1960's even
*remotely* relevant to anything people are driving today?

it's showing how much different passenger vehicles have become. there is
something really wrong with your brain. it doesn't function like a
normal persons.

Post by Noddy
As I said. The more you post, the stupider you get....

au contraire. your stupidity is displayed by every post you make

[Xeno]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example

of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's an
example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

And exactly how is what some people drove in the 1960's even
*remotely* relevant to anything people are driving today?

it's showing how much different passenger vehicles have become. there is
something really wrong with your brain. it doesn't function like a
normal persons.

Post by Noddy
As I said. The more you post, the stupider you get....

au contraire. your stupidity is displayed by every post you make

He's reached rock bottom!

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's an
example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

And exactly how is what some people drove in the 1960's even
*remotely* relevant to anything people are driving today?

it's showing how much different passenger vehicles have become.

Really? And how was comparing a 1960's VW Beetle to a current F series
truck relative to anything people drive today?

*Everything* has got fat these days Felix. Your "complaint" has foxused
solely on American trucks, but it's not just them. It's everything.
Check out 50 years of Honda Civic evolution....

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/honda-civic-1972-3-door-hatchback-vs-honda-civic-2016-5-door-hatchback/

Perhaps something a little closer to home for you?

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mg-mgb-1962-roadster-vs-mg-zs-2020-suv/
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/ford-mustang-1966-2-door-fastback-vs-ford-mustang-2018-coupe/
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/cadillac-ct5-2019-sedan-vs-cadillac-eldorado-1959-cabriolet/

The point? The point is that whatever obscure argument you're trying to
make here is based on the nonsensical deluded shit that floats around in
your head.

"Invalid" would best describe it.

Post by Mighty Mouse
there is something really wrong with your brain. it doesn't function

like a

Post by Mighty Mouse
normal persons.

Says the guy who thought lighters could work without fuel.....

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's an
example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

And exactly how is what some people drove in the 1960's even
*remotely* relevant to anything people are driving today?

it's showing how much different passenger vehicles have become.

Really? And how was comparing a 1960's VW Beetle to a current F series
truck relative to anything people drive today?

The VW Beetle was considered a small car in its day. So was the original
Corolla. Nowadays the Yaris would be the Corolla equivalent, same
overall size, same passenger capacity, same engine size

Post by Noddy
*Everything* has got fat these days Felix. Your "complaint" has foxused
solely on American trucks, but it's not just them. It's everything.

Ahem, the American truck is now on our shores. Our streets and, in
particular, our parking bays, are simply not suited to them.

Post by Noddy
Check out 50 years of Honda Civic evolution....

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/honda-civic-1972-3-door-
hatchback-vs-honda-civic-2016-5-door-hatchback/

Yes, they changed/increased their size category. Your point is???

Post by Noddy
Perhaps something a little closer to home for you?

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mg-mgb-1962-roadster-vs-mg-
zs-2020-suv/

Your lies certainly stay the same albeit somewhat more *subdued* now
you've been *outed* as a liar and bullshit artist.

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/ford-mustang-1966-2-door-
fastback-vs-ford-mustang-2018-coupe/

Your brain did. Called regression I believe!

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/cadillac-ct5-2019-sedan-vs-
cadillac-eldorado-1959-cabriolet/

The point? The point is that whatever obscure argument you're trying to
make here is based on the nonsensical deluded shit that floats around in
your head.
"Invalid" would best describe it.

You're the *invalid* here, and a liar too!

Post by Noddy
 > there is something really wrong with your brain. it doesn't function
like a

Post by Mighty Mouse
normal persons.

Says the guy who thought lighters could work without fuel.....

Says the guy who thought he could claim 3 apprenticeships and 3 trades
without getting pulled up on it.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's
an example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of
today's monstrosities.

And exactly how is what some people drove in the 1960's even
*remotely* relevant to anything people are driving today?

it's showing how much different passenger vehicles have become.

Really? And how was comparing a 1960's VW Beetle to a current F
series truck relative to anything people drive today?

The VW Beetle was considered a small car in its day. So was the
original Corolla. Nowadays the Yaris would be the Corolla equivalent,
same overall size, same passenger capacity, same engine size

Post by Noddy
*Everything* has got fat these days Felix. Your "complaint" has
foxused solely on American trucks, but it's not just them. It's
everything.

Ahem, the American truck is now on our shores. Our streets and, in
particular, our parking bays, are simply not suited to them.

many parking bays are even too small for SUV's to fit comfortably

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy
Check out 50 years of Honda Civic evolution....

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/honda-civic-1972-3-door-
hatchback-vs-honda-civic-2016-5-door-hatchback/

Yes, they changed/increased their size category. Your point is???

Post by Noddy
Perhaps something a little closer to home for you?

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mg-mgb-1962-roadster-vs-mg-
zs-2020-suv/

Your lies certainly stay the same albeit somewhat more *subdued* now
you've been *outed* as a liar and bullshit artist.

yep

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/ford-mustang-1966-2-door-
fastback-vs-ford-mustang-2018-coupe/

Your brain did. Called regression I believe!

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/cadillac-ct5-2019-sedan-vs-
cadillac-eldorado-1959-cabriolet/

The point? The point is that whatever obscure argument you're trying
to make here is based on the nonsensical deluded shit that floats
around in your head.

any normal person had no need to ask what the purpose was. it was
obvious it was simply to show how much different what we drove then is
from what we drive now.

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy
"Invalid" would best describe it.

You're the *invalid* here, and a liar too!

he is!

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy
  >

Post by Mighty Mouse
there is something really wrong with your brain. it doesn't function
like a normal persons.

Says the guy who thought lighters could work without fuel.....

Says the guy who thought he could claim 3 apprenticeships and 3 trades
without getting pulled up on it.

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
The point? The point is that whatever obscure argument you're trying
to make here is based on the nonsensical deluded shit that floats
around in your head.

any normal person had no need to ask what the purpose was. it was
obvious it was simply to show how much different what we drove then is
from what we drive now.

Which *again* is completely bloody irrelevant to anything being
discussed here. As usual you've wandered off onto some bizarre little
journey that has nothing to do with anything other than to show how
utterly incapable you are of holding a train of thought for more than a
couple of posts.

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
The point? The point is that whatever obscure argument you're trying
to make here is based on the nonsensical deluded shit that floats
around in your head.

any normal person had no need to ask what the purpose was. it was
obvious it was simply to show how much different what we drove then is
from what we drive now.

Which *again* is completely bloody irrelevant to anything being
discussed here. As usual you've wandered off onto some bizarre little
journey that has nothing to do with anything other than to show how
utterly incapable you are of holding a train of thought for more than a
couple of posts.

Your train was derailed decades ago, about the time when you started
compensating for that year 9 failure that's haunted your life ever
since. You overloaded your train with all the bullshit and fake claims,
the wheels subsequently fell off, and you're left with the massive train
wreck that is your life.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
The point? The point is that whatever obscure argument you're
trying to make here is based on the nonsensical deluded shit that
floats around in your head.

any normal person had no need to ask what the purpose was. it was
obvious it was simply to show how much different what we drove then
is from what we drive now.

Which *again* is completely bloody irrelevant to anything being
discussed here. As usual you've wandered off onto some bizarre little
journey that has nothing to do with anything other than to show how
utterly incapable you are of holding a train of thought for more than
a couple of posts.

