news individual problems

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out, not
loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or my ISP.

I haven't been having any issues with News.Individual as such. Have been
having issues with TBird however. Just updated TBird to Ver. 128.x.x
Might make a difference, just have to wait and see. Newstap app on phone
and iPad have had no issues with News.Individual as far as I can tell.

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Mighty Mouse

2024-08-21 09:31:50 UTC

Post by Xeno

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or
my ISP.

I haven't been having any issues with News.Individual as such. Have
been having issues with TBird however. Just updated TBird to Ver. 128.x.x
Might make a difference, just have to wait and see. Newstap app on
phone and iPad have had no issues with News.Individual as far as I can
tell.

Ok, thanks

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Keithr0

2024-08-21 09:53:40 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out, not
loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts sometimes
just disappear.

Noddy

2024-08-21 11:22:57 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out, not
loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts sometimes
just disappear.

Eternal September is having the same issues. Or at least it seems to be.
It's a toss up between it and Thunderbird. Both are hopeless :)

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Petzl

2024-08-21 20:36:31 UTC

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out, not
loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts sometimes
just disappear.

Eternal September is having the same issues. Or at least it seems to be.
It's a toss up between it and Thunderbird. Both are hopeless :)

I'm using "news individual net" via Testra NBN.
Not noticed anything
Though about once a day over the last five days I get
"unable to connect" but comes right after a few seconds.
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Horseshit - Nonsense
Apeshit - Rambunctious
Batshit - Insane
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Ratshit - poor quality
No shit - Obviously
Holy shit - mind blowing/unbelievable
Hot shit - very good
Dipshit - a total dumbass
Tuff shit - Take it or leave it.
Jack shit - nothing
The shit - perfection

jonz

2024-08-22 01:26:39 UTC

Post by Noddy

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or
my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

Eternal September is having the same issues. Or at least it seems to
be. It's a toss up between it and Thunderbird. Both are hopeless :)

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I`m using the same, no probs. here. Except being a bit slow occasionally.

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Daryl

2024-08-21 11:33:06 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out, not
loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts sometimes
just disappear.

No problem here that I've noticed but couldn't get it to work on my
laptop when we went away for a week in August, its worked OK previously
on the laptop.

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Mighty Mouse

2024-08-21 13:48:36 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or
my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

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Keithr0

2024-08-21 21:33:10 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or
my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

Daryl

2024-08-22 00:48:51 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or
my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN, no issue on my main computer but it was
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even time I
open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username and password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

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jonz

2024-08-22 01:37:51 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them
or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN, no issue on my main computer but it was
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even time
I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username and
password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Under server settings, tick "always request authorisation"..

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Gary R. Schmidt

2024-08-22 04:29:24 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them
or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

Because you haven't told it to remember it - there's a check-box when it
asks. (Well, there was the last time I set up a new TB. :-) )

Cheers,
Gary B-)

Daryl

2024-08-22 05:55:12 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them
or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN, no issue on my main computer but it was
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even time
I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username and
password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Because you haven't told it to remember it - there's a check-box when it
asks. (Well, there was the last time I set up a new TB. :-) )
Cheers,
Gary B-)

Except I did tick the box but that doesn't seem to be working, when I go
to saved passwords there is nothing saved.

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jonz

2024-08-23 02:28:58 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing
out, not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem
with them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN, no issue on my main computer but it was
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even
time I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username
and password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Because you haven't told it to remember it - there's a check-box when
it asks. (Well, there was the last time I set up a new TB. :-) )
Cheers,
Gary B-)

Except I did tick the box but that doesn't seem to be working, when I
go to saved passwords there is nothing saved.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In Netscape Server settings, tick 'always request authorisation'...

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Daryl

2024-08-23 05:24:10 UTC

Post by jonz

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing
out, not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem
with them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN, no issue on my main computer but it was
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even
time I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username
and password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Because you haven't told it to remember it - there's a check-box when
it asks. (Well, there was the last time I set up a new TB. :-) )
Cheers,
Gary B-)

Except I did tick the box but that doesn't seem to be working, when I
go to saved passwords there is nothing saved.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In Netscape Server settings, tick 'always request authorisation'...

I'll give that a try but it seems to be opposite of what I need.

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Gary R. Schmidt

2024-08-23 03:14:13 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing
out, not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with
them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN, no issue on my main computer but it was
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even time
I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username and
password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Because you haven't told it to remember it - there's a check-box when
it asks. (Well, there was the last time I set up a new TB. :-) )
Cheers,
Gary B-)

Except I did tick the box but that doesn't seem to be working, when I go
to saved passwords there is nothing saved.

Ah, ask in alt.comp.software.thunderbird, someone there might know the fix.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

Daryl

2024-08-23 05:24:34 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing
out, not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem
with them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN, no issue on my main computer but it was
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even
time I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username
and password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Because you haven't told it to remember it - there's a check-box when
it asks. (Well, there was the last time I set up a new TB. :-) )
Cheers,
Gary B-)

Except I did tick the box but that doesn't seem to be working, when I
go to saved passwords there is nothing saved.

Ah, ask in alt.comp.software.thunderbird, someone there might know the fix.
Cheers,
Gary B-)

Okay thanks.

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Petzl

2024-08-23 21:46:32 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing
out, not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem
with them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN, no issue on my main computer but it was
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even
time I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username
and password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Because you haven't told it to remember it - there's a check-box when
it asks. (Well, there was the last time I set up a new TB. :-) )
Cheers,
Gary B-)

Except I did tick the box but that doesn't seem to be working, when I
go to saved passwords there is nothing saved.

Ah, ask in alt.comp.software.thunderbird, someone there might know the fix.
Cheers,
Gary B-)

Okay thanks.

