road ranger

Post by SS49
I have seen quite a few job ads for truck drivers and quite often they state
"must have road ranger experience" whats a road ranger and why must you be
experienced.

The old rangers were anywhere from 9 to 15 forward speed and no syncros
.. bit of an art to driving them , easiest way is use the clutch for
stopping and starting and give the left leg a rest in between .
then of course you get additional Joey boxes and splitters and well you
get the idea.
The newer boxes are just like a car and any cowboy can use one.

Ratbag

2005-10-17 13:38:18 UTC

A Road ranger is a fairly Complex 13, 15 or 18 speed gearbox, I think they are mostly non-synchromesh gears.

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Spankalogical Protocol

2005-10-17 13:39:09 UTC

Post by SS49
I have seen quite a few job ads for truck drivers and quite often they state
"must have road ranger experience" whats a road ranger and why must you be
experienced.

Are you familiar with the Simpson's episode where Homer drove the 18
wheeler?

reg-john

2005-10-17 21:37:15 UTC

no synchromesh
4 forward gear gates, 1 reverse gate, 1 crawler gear forward gate.

R13
C24

like that

there is a high and low range. so the gear progression would be from
1,2,3,4, then select high ratio and change to the 1st position for 5th gear,
and then 6,7,8 like 2,3,4. each of these gears can be split, to give you a
spot 200revs between any of these gears, instead of the usual 400rev between
the regular gears. so its really only a crash 4 gate box, double shuffle on
upchanges, match revs on downchanges.

reverse has high and low, no split.
crawler has high and low, no split

thats an 18 speed eaton fuller roadranger. there are other variants like
others have said. these ar ethe ones mainly used in semis, its rare to cop
an 18speed in a rigid these days, but if its gvm is massive it may happen.

Post by SS49
I have seen quite a few job ads for truck drivers and quite often they
state "must have road ranger experience" whats a road ranger and why must
you be experienced.

SS49

2005-10-19 00:47:47 UTC

Post by reg-john
no synchromesh
4 forward gear gates, 1 reverse gate, 1 crawler gear forward gate.
R13
C24
like that
there is a high and low range. so the gear progression would be from
1,2,3,4, then select high ratio and change to the 1st position for 5th
gear, and then 6,7,8 like 2,3,4. each of these gears can be split, to give
you a spot 200revs between any of these gears, instead of the usual 400rev
between the regular gears. so its really only a crash 4 gate box, double
shuffle on upchanges, match revs on downchanges.
reverse has high and low, no split.
crawler has high and low, no split
thats an 18 speed eaton fuller roadranger. there are other variants like
others have said. these ar ethe ones mainly used in semis, its rare to cop
an 18speed in a rigid these days, but if its gvm is massive it may happen.

Any particular reason for this type of gearbox . I should imagine it would
be harsh on the gearbox with no syncomesh.

Dan---

2005-10-19 01:43:31 UTC

Post by SS49
Any particular reason for this type of gearbox . I should imagine it would
be harsh on the gearbox with no syncomesh.

Not really once you get the teqnique right on how to change gears they
whould be ok. Its a bad driver on a good gearbox causes the harm. :-)

--
Regards
Dan.

Kev

2005-10-19 02:11:30 UTC

Any particular reason for this type of gearbox . I should imagine it would
be harsh on the gearbox with no syncomesh.

only if driven like a gearbox with syncromesh

as long as the gearbox and engine speeds match while changing there is
no problem
trucks with synco boxes are slower on the gear changes as the syncros
have to slow the box speed, the gearbox internals weigh around 100kg, a
lot of spinning weight to slow down(or speed up) to get the gears to
mesh

but I can live with slower changes as I hate crash boxes, too much work
involved

Kev

D Walford

2005-10-19 05:04:31 UTC

Any particular reason for this type of gearbox

They are cheap to buy and rebuild compared to a synco box.

. I should imagine it would

Post by SS49
be harsh on the gearbox with no syncomesh.

Not if the driver knows how to use it properly, they are very strong and
last a lot of klms.

Daryl

FowlFred

2005-10-19 13:03:37 UTC

Post by reg-john
no synchromesh
4 forward gear gates, 1 reverse gate, 1 crawler gear forward gate.
R13
C24
like that
there is a high and low range. so the gear progression would be from
1,2,3,4, then select high ratio and change to the 1st position for 5th
gear, and then 6,7,8 like 2,3,4. each of these gears can be split, to
give you a spot 200revs between any of these gears, instead of the usual
400rev between the regular gears. so its really only a crash 4 gate box,
double shuffle on upchanges, match revs on downchanges.
reverse has high and low, no split.
crawler has high and low, no split
thats an 18 speed eaton fuller roadranger. there are other variants like
others have said. these ar ethe ones mainly used in semis, its rare to
cop an 18speed in a rigid these days, but if its gvm is massive it may
happen.

Any particular reason for this type of gearbox . I should imagine it would
be harsh on the gearbox with no syncomesh.

They last longer and are cheaper to rebuild than syncro boxes.

Once the technique is learnt they are magic to drive. Changes are quick and
when you get REAL good, the clutch becomes optional accept for taking off
from stopped.

Heal-and-toe braking and down shifting, so sweet when you get it just right
:)

At least it gives you something to think about while you drive, but after a
while you can do it in your sleep......