Your train was derailed decades ago, about the time when you started
compensating for that year 9 failure that's haunted your life ever
since. You overloaded your train with all the bullshit and fake
claims, the wheels subsequently fell off, and you're left with the
massive train wreck that is your life.

lol. clever analogy

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno
Your train was derailed decades ago, about the time when you started
compensating for that year 9 failure that's haunted your life ever
since. You overloaded your train with all the bullshit and fake
claims, the wheels subsequently fell off, and you're left with the
massive train wreck that is your life.

lol. clever analogy

ROTFL :)

Is it Felix? Is it as "clever" as him pretending to be a bunch of
different people and then bullshitting his brains out in claiming that
they're all unique individuals?

Notice how this mental case loves throwing claims of "bullshit" around?
Why don't you ask Jerky about how he felt it necessary to investigate
him over it :)

[alvey]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno
Your train was derailed decades ago, about the time when you started
compensating for that year 9 failure that's haunted your life ever
since. You overloaded your train with all the bullshit and fake
claims, the wheels subsequently fell off, and you're left with the
massive train wreck that is your life.

lol. clever analogy

ROTFL :)
Is it Felix? Is it as "clever" as him pretending to be a bunch of
different people and then bullshitting his brains out in claiming that
they're all unique individuals?

Another stunning own goal from Fraudstero! He's just a machine!

Instead of bothering with the blindingly obvious retort, here's a
thought for the Merrimu Madman!

Fraudster, you've blurted many, many times that you've k/fed certain
people and don't read their posts *unless they're quoted by another*.
Pause. So why do you read them (and even reply to them!) in that case? I
mean, your k/f is a sham as ***EVERYONE*** knows that you read every
post, but how can you *not* realise what a laughable buffoon you look
with this practice?



alvey

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno
Your train was derailed decades ago, about the time when you started
compensating for that year 9 failure that's haunted your life ever
since. You overloaded your train with all the bullshit and fake
claims, the wheels subsequently fell off, and you're left with the
massive train wreck that is your life.

lol. clever analogy

ROTFL :)
Is it Felix? Is it as "clever" as him pretending to be a bunch of
different people and then bullshitting his brains out in claiming that
they're all unique individuals?
Notice how this mental case loves throwing claims of "bullshit" around?
Why don't you ask Jerky about how he felt it necessary to investigate
him over it :)

And he found I wasn't bullshitting. You, on the other hand, have never
stopped bullshitting since *your* day one here!

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno
Your train was derailed decades ago, about the time when you
started compensating for that year 9 failure that's haunted your
life ever since. You overloaded your train with all the bullshit
and fake claims, the wheels subsequently fell off, and you're left
with the massive train wreck that is your life.

lol. clever analogy

ROTFL :)
Is it Felix? Is it as "clever" as him pretending to be a bunch of
different people and then bullshitting his brains out in claiming
that they're all unique individuals?
Notice how this mental case loves throwing claims of "bullshit"
around? Why don't you ask Jerky about how he felt it necessary to
investigate him over it :)

And he found I wasn't bullshitting. You, on the other hand, have never
stopped bullshitting since *your* day one here!

what will be the next anniversary of him 'leaving with a bang', third or
fourth, lol!

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno
And he found I wasn't bullshitting. You, on the other hand, have never
stopped bullshitting since *your* day one here!

what will be the next anniversary of him 'leaving with a bang', third or
fourth, lol!

Hey Felix? Did you know that Jerky's investigation found that Krypsis
and Xeno were in fact two separate people? No, I didn't either. In fact,
I'd happily bet the farm that *no one* did.

I know you like "facts", and are happy to make a noise about people
lying, but how surreal do you find mental case's actions here of talking
shit about talking shit?

Does it do your head in, or are you just going to ignore it as usual? :)

[Xeno]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno
And he found I wasn't bullshitting. You, on the other hand, have
never stopped bullshitting since *your* day one here!

what will be the next anniversary of him 'leaving with a bang', third
or fourth, lol!

Hey Felix?  Did you know that Jerky's investigation found that Krypsis
and Xeno were in fact two separate people? No, I didn't either. In fact,
I'd happily bet the farm that *no one* did.
I know you like "facts", and are happy to make a noise about people
lying, but how surreal do you find mental case's actions here of talking
shit about talking shit?

The only mental case here - is you! And, yes, you talk a lot of shit,
especially your fake claims of being a dual qualified tradie and
automotive business owner.

Does it do your head in, or are you just going to ignore it as usual? :)

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
The point? The point is that whatever obscure argument you're
trying to make here is based on the nonsensical deluded shit that
floats around in your head.

any normal person had no need to ask what the purpose was. it was
obvious it was simply to show how much different what we drove then
is from what we drive now.

Which *again* is completely bloody irrelevant to anything being
discussed here. As usual you've wandered off onto some bizarre little
journey that has nothing to do with anything other than to show how
utterly incapable you are of holding a train of thought for more than
a couple of posts.

you're a nut case

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
The point? The point is that whatever obscure argument you're
trying to make here is based on the nonsensical deluded shit that
floats around in your head.

any normal person had no need to ask what the purpose was. it was
obvious it was simply to show how much different what we drove then
is from what we drive now.

Which *again* is completely bloody irrelevant to anything being
discussed here. As usual you've wandered off onto some bizarre little
journey that has nothing to do with anything other than to show how
utterly incapable you are of holding a train of thought for more than
a couple of posts.

you're a nut case

More irony from the dickhead who can't tell the difference between CGI
and reality.


What's next Felix? Introduce the Titanic into the conversation somehow?
It'd be about as relevant as comparing a VW Beetle to a F series truck :)

[alvey]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
The point? The point is that whatever obscure argument you're
trying to make here is based on the nonsensical deluded shit that
floats around in your head.

any normal person had no need to ask what the purpose was. it was
obvious it was simply to show how much different what we drove then
is from what we drive now.

Which *again* is completely bloody irrelevant to anything being
discussed here. As usual you've wandered off onto some bizarre little
journey that has nothing to do with anything other than to show how
utterly incapable you are of holding a train of thought for more than
a couple of posts.

you're a nut case

More irony from the dickhead who can't tell the difference between CGI
and reality.

I wish you'd make it more of a challenge to show you up. Can't you
outsource?



alvey

[Xeno]

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
The point? The point is that whatever obscure argument you're
trying to make here is based on the nonsensical deluded shit that
floats around in your head.

any normal person had no need to ask what the purpose was. it was
obvious it was simply to show how much different what we drove then
is from what we drive now.

Which *again* is completely bloody irrelevant to anything being
discussed here. As usual you've wandered off onto some bizarre
little journey that has nothing to do with anything other than to
show how utterly incapable you are of holding a train of thought for
more than a couple of posts.

you're a nut case

More irony from the dickhead who can't tell the difference between CGI
and reality.

I wish you'd make it more of a challenge to show you up. Can't you
outsource?
alvey

He already did that, to the other members of the FLCJC. It didn't work
then, it isn't working now.

[Keithr0]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's

an example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
And exactly how is what some people drove in the 1960's even

*remotely* relevant to anything people are driving today?

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
it's showing how much different passenger vehicles have become.

Really? And how was comparing a 1960's VW Beetle to a current F

series truck relative to anything people drive today?

Post by Noddy
*Everything* has got fat these days Felix. Your "complaint" has

foxused solely on American trucks, but it's not just them. It's
everything. Check out 50 years of Honda Civic evolution....

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/honda-civic-1972-3-door-

hatchback-vs-honda-civic-2016-5-door-hatchback/

Post by Noddy
Perhaps something a little closer to home for you?