I've found my browsers gives a warning top right of screen
save password
if you miss it unless you go here firefox maybe same?
for Thunderbird?
opera://password-manager/passwords
then add to password

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propaganda isn't just about creating fake news.
it's also about hiding real news.

Daryl

2024-08-23 23:46:52 UTC

Post by Petzl

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing
out, not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem
with them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN, no issue on my main computer but it was
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even
time I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username
and password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Because you haven't told it to remember it - there's a check-box when
it asks. (Well, there was the last time I set up a new TB. :-) )
Cheers,
Gary B-)

Except I did tick the box but that doesn't seem to be working, when I
go to saved passwords there is nothing saved.

Ah, ask in alt.comp.software.thunderbird, someone there might know the fix.
Cheers,
Gary B-)

Okay thanks.

I've found my browsers gives a warning top right of screen
save password
if you miss it unless you go here firefox maybe same?
for Thunderbird?
opera://password-manager/passwords
then add to password

I'll look for that next time I try the laptop.

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Clocky

2024-08-22 20:39:46 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them
or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN,

Internode are iiNet which in turn are owned by TPG. TPG are rolling
Internode into iiNet and in due course they will probably all be wound
into one brand - TPG.

no issue on my main computer but it was

Post by Daryl
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even time I
open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username and password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Works fine here.

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Mighty Mouse

2024-08-22 23:22:18 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing
out, not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with
them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN,

Post by Daryl
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even time
I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username and
password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Works fine here.

obviously he hasn't stored them in TB

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Clocky

2024-08-23 01:29:22 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing
out, not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with
them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN,

Post by Daryl
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even time
I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username and
password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Works fine here.

obviously he hasn't stored them in TB

Yep, user error.

Mighty Mouse

2024-08-23 01:46:35 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing
out, not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem
with them or my ISP.

Same here, I usually have to try twice to get messages, posts
sometimes just disappear.

what ISP are you with?

TPG

I'm with Internode on NBN,

Internode are iiNet which in turn are owned by TPG. TPG are rolling
Internode into iiNet and in due course they will probably all be
wound into one brand - TPG.
no issue on my main computer but it was

Post by Daryl
acting weird on my laptop, most likely a problem with Thunderbird.
I reinstalled Thunderbird and it works fine now except that even
time I open Thunderbird I get asked for my News.Individual username
and password?
I've gone through all the settings but can't find any reason why it
always asks for a password.

Works fine here.

obviously he hasn't stored them in TB

Yep, user error.

PEBKAC

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Gary R. Schmidt

2024-08-21 14:25:35 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out, not
loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or my ISP.

No problems here - but I use Leafnode to pull things down and serve them
using NNTP, and it's designed to be quite fault tolerant, so things that
might break a news-reader don't affect it.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

Trevor Wilson

2024-08-21 23:32:37 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out, not
loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or my ISP.

**Yep.

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Mighty Mouse

2024-08-22 00:17:37 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or
my ISP.

**Yep.

who's your ISP?

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Trevor Wilson

2024-08-22 04:07:56 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or
my ISP.

**Yep.

who's your ISP?

**Telstra.

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Mighty Mouse

2024-08-22 08:46:19 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them
or my ISP.

**Yep.

who's your ISP?

**Telstra.

I'm with Exetel, so I guess I can rule out it being a ISP issue then.
Keith is having probs too and he's with TPG

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Trevor Wilson

2024-08-22 22:00:29 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them
or my ISP.

**Yep.

who's your ISP?

**Telstra.

I'm with Exetel, so I guess I can rule out it being a ISP issue then.
Keith is having probs too and he's with TPG

**I reckon you are correct. The problem likely lies with the News-service.

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2024-08-25 05:56:10 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out, not
loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or my ISP.

I eventually got off my arse and did some tests. First I knocked up a
simple program to download headers from Individual dot net. That ran
with no problem.

The next step was to run WireShark to see what Chunderturd was actually
doing. The symptom that I get when trying to download new messages is
that when I click the download button, a progress bar appears in the
bottom right hand corner, it stays there for about 30 seconds then just
disappears. Clicking the download button again gets the messages properly.

The way to get messages is to make a TCP/IP connection, send user name
and password then send a command to select the news group. The reply
from that command contains the message numbers of the first and last
messages in the group. With that information a command can be sent to
download all outstanding headers.

What I saw was, on the first click, Chunderturd just sent group command
without first establishing a connection. After that timed out clicking
again caused it to do a correct sequence and download the headers.

The upshot is that the problem is in Chunderturd thinking that it is
already in a session when it isn't.

Mighty Mouse

2024-08-25 07:09:52 UTC

Post by Mighty Mouse
anyone else besides me having problems with them? viz. timing out,
not loading posts, etc., I don't know if it's a problem with them or
my ISP.

I eventually got off my arse and did some tests. First I knocked up a
simple program to download headers from Individual dot net. That ran
with no problem.
The next step was to run WireShark to see what Chunderturd was
actually doing. The symptom that I get when trying to download new
messages is that when I click the download button, a progress bar
appears in the bottom right hand corner, it stays there for about 30
seconds then just disappears. Clicking the download button again gets
the messages properly.
The way to get messages is to make a TCP/IP connection, send user name
and password then send a command to select the news group. The reply
from that command contains the message numbers of the first and last
messages in the group. With that information a command can be sent to
download all outstanding headers.
What I saw was, on the first click, Chunderturd just sent group
command without first establishing a connection. After that timed out
clicking again caused it to do a correct sequence and download the
headers.
The upshot is that the problem is in Chunderturd thinking that it is
already in a session when it isn't.

you should post that on mozilla groups. someone might fix it

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Gary R. Schmidt

2024-08-25 12:28:51 UTC