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mg-mgb-1962-roadster-vs-mg-

zs-2020-suv/

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/ford-mustang-1966-2-door-

fastback-vs-ford-mustang-2018-coupe/

Useless bloody site only knows about stuff available in the US. Can't do
a comparison between the Falcon or Holden ute and the Ranger.

[Noddy]

Post by Keithr0
Useless bloody site only knows about stuff available in the US. Can't do
a comparison between the Falcon or Holden ute and the Ranger.

Why would you want to given that they're nothing like each other?

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0
Useless bloody site only knows about stuff available in the US. Can't
do a comparison between the Falcon or Holden ute and the Ranger.

Why would you want to given that they're nothing like each other?

Yeah, you're right, the Falcon and Holden utes are appropriately sized
*work vehicles* and your Ranger is, for the purpose you purchased it, a
pure wankmobile. It'll always be lightly laden, never needing to do any
real tradie work. After all, it only needs to compensate for your little
dick! Not the school drop off and pickup!

[jonz]

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0
Useless bloody site only knows about stuff available in the US.
Can't do a comparison between the Falcon or Holden ute and the Ranger.

Why would you want to given that they're nothing like each other?

Yeah, you're right, the Falcon and Holden utes are appropriately sized
*work vehicles* and your Ranger is, for the purpose you purchased it,
a pure wankmobile. It'll always be lightly laden, never needing to do
any real tradie work. After all, it only needs to compensate for your
little dick! Not the school drop off and pickup!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 That`s the fourth time you have mentioned *little dicks* in the last
few days. The signs of yer inadequacy, (which you display in *every*
poast) are *really* coming to the fore now!. You, and yer specious
argument/reasoning is fuckin' *laughable*!. Your nemesis is playing you
like a violin, and you don`t even realise the fact!. What a flop.

[Noddy]

Post by jonz

Post by Xeno
Yeah, you're right, the Falcon and Holden utes are appropriately sized
*work vehicles* and your Ranger is, for the purpose you purchased it,
a pure wankmobile. It'll always be lightly laden, never needing to do
any real tradie work. After all, it only needs to compensate for your
little dick! Not the school drop off and pickup!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 That`s the fourth time you have mentioned *little dicks* in the last
few days.

He clearly has a problem.

The signs of yer inadequacy, (which you display in *every*

Post by jonz
poast) are *really* coming to the fore now!. You, and yer specious
argument/reasoning is fuckin' *laughable*!. Your nemesis is playing you
like a violin, and you don`t even realise the fact!. What a flop.

The unrequited love has been a dagger through his heart since day one.
That and the fact that he's been shown to be a clueless shit talking
moron more times than anyone could reasonably be expected to remember :)

Like this utter nonsense he spouts here, for example. "Falcon and Holden
utes are appropriately sized *work vehicles*". Firstly, how the fuck
would he know given that his claim to automotive fame is driving
Marina's before eventually graduating to the elevated heights of a
poverty pack Corolla :), and secondly if the Falcadore utes were so
great why are they no longer with us other than in the hands of muppets
who use them as burnout machines?

I'm *still* laughing at this ridiculous wannabee's utterly nonsenscial
claim that the only reason the Ranger is the number one selling vehicle
in the country is because the Hi-lux is in short supply :)

The bloke is genuinely mental :)

[Daryl]

Post by jonz

Post by Xeno

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0
Useless bloody site only knows about stuff available in the US.
Can't do a comparison between the Falcon or Holden ute and the Ranger.

Why would you want to given that they're nothing like each other?

Yeah, you're right, the Falcon and Holden utes are appropriately sized
*work vehicles* and your Ranger is, for the purpose you purchased it,
a pure wankmobile. It'll always be lightly laden, never needing to do
any real tradie work. After all, it only needs to compensate for your
little dick! Not the school drop off and pickup!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 That`s the fourth time you have mentioned *little dicks* in the last
few days. The signs of yer inadequacy, (which you display in *every*
poast) are *really* coming to the fore now!. You, and yer specious
argument/reasoning is fuckin' *laughable*!. Your nemesis is playing you
like a violin, and you don`t even realise the fact!. What a flop.

Even worse is stating that Falcon and Holden utes are "appropriately
sized work vehicles", appropriate for what?
Might be "appropriate" for a tradie that doesn't carry much weight or
tow anything heavy.
Plumbers used to dig holes with a shovel, now they tow around a mini
excavator, try that with a Falcon or Holden ute, apart from being
illegal the tow bar would be dragging on the ground.
Its also been 7 yrs since you could buy a locally made ute which is well
beyond the life span of most tradies vehicles and even if you could
still buy them very few tradies would buy them for work simply because
they aren't suited to the job anywhere near as well as a Japanese ute

[Noddy]

Post by Daryl

Post by jonz
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  That`s the fourth time you have mentioned *little dicks* in the last
few days. The signs of yer inadequacy, (which you display in *every*
poast) are *really* coming to the fore now!. You, and yer specious
argument/reasoning is fuckin' *laughable*!. Your nemesis is playing
you like a violin, and you don`t even realise the fact!. What a flop.

Even worse is stating that Falcon and Holden utes are "appropriately
sized work vehicles", appropriate for what?

Indeed.

Post by Daryl
Might be "appropriate" for a tradie that doesn't carry much weight or
tow anything heavy.
Plumbers used to dig holes with a shovel, now they tow around a mini
excavator, try that with a Falcon or Holden ute, apart from being
illegal the tow bar would be dragging on the ground.

And crap itself getting up the first medium sized hill.

Post by Daryl
Its also been 7 yrs since you could buy a locally made ute which is well
beyond the life span of most tradies vehicles and even if you could
still buy them very few tradies would buy them for work simply because
they aren't suited to the job anywhere near as well as a Japanese ute

These mental midgets can bang on about what *they* think is
"appropriate" all they like, but the reality is that they have
absolutely no idea what works for anyone but *themselves*. I like dual
cab utes because they suit *my* needs. If I want to take the family
somewhere I can. If I want to pick up a load, I can. If I want to tow a
large trailer, I can. If I want to do all fucking three at the same
time, *I can*. It's a true "utilitarian" vehicle choice that suits *my*
needs down to the ground and I use it for all of those things. What
other people choose to drive is *their* business, as their needs or
wants are not mine.

This is such a no brainer of a concept, yet why some people think it's
complicated or that they are in some special position of authority that
permits them to declare what's "right" for anyone else is mystifying.

These idiots are delusional. In pointing the finger at others what
they're *really* doing is screaming "me me me" in showing everyone that
*they're* the selfish cunts who are whinging about some perceived
infringement of their *own* sense of entitlement.

Spastics. The lot of them.

[alvey]

Post by jonz
 That`s the fourth time you have mentioned *little dicks* in the last
few days. The signs of yer inadequacy, (which you display in *every*
poast) are *really* coming to the fore now!.

So by your above novel logic then Fraudsters' constant descriptions of
felix as "stupid/idiot/etc" means that he's referring to himself. Gotcha.



alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0
Useless bloody site only knows about stuff available in the US. Can't
do a comparison between the Falcon or Holden ute and the Ranger.

I'd already looked for Holden

Post by Noddy
Why would you want to

because it's interesting. normal ppl understand.

Post by Noddy
given that they're nothing like each other?

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0
Useless bloody site only knows about stuff available in the US. Can't
do a comparison between the Falcon or Holden ute and the Ranger.

I'd already looked for Holden

Post by Noddy
Why would you want to

because it's interesting. normal ppl understand.

What's actually interesting about it Felix? We *all* know that *all*
vehicles today have grown in size. Well, everyone apart from you that
is. But more importantly how would comparing a dedicated commericial
dual cab vehicle like a Ranger (or BT50, or Hilux, or Triton, or Dmax et
all) compare in any way to a car based ute like a Commodore or Falcon?

In what way would that be valid?

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0
Useless bloody site only knows about stuff available in the US.
Can't do a comparison between the Falcon or Holden ute and the Ranger.

I'd already looked for Holden

Post by Noddy
Why would you want to

because it's interesting. normal ppl understand.

What's actually interesting about it Felix? We *all* know that *all*
vehicles today have grown in size. Well, everyone apart from you that
is. But more importantly how would comparing a dedicated commericial
dual cab vehicle like a Ranger (or BT50, or Hilux, or Triton, or Dmax et
all) compare in any way to a car based ute like a Commodore or Falcon?
In what way would that be valid?

The tray/tub in a Coomodore/Falcon ute would be way more useful than
that tiny tub on your Ranger. Hell, it's so high you would have trouble
lifting anything into it.

[Xeno]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0
Useless bloody site only knows about stuff available in the US. Can't
do a comparison between the Falcon or Holden ute and the Ranger.

I'd already looked for Holden

Post by Noddy
Why would you want to

because it's interesting. normal ppl understand.

And it's car related in a car newsgroup.

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
given that they're nothing like each other?

[jonz]

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy

Post by Keithr0
Useless bloody site only knows about stuff available in the US.
Can't do a comparison between the Falcon or Holden ute and the Ranger.

I'd already looked for Holden

Post by Noddy
Why would you want to

because it's interesting. normal ppl understand.

And it's car related in a car newsgroup.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

For you and your fellow *brain deads*, it`s simply a host site for yer 
*vendetta* .. Wouldn`t matter *what* the group name was.

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
given that they're nothing like each other?

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example

of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's an
example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

And exactly how is what some people drove in the 1960's even *remotely*
relevant to anything people are driving today?

Typical car of the 60s, 4 wheels, IC engine, transmission, steering,
brakes and the usual 4 or 5 seats. Most cars these days *still* have
those same features albeit much more sophisticated. Your point is???

Post by Noddy
As I said. The more you post, the stupider you get.....

It's Ok Darren, it's simply not possible for you to become more stupid -
you have already reached the nadir on that aspect.

[BillH]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example

of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's an
example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

And exactly how is what some people drove in the 1960's even *remotely*
relevant to anything people are driving today?

Well due to your self-serving and incompetent snipping tactic I have nfi
what the context is. Add in that your opinion is a thing of no value
then... meh.

Post by Noddy
As I said. The more you post, the stupider you get.....

If Fraudsters' real life had been 10% of his imaginary one then he
wouldn't be so maniacally obsessed with denigrating everyone else.




alvey

[Xeno]

Post by BillH

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Noddy
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example

of course he can't see beyond the end of his nose as always. it's an
example of what we drove in the sixties compared with one of today's
monstrosities.

And exactly how is what some people drove in the 1960's even
*remotely* relevant to anything people are driving today?

Well due to your self-serving and incompetent snipping tactic I have nfi
what the context is. Add in that your opinion is a thing of no value
then... meh.

Post by Noddy
As I said. The more you post, the stupider you get.....

If Fraudsters' real life had been 10% of his imaginary one then he
wouldn't be so maniacally obsessed with denigrating everyone else.

Lucky to be 1% in my estimation, especially given his obsession with
denigrating everyone else who managed to make something of theirs.

Post by BillH
alvey

[Noddy]

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-
door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

ROTFL :)
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example with which to make a
useless point? For fuck's sake :)

His comment is about as useful as me saying that I could easily fit 2 of
those F Trucks into the trailer I used to tow behind the DAF prime mover.
More relevant is the way every car is bigger, a 2024 Corolla is 430mm
longer and 275mm wider than a 1970 Corolla.

Indeed.

I just find the idea of complaining about what other people choose to
drive to be utterly ridiculous, and it *always* seems to be the
softcocks who buy small cars as the ones who make the most noise. Hello?
You live in a world where you have to share the roads with a myriad of
different sized vehicles, and you *knew* this before you made your
choice so you get to suck that shit up.

Buying a small car and then pissing & moaning about how threatened you
feel about vehicles that are bigger does nothing but make you look like
a complete retard, and given the vocal minority around here who are
doing all the pants wetting it only serves to confirm what we already
know :)

[Xeno]

Post by Noddy

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-
door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

ROTFL :)
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example with which to make a
useless point? For fuck's sake :)

His comment is about as useful as me saying that I could easily fit 2
of those F Trucks into the trailer I used to tow behind the DAF prime
mover.
More relevant is the way every car is bigger, a 2024 Corolla is 430mm
longer and 275mm wider than a 1970 Corolla.

Indeed.
I just find the idea of complaining about what other people choose to
drive to be utterly ridiculous, and it *always* seems to be the
softcocks who buy small cars as the ones who make the most noise. Hello?
You live in a world where you have to share the roads with a myriad of
different sized vehicles, and you *knew* this before you made your
choice so you get to suck that shit up.
Buying a small car and then pissing & moaning about how threatened you

Correction, buying a medium sized car - the most *popular* sized vehicle
out there.

Post by Noddy
feel about vehicles that are bigger does nothing but make you look like
a complete retard, and given the vocal minority around here who are

Projection, *you* are the retard with the miniscule todger!

Post by Noddy
doing all the pants wetting it only serves to confirm what we already
know :)

We don't need no compensation! Hmm, should put that to music.... ;-)

[WillO]

Post by Noddy

Post by Daryl

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-beetle-1960-2-
door-sedan-vs-ford-f150-2014-4-door-pickup-supercrew/

ROTFL :)
Could you have picked a more irrelevant example with which to make a
useless point? For fuck's sake :)

His comment is about as useful as me saying that I could easily fit 2
of those F Trucks into the trailer I used to tow behind the DAF prime
mover.
More relevant is the way every car is bigger, a 2024 Corolla is 430mm
longer and 275mm wider than a 1970 Corolla.

Indeed.
I just find the idea of complaining about what other people choose to
drive to be utterly ridiculous, and it *always* seems to be the
softcocks who buy small cars as the ones who make the most noise. Hello?
You live in a world where you have to share the roads with a myriad of
different sized vehicles, and you *knew* this before you made your
choice so you get to suck that shit up.
Buying a small car and then pissing & moaning about how threatened you
feel about vehicles that are bigger does nothing but make you look like
a complete retard, and given the vocal minority around here who are
doing all the pants wetting it only serves to confirm what we already
know :)

Annnd there you have it in a nutbag.

An insecure failure desperately sucking his guts in and trying to convey
that he's Real Tough Men. It's not working Fraudster. You are, and
always will be, a pathetic loser and laughing-stock.


hth


alvey

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Daryl Walford

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you
they believe that this justifies them sitting on your
tailpipe. The fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle
many more metres to stop than the car they're tailgating
never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please.
Provide the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The
level of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

I'd have said *pitiable*!
https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full- Report22
which prompted this article;
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-is-everyone-buying-truckzillas-
that-are-too-big-for-our-streets-20230511-p5d7iy.html
   While driving recently, you may have noticed some huge vehicles
   on the road. Perhaps you’ve seen an enormous, shiny SUV too wide
   to fit in a turning lane, or maybe you’ve held your breath
   overtaking a vehicle that feels more like a tank than a normal
   car. This isn’t even hyperbole: the largest Toyota Hiluxes are
   now around the same size as the Sherman tanks used during World
   War II.
   Over the past few decades cars have grown a lot bigger, but
   with the introduction of the massive Dodge Ram and Ford F-150s,
   weighing in at up to three tonnes, we might have reached the
   absurd extreme. We know that everything is bigger in Texas, but
   now these huge SUVs and – to import another term from the US –
   “pickup trucks” are also hitting Australian streets in big
   numbers. They’re hard to miss: you’ll find them struggling to
   fit into car parks and overhanging into footpaths and bike lanes.
   It turns out that they’re not just an oversized annoyance,
   they’re also dangerous.
   Car crashes are now the leading cause of death of Australian
   children, and these monster trucks are their deadliest
   incarnation.
and
   The square shape and huge mass of these suburban tanks means
   that when they are involved in an accident, it’s much more
   likely to be a deadly one. In fact, one study found kids are
   eight times more likely to die when hit by a SUV compared to a
   normal passenger car.
and
   So why have these vehicles become more popular in Australia?
   For car manufacturers and dealers, the answer is easy: they
   make a lot more money selling truckzillas, which can cost into
   the six figures, than cheaper alternatives. Consumers have
   therefore seen a decline in smaller, lighter options.
   Pickup truck owners will often say their motivation is greater
   towing and loading capacity, but the truth is some people just
   like to feel big on the road. And the marketing reflects this,
   describing these colossal vehicles as the “apex predator[s] of
   the truck world”, that “eat everything else for breakfast”.
   The evidence shows that these vehicles aren’t always safer, and
   they’re more likely to be hauling a huge ego than a large load.
   Of course we will always need larger vehicles like removalist
   should people really be doing the school run in an oversized
   commercial truck?
These last two paragraphs have perfectly nailed Darren. For sure
his ego is *bloated*. Don't know why given the failure that his
life has been and the *insecurity* on show. But there he is,
doing the daily school run in his oversized commercial truck. No
question mark needed at the end of the usual *what’s he
compensating for* trope. Everyone knows what his truck is. It's a
statement, a reflection on the size of his penis and his
desperate need to offset elsewhere. His lies and fake claims to
trade qualifications are compensation for his *career failures*
and his truck is a *physical* display of power to compensate for
his visible and non-visible deficiencies. This has now become
acute since Darren is well into middle-age, hence the recent move
from a Navara purchased used into a Ranger purchased new - all in
direct contrast with his previously espoused car buying fiscal
principles. That Darren's method of compensation is his large ute
is patently obvious because he has no real need for a *brand new
large truck* that is, at best, a *compromise*. A decent *trailer*
would suffice for carting anything up to the size of complete
vehicles, and he wouldn't be paying exorbitant commercial
tollroad rates like he will be in the Ranger. The Ranger
suspension would be set up for load carrying and the school run
provides only for a loading of 1 kid, hardly sufficient to
*debounce* that suspension. A harsher ride 99% of the time for
sure and all because an ego needs swaddling. Hell, he has a
*truck* at home that would carry at least as much as his Ranger,
if not more, and it's much more suited to commercial needs.
I can do no better than end this on the summary to the above linked article;
   Road safety affects all of us, and we need to make our streets
   work for the most fragile bodies in our community, not the most
   fragile egos.

anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to
have 'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

Why?
They have specific applications where they excel such as heavy
towing, most smaller tow vehicles including Toyota Landcruiser have
a max tow rating of 3500kg, the F150 can tow 4500kg.
Many of large off road caravans can easily exceed the tow capacity
of 3500kg rated vehicles so people who own large caravans need
vehicles with the higher tow rating.
2 of my friends have large caravans, one tows with a 70 series
Landcruiser, the other tows with a Mazda BT50, both are very close
to their max weight so they need to be careful with how much they
weigh overall, for example if they completely fill their caravan
water tanks they could be overweight.
No problem if the tow vehicle is an F150 or other US made utes with
4500kg towing capacity.
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying
a heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are
expensive to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of
vehicles for general day to day use.
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was
the owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to
advertise what he sold.

fair enough then. but they are a problem on suburban streets.

They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.

i'm inclined to think so too. most are not needed.

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse
in narrow inner suburban streets they could block the whole road
with a couple of them parked on either side. and councils and vic
roads need to make parking bays larger to accommodate large SUV's
and monster trucks

Even better just ban the fucking things out of suburban areas.

friends live in Newport. the street is so narrow that even with
ordinary cars parked on both sides there is only enough room for cars
to travel one way. so if you're driving down the street and a car is
approaching from the opposite direction, one of you has has to find
and empty parking space to move into to let the other vehicle pass.
those roads were built at a time when most ppl rode bikes or motor
bikes, and not many ppl owned cars.

example .. Loading Image...

[alvey]

Post by Clocky

Post by Mighty Mouse
fair enough then. but they are a problem on suburban streets.

They are a problem everywhere. Only a small percentage are used for
towing - the rest only serve as a small cock compensating tool for
absolute morons.
in narrow

Post by Mighty Mouse
inner suburban streets they could block the whole road with a couple
of them parked on either side. and councils and vic roads need to make
parking bays larger to accommodate large SUV's and monster trucks

Even better just ban the fucking things out of suburban areas.

I'd vote for that, but I suspect that the guvmint would be much more
inclined to go with their usual tactic. Increase the tax on 'em.

Speaking of taxation... Anyone know if Hulksters are still exempt from
our repulsive Luxury Vehicle Tax?


alvey

[Noddy]

Post by Daryl Walford

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to have
'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

Why?

Yeah, I was wondering about that myself.

Post by Daryl Walford
They have specific applications where they excel such as heavy towing,
most smaller tow vehicles including Toyota Landcruiser have a max tow
rating of 3500kg, the F150 can tow 4500kg.
Many of large off road caravans can easily exceed the tow capacity of
3500kg rated vehicles so people who own large caravans need vehicles
with the higher tow rating.
2 of my friends have large caravans, one tows with a 70 series
Landcruiser, the other tows with a Mazda BT50, both are very close to
their max weight so they need to be careful with how much they weigh
overall, for example if they completely fill their caravan water tanks
they could be overweight.
No problem if the tow vehicle is an F150 or other US made utes with
4500kg towing capacity.
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are expensive
to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of vehicles for general
day to day use.
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise what
he sold.

Bloke around the corner from me has an F-150. His family hack is a Ford
Territory, but he uses the F-150 to tow his boat as he's a keen
fisherman and his boat is pretty large. Most days the F-150 spends it
time sitting parked in his back yard.

Still, if he wanted to use it as a daily that's *his* business. It
doesn't impact on me in the slightest, and people who complain about
other vehicles on the road being bigger than them are about as smart as
someone who buys a property on the boundary of an airport and then
whinges about the danger of a plane crashing into their house.

They're not smart, but then they don't see how their own choices impact
*them*.

[alvey]

Noddy wrote:


WARNING! Convenient Personal Anecdote Ahead!

Post by Noddy
Bloke around the corner from me has an F-150. His family hack is a Ford
Territory, but he uses the F-150 to tow his boat as he's a keen
fisherman and his boat is pretty large.

He can't be that keen if he's living in Bumhole (Vic).

Most days the F-150 spends it

Post by Noddy
time sitting parked in his back yard.
Still, if he wanted to use it as a daily that's *his* business. It
doesn't impact on me in the slightest, and people who complain about
other vehicles on the road being bigger than them are about as smart as
someone who buys a property on the boundary of an airport and then
whinges about the danger of a plane crashing into their house.

lol!
A memorably terrible analogy.

And one significant flaw in your rambling nonsense Buffo... If he takes
his behemoth out in *public* than it's not just "*his* business".

Post by Noddy
They're not smart, but then they don't see how their own choices impact
*them*.

And incredibly, you *still* utterly fail to see that you are a bumbling
buffoon.



alvey

[Clocky]

Post by Noddy

Post by Daryl Walford

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to have
'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

Why?

Yeah, I was wondering about that myself.

Post by Daryl Walford
They have specific applications where they excel such as heavy towing,
most smaller tow vehicles including Toyota Landcruiser have a max tow
rating of 3500kg, the F150 can tow 4500kg.
Many of large off road caravans can easily exceed the tow capacity of
3500kg rated vehicles so people who own large caravans need vehicles
with the higher tow rating.
2 of my friends have large caravans, one tows with a 70 series
Landcruiser, the other tows with a Mazda BT50, both are very close to
their max weight so they need to be careful with how much they weigh
overall, for example if they completely fill their caravan water tanks
they could be overweight.
No problem if the tow vehicle is an F150 or other US made utes with
4500kg towing capacity.
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are
expensive to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of vehicles
for general day to day use.
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise
what he sold.

Bloke around the corner from me has an F-150. His family hack is a Ford
Territory, but he uses the F-150 to tow his boat as he's a keen
fisherman a

Quite the concentration of dropkicks with crap vehicles around
neighbourhood. You fit right in.

[alvey]

Post by Daryl Walford

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The
fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to
stop than the car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please.
Provide the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The
level of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

I'd have said *pitiable*!
https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full-
Report22
which prompted this article;
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-is-everyone-buying-truckzillas-
that-are-too-big-for-our-streets-20230511-p5d7iy.html
   While driving recently, you may have noticed some huge vehicles
   on the road. Perhaps you’ve seen an enormous, shiny SUV too wide
   to fit in a turning lane, or maybe you’ve held your breath
   overtaking a vehicle that feels more like a tank than a normal
   car. This isn’t even hyperbole: the largest Toyota Hiluxes are
   now around the same size as the Sherman tanks used during World
   War II.
   Over the past few decades cars have grown a lot bigger, but
   with the introduction of the massive Dodge Ram and Ford F-150s,
   weighing in at up to three tonnes, we might have reached the
   absurd extreme. We know that everything is bigger in Texas, but
   now these huge SUVs and – to import another term from the US –
   “pickup trucks” are also hitting Australian streets in big
   numbers. They’re hard to miss: you’ll find them struggling to
   fit into car parks and overhanging into footpaths and bike lanes.
   It turns out that they’re not just an oversized annoyance,
   they’re also dangerous.
   Car crashes are now the leading cause of death of Australian
   children, and these monster trucks are their deadliest
   incarnation.
and
   The square shape and huge mass of these suburban tanks means
   that when they are involved in an accident, it’s much more
   likely to be a deadly one. In fact, one study found kids are
   eight times more likely to die when hit by a SUV compared to a
   normal passenger car.
and
   So why have these vehicles become more popular in Australia?
   For car manufacturers and dealers, the answer is easy: they
   make a lot more money selling truckzillas, which can cost into
   the six figures, than cheaper alternatives. Consumers have
   therefore seen a decline in smaller, lighter options.
   Pickup truck owners will often say their motivation is greater
   towing and loading capacity, but the truth is some people just
   like to feel big on the road. And the marketing reflects this,
   describing these colossal vehicles as the “apex predator[s] of
   the truck world”, that “eat everything else for breakfast”.
   The evidence shows that these vehicles aren’t always safer, and
   they’re more likely to be hauling a huge ego than a large load.
   Of course we will always need larger vehicles like removalist
   should people really be doing the school run in an oversized
   commercial truck?
These last two paragraphs have perfectly nailed Darren. For sure his
ego is *bloated*. Don't know why given the failure that his life has
been and the *insecurity* on show. But there he is, doing the daily
school run in his oversized commercial truck. No question mark needed
at the end of the usual *what’s he compensating for* trope. Everyone
knows what his truck is. It's a statement, a reflection on the size
of his penis and his desperate need to offset elsewhere. His lies and
fake claims to trade qualifications are compensation for his *career
failures* and his truck is a *physical* display of power to
compensate for his visible and non-visible deficiencies. This has now
become acute since Darren is well into middle-age, hence the recent
move from a Navara purchased used into a Ranger purchased new - all
in direct contrast with his previously espoused car buying fiscal
principles. That Darren's method of compensation is his large ute is
patently obvious because he has no real need for a *brand new large
truck* that is, at best, a *compromise*. A decent *trailer* would
suffice for carting anything up to the size of complete vehicles, and
he wouldn't be paying exorbitant commercial tollroad rates like he
will be in the Ranger. The Ranger suspension would be set up for load
carrying and the school run provides only for a loading of 1 kid,
hardly sufficient to *debounce* that suspension. A harsher ride 99%
of the time for sure and all because an ego needs swaddling. Hell, he
has a *truck* at home that would carry at least as much as his
Ranger, if not more, and it's much more suited to commercial needs.
I can do no better than end this on the summary to the above linked article;
   Road safety affects all of us, and we need to make our streets
   work for the most fragile bodies in our community, not the most
   fragile egos.

anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to have
'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

Why?
They have specific applications where they excel such as heavy towing,
most smaller tow vehicles including Toyota Landcruiser have a max tow
rating of 3500kg, the F150 can tow 4500kg.
Many of large off road caravans can easily exceed the tow capacity of
3500kg rated vehicles so people who own large caravans need vehicles
with the higher tow rating.

Terrific Deryl. The only problem with this attempt at justification is
the complete lack of even vaguely useful data.

Post by Daryl Walford
2 of my friends have large caravans, one tows with a 70 series
Landcruiser, the other tows with a Mazda BT50, both are very close to
their max weight so they need to be careful with how much they weigh
overall, for example if they completely fill their caravan water tanks
they could be overweight.
No problem if the tow vehicle is an F150 or other US made utes with
4500kg towing capacity.

So bigger is better. You don't realise that's the core argument?

Post by Daryl Walford
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are expensive
to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of vehicles for general
day to day use.

Well I confidently call bullshit on that. I live in a region that's both
a highly popular caravan *and* (outside) fishing hot spot, probably
about 100 times the frequency of your inland blandlands, and it is
*extremely* rare to see a Super Hulkster towing *anything*.

Post by Daryl Walford
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise what
he sold.

Annnnd there's the Deryl Basis of Proof stats model again! A sample
population of one.

Can't be surprised though. If Deryl had even a smidge of common sense he
wouldn't be hanging around with the Fraudster.



alvey

[Clocky]

Post by alvey

Post by Daryl Walford

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The
fact that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to
stop than the car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please.
Provide the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The
level of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

I'd have said *pitiable*!
https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full- Report22
which prompted this article;
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-is-everyone-buying-truckzillas-
that-are-too-big-for-our-streets-20230511-p5d7iy.html
   While driving recently, you may have noticed some huge vehicles
   on the road. Perhaps you’ve seen an enormous, shiny SUV too wide
   to fit in a turning lane, or maybe you’ve held your breath
   overtaking a vehicle that feels more like a tank than a normal
   car. This isn’t even hyperbole: the largest Toyota Hiluxes are
   now around the same size as the Sherman tanks used during World
   War II.
   Over the past few decades cars have grown a lot bigger, but
   with the introduction of the massive Dodge Ram and Ford F-150s,
   weighing in at up to three tonnes, we might have reached the
   absurd extreme. We know that everything is bigger in Texas, but
   now these huge SUVs and – to import another term from the US –
   “pickup trucks” are also hitting Australian streets in big
   numbers. They’re hard to miss: you’ll find them struggling to
   fit into car parks and overhanging into footpaths and bike lanes.
   It turns out that they’re not just an oversized annoyance,
   they’re also dangerous.
   Car crashes are now the leading cause of death of Australian
   children, and these monster trucks are their deadliest
   incarnation.
and
   The square shape and huge mass of these suburban tanks means
   that when they are involved in an accident, it’s much more
   likely to be a deadly one. In fact, one study found kids are
   eight times more likely to die when hit by a SUV compared to a
   normal passenger car.
and
   So why have these vehicles become more popular in Australia?
   For car manufacturers and dealers, the answer is easy: they
   make a lot more money selling truckzillas, which can cost into
   the six figures, than cheaper alternatives. Consumers have
   therefore seen a decline in smaller, lighter options.
   Pickup truck owners will often say their motivation is greater
   towing and loading capacity, but the truth is some people just
   like to feel big on the road. And the marketing reflects this,
   describing these colossal vehicles as the “apex predator[s] of
   the truck world”, that “eat everything else for breakfast”.
   The evidence shows that these vehicles aren’t always safer, and
   they’re more likely to be hauling a huge ego than a large load.
   Of course we will always need larger vehicles like removalist
   should people really be doing the school run in an oversized
   commercial truck?
These last two paragraphs have perfectly nailed Darren. For sure his
ego is *bloated*. Don't know why given the failure that his life has
been and the *insecurity* on show. But there he is, doing the daily
school run in his oversized commercial truck. No question mark
needed at the end of the usual *what’s he compensating for* trope.
Everyone knows what his truck is. It's a statement, a reflection on
the size of his penis and his desperate need to offset elsewhere.
His lies and fake claims to trade qualifications are compensation
for his *career failures* and his truck is a *physical* display of
power to compensate for his visible and non-visible deficiencies.
This has now become acute since Darren is well into middle-age,
hence the recent move from a Navara purchased used into a Ranger
purchased new - all in direct contrast with his previously espoused
car buying fiscal principles. That Darren's method of compensation
is his large ute is patently obvious because he has no real need for
a *brand new large truck* that is, at best, a *compromise*. A decent
*trailer* would suffice for carting anything up to the size of
complete vehicles, and he wouldn't be paying exorbitant commercial
tollroad rates like he will be in the Ranger. The Ranger suspension
would be set up for load carrying and the school run provides only
for a loading of 1 kid, hardly sufficient to *debounce* that
suspension. A harsher ride 99% of the time for sure and all because
an ego needs swaddling. Hell, he has a *truck* at home that would
carry at least as much as his Ranger, if not more, and it's much
more suited to commercial needs.
I can do no better than end this on the summary to the above linked article;
   Road safety affects all of us, and we need to make our streets
   work for the most fragile bodies in our community, not the most
   fragile egos.

anyone who buys one of those F150 things (or similar) needs to have
'dickhead' tattooed across their forehead

Why?
They have specific applications where they excel such as heavy towing,
most smaller tow vehicles including Toyota Landcruiser have a max tow
rating of 3500kg, the F150 can tow 4500kg.
Many of large off road caravans can easily exceed the tow capacity of
3500kg rated vehicles so people who own large caravans need vehicles
with the higher tow rating.

Terrific Deryl. The only problem with this attempt at justification is
the complete lack of even vaguely useful data.

Post by Daryl Walford
2 of my friends have large caravans, one tows with a 70 series
Landcruiser, the other tows with a Mazda BT50, both are very close to
their max weight so they need to be careful with how much they weigh
overall, for example if they completely fill their caravan water tanks
they could be overweight.
No problem if the tow vehicle is an F150 or other US made utes with
4500kg towing capacity.

So bigger is better. You don't realise that's the core argument?

Post by Daryl Walford
Just because you see someone driving around not towing or carrying a
heavy load doesn't mean that that is always the case, they are
expensive to buy and run so very few people buy they sort of vehicles
for general day to day use.

Well I confidently call bullshit on that. I live in a region that's both
a highly popular caravan *and* (outside) fishing hot spot, probably
about 100 times the frequency of your inland blandlands, and it is
*extremely* rare to see a Super Hulkster towing *anything*.

Same here living in a tourism hotspot, not a desolate wasteland.

Post by alvey

Post by Daryl Walford
Only person I know that used a big F Truck as a daily driver was the
owner of a business that sold F Trucks so he drove it to advertise
what he sold.

Annnnd there's the Deryl Basis of Proof stats model again! A sample
population of one.
Can't be surprised though. If Deryl had even a smidge of common sense he
wouldn't be hanging around with the Fraudster.

Yep.

[Noddy]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno
Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The level
of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

The only thing "laughable" here Felix is you believing you have some
special insight into why other people do what they do, when the reality
is that you barely manage to understand your *own* actions.

The more you post, the more of a total idiot you reveal yourself to be....

[Bon]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno
Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The level
of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

The only thing "laughable" here Felix is you believing you have some
special insight into why other people do what they do, when the reality
is that you barely manage to understand your *own* actions.
The more you post, the more of a total idiot you reveal yourself to be....

Speaking of "idiots", how are your phantom kids doing these days Fraudster?



alvey

[Clocky]

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Xeno
Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The level
of hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

it's laughable

The only thing "laughable" here Felix is you believing you have some
special insight into why other people do what they do, when the reality
is that you barely manage to understand your *own* actions.
The more you post, the more of a total idiot you reveal yourself to be....

For a bloke who can't remember having diabetes, can't remember his
height and can't remember how many kids he has... and made up
qualifications to feel important.

Onya cobber.

[alvey]

Post by Xeno

Post by alvey

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they
believe that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact
that it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than
the car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

And exactly what "mentality" would that be, Felix? Please. Provide
the findings of your studies.

And yet another unstoppable own goal by the Fraudster....

Don't you just love how he's *demanding proof* from Felix. The level of
hypocrisy Darren displays just beggars belief!

Yep. I think there's dollars to be made by organising a traveling
display of DATEs' hypocrisy.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to
get out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so
that they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could
easily pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the
accelerator (no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that
we're no longer going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then,
like as not, they'll pull back in and start tailgating the guy in
front who's going at the same speed I was previously. It's hard to
know what motivates such behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?

The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they believe
that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact that
it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than the
car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

and anecdotally... many years ago when 4wd's and SUV were nowhere near
as common as today, my accountant mentioned to me during a meeting that
he had just bought a 4WD hulkster. I replied that ppl who buy them are
arrogant, and so they can bully other road users, and he agreed!

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
And on tailgating... If you're not in the left most lane and someone
is sitting on your arse, get out of the way. If you don't, then all
you're achieving is raising blood pressures and the possibility of a
crash.
hth
alvey

[Xeno]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to
get out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so
that they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could
easily pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the
accelerator (no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that
we're no longer going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then,
like as not, they'll pull back in and start tailgating the guy in
front who's going at the same speed I was previously. It's hard to
know what motivates such behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?

The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they believe
that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact that
it'll take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than the
car they're tailgating never occurs to them.

also because of the mentality of those who buy those things

and anecdotally... many years ago when 4wd's and SUV were nowhere near
as common as today, my accountant mentioned to me during a meeting that
he had just bought a 4WD hulkster. I replied that ppl who buy them are
arrogant, and so they can bully other road users, and he agreed!

Arrogant? Maybe. Insecure? Most definitely!

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by alvey
And on tailgating... If you're not in the left most lane and someone
is sitting on your arse, get out of the way. If you don't, then all
you're achieving is raising blood pressures and the possibility of a
crash.
hth
alvey

[Sylvia Else]

Post by alvey

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to
get out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so
that they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could
easily pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the
accelerator (no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that
we're no longer going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like
as not, they'll pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front
who's going at the same speed I was previously. It's hard to know what
motivates such behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?

The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they believe
that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact that it'll
take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than the car they're
tailgating never occurs to them.
And on tailgating... If you're not in the left most lane and someone is
sitting on your arse, get out of the way. If you don't, then all you're
achieving is raising blood pressures and the possibility of a crash.

If someone's coming up behind, and I can comfortably move left, then I
will, even if I'm at the speed limit - I'm not the speed police. But in
heavy traffic I'm not going to squeeze into another lane just so that
some jerk can break the law.

Sylvia.

[alvey]

Post by Sylvia Else

Post by alvey

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to
get out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so
that they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could
easily pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the
accelerator (no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that
we're no longer going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like
as not, they'll pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front
who's going at the same speed I was previously. It's hard to know
what motivates such behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?

The Hulksters: Because they can see over the top of you they believe
that this justifies them sitting on your tailpipe. The fact that it'll
take their hideous vehicle many more metres to stop than the car
they're tailgating never occurs to them.
And on tailgating... If you're not in the left most lane and someone
is sitting on your arse, get out of the way. If you don't, then all
you're achieving is raising blood pressures and the possibility of a
crash.

If someone's coming up behind, and I can comfortably move left, then I
will,

Yes, that was implied.

Post by Sylvia Else
even if I'm at the speed limit - I'm not the speed police.

Unfortunately there are still shedloads of those 'Moral Majority' types
in Oz. Hardcore fundamentalists will even ignore polite headlight
flashing. Crucifixion is way too good for these righteous rectums.


alvey

[Noddy]

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to get
out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so that
they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could easily
pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the accelerator
(no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that we're no longer
going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like as not, they'll
pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front who's going at the
same speed I was previously. It's hard to know what motivates such
behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?

How long have you been driving now?

There's an old saying about tailgating that goes "If a single car is
tailgating you, then they're the problem. However if a whole line of
cars are doing it, then *you're* the problem".

[Keithr0]

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to get
out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so that
they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could easily
pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the accelerator
(no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that we're no longer
going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like as not, they'll
pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front who's going at the
same speed I was previously. It's hard to know what motivates such
behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?
Sylvia

I'm glad that nobody was tailgating me this morning. When you turn off
the main road into our suburb, there is about 500 metres of bush before
the houses start. A bush turkey came charging out of there going like a
rocket ship. I slammed the brakes on very hard out of pure reaction and
Mr Turkey avoided being turned into a pancake by millimetres. Had
somebody been tailgating, they would probably ended up in our back seat.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Keithr0

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to
get out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so
that they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could
easily pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the
accelerator (no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that
we're no longer going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like
as not, they'll pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front
who's going at the same speed I was previously. It's hard to know
what motivates such behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?
Sylvia

I'm glad that nobody was tailgating me this morning. When you turn off
the main road into our suburb, there is about 500 metres of bush
before the houses start. A bush turkey came charging out of there
going like a rocket ship. I slammed the brakes on very hard out of
pure reaction and Mr Turkey avoided being turned into a pancake by
millimetres. Had somebody been tailgating, they would probably ended
up in our back seat.

yesterday coming back from golf I passed about half a dozen dead kangas
on the roadside

[Xeno]

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to
get out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so
that they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could
easily pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the
accelerator (no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that
we're no longer going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then, like
as not, they'll pull back in and start tailgating the guy in front
who's going at the same speed I was previously. It's hard to know
what motivates such behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?
Sylvia

I'm glad that nobody was tailgating me this morning. When you turn off
the main road into our suburb, there is about 500 metres of bush
before the houses start. A bush turkey came charging out of there
going like a rocket ship. I slammed the brakes on very hard out of
pure reaction and Mr Turkey avoided being turned into a pancake by
millimetres. Had somebody been tailgating, they would probably ended
up in our back seat.

yesterday coming back from golf I passed about half a dozen dead kangas
on the roadside

Probably cleaned up by hulksters with bullbars, or large trucks.

[alvey]

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse

Post by Keithr0

Post by Sylvia Else
I've identified two kinds of tailgater.
This first, I dub the intimidator. This is the guy who wants you to
get out of the way, even though you're going at the speed limit, so
that they can go faster. Head light flashing can be indicative.
But at least they have a motive. The other kind I call the casual
tailgater. They sit five feet off your tail even when they could
easily pull out to overtake. My strategy is to take my foot off the
accelerator (no braking is involved). Eventually they notice that
we're no longer going very fast, and pull out to overtake. Then,
like as not, they'll pull back in and start tailgating the guy in
front who's going at the same speed I was previously. It's hard to
know what motivates such behaviour.
Any other kinds of tailgater I should be aware of?
Sylvia

I'm glad that nobody was tailgating me this morning. When you turn
off the main road into our suburb, there is about 500 metres of bush
before the houses start. A bush turkey came charging out of there
going like a rocket ship. I slammed the brakes on very hard out of
pure reaction and Mr Turkey avoided being turned into a pancake by
millimetres. Had somebody been tailgating, they would probably ended
up in our back seat.

yesterday coming back from golf I passed about half a dozen dead
kangas on the roadside

Probably cleaned up by hulksters with bullbars, or large trucks.

Well there's history of that. Remember that hulkster driving rural
Dictorian who deliberately ran down emus?



alvey

[Computer Nerd Kev]

Post by Keithr0
I'm glad that nobody was tailgating me this morning. When you turn off
the main road into our suburb, there is about 500 metres of bush before
the houses start. A bush turkey came charging out of there going like a
rocket ship. I slammed the brakes on very hard out of pure reaction and
Mr Turkey avoided being turned into a pancake by millimetres. Had
somebody been tailgating, they would probably ended up in our back seat.

That's my problem driving down long stretches of road through the
bush, especially at peak roo times. I slow down so there's a better
chance of braking before a suicidal roo, but then someone comes up
behind who doesn't care and frustratedly tailgates because there's
no place to overtake on the twisty road. Then if a roo does jump
out, I might not hit it but I'll likely get hit by the car behind,
so I give up and speed up before they get too close behind me.

[Mighty Mouse]

Post by Computer Nerd Kev

Post by Keithr0
I'm glad that nobody was tailgating me this morning. When you turn off
the main road into our suburb, there is about 500 metres of bush before
the houses start. A bush turkey came charging out of there going like a
rocket ship. I slammed the brakes on very hard out of pure reaction and
Mr Turkey avoided being turned into a pancake by millimetres. Had
somebody been tailgating, they would probably ended up in our back seat.

That's my problem driving down long stretches of road through the
bush, especially at peak roo times. I slow down so there's a better
chance of braking before a suicidal roo, but then someone comes up
behind who doesn't care and frustratedly tailgates because there's
no place to overtake on the twisty road. Then if a roo does jump
out, I might not hit it but I'll likely get hit by the car behind,
so I give up and speed up before they get too close behind me.

that's a problem. but if someone is tailgating me, and they're able to
pass, I just keep slowing down