Fred

atec

2005-10-19 13:53:36 UTC

Post by FowlFred

Post by reg-john
no synchromesh
4 forward gear gates, 1 reverse gate, 1 crawler gear forward gate.
R13
C24
like that
there is a high and low range. so the gear progression would be from
1,2,3,4, then select high ratio and change to the 1st position for 5th
gear, and then 6,7,8 like 2,3,4. each of these gears can be split, to
give you a spot 200revs between any of these gears, instead of the usual
400rev between the regular gears. so its really only a crash 4 gate box,
double shuffle on upchanges, match revs on downchanges.
reverse has high and low, no split.
crawler has high and low, no split
thats an 18 speed eaton fuller roadranger. there are other variants like
others have said. these ar ethe ones mainly used in semis, its rare to
cop an 18speed in a rigid these days, but if its gvm is massive it may
happen.

Any particular reason for this type of gearbox . I should imagine it would
be harsh on the gearbox with no syncomesh.

They last longer and are cheaper to rebuild than syncro boxes.
Once the technique is learnt they are magic to drive. Changes are quick and
when you get REAL good, the clutch becomes optional accept for taking off
from stopped.
Heal-and-toe braking and down shifting, so sweet when you get it just right
:)
At least it gives you something to think about while you drive, but after a
while you can do it in your sleep......
Fred

Bloke that taught me made me drive an old shite box leyland for a week (
this was about late 1960 something ) , then the rangee and every time I
tried to use the clutch in the Inter he would smack my head with the
back his hand , coupla miles and I got the idea . Still have a flinch at
times though .

FowlFred

2005-10-20 08:32:29 UTC

Post by reg-john
no synchromesh
4 forward gear gates, 1 reverse gate, 1 crawler gear forward gate.
R13
C24
like that
there is a high and low range. so the gear progression would be from
1,2,3,4, then select high ratio and change to the 1st position for 5th
gear, and then 6,7,8 like 2,3,4. each of these gears can be split, to
give you a spot 200revs between any of these gears, instead of the usual
400rev between the regular gears. so its really only a crash 4 gate box,
double shuffle on upchanges, match revs on downchanges.
reverse has high and low, no split.
crawler has high and low, no split
thats an 18 speed eaton fuller roadranger. there are other variants like
others have said. these ar ethe ones mainly used in semis, its rare to
cop an 18speed in a rigid these days, but if its gvm is massive it may
happen.

Any particular reason for this type of gearbox . I should imagine it
would be harsh on the gearbox with no syncomesh.

They last longer and are cheaper to rebuild than syncro boxes.
Once the technique is learnt they are magic to drive. Changes are quick
and when you get REAL good, the clutch becomes optional accept for taking
off from stopped.
Heal-and-toe braking and down shifting, so sweet when you get it just
right :)
At least it gives you something to think about while you drive, but after
a while you can do it in your sleep......
Fred

Bloke that taught me made me drive an old shite box leyland for a week (
this was about late 1960 something ) , then the rangee and every time I
tried to use the clutch in the Inter he would smack my head with the back
his hand , coupla miles and I got the idea . Still have a flinch at times
though .

Lol !!!

Dan---

2005-10-17 23:34:20 UTC

Post by SS49
I have seen quite a few job ads for truck drivers and quite often they state
"must have road ranger experience" whats a road ranger and why must you be
experienced.

Do a google search about it tons of info there. :-)

--
Regards
Dan.

veritas

2005-10-18 01:52:14 UTC

Post by SS49
I have seen quite a few job ads for truck drivers and quite often they state
"must have road ranger experience" whats a road ranger and why must you be
experienced.

I can only add - if a job seeker doesn't know what a road-ranger is - don't even bother applying. More so if they
mention a Mack quad box. Left hand needed to shift the 4 speed main box with the right hand (simultaneously) to shift
the 3 speed splitter box (next to the main box lever on the left) while steering the (non power steering) truck with
ones right elbow/arm through the spokes :)

PS: Deutz was a two handed effort too! 6 speed main with 2 speed splitter.

I often wonder what modern truckies do for entertainment to keep them awake? :)

D Walford

2005-10-18 03:38:22 UTC

Post by SS49
I have seen quite a few job ads for truck drivers and quite often they
state "must have road ranger experience" whats a road ranger and why
must you be experienced.

I can only add - if a job seeker doesn't know what a road-ranger is -
don't even bother applying. More so if they mention a Mack quad box.
Left hand needed to shift the 4 speed main box with the right hand
(simultaneously) to shift the 3 speed splitter box (next to the main box
lever on the left) while steering the (non power steering) truck with
ones right elbow/arm through the spokes :)
PS: Deutz was a two handed effort too! 6 speed main with 2 speed splitter.
I often wonder what modern truckies do for entertainment to keep them awake? :)

They certainly won't be playing with gearbox's designed by the devil:-)
With up to 600hp gearchanging isn't needed as often as it used to be.
I was talking to a truckie at a bedding company I was delivering to last
week and his job was to deliver mattresses from Melb to Syd, he was
driving a 560hp Iveco with a single trailer which when fully loaded
carried no more than 7 tonne, once he got into top gear on the highway
he didn't need to change gears again until he got to where he was going:-)

Daryl

veritas

2005-10-18 04:41:21 UTC

Post by D Walford

Post by SS49
I have seen quite a few job ads for truck drivers and quite often
they state "must have road ranger experience" whats a road ranger and
why must you be experienced.

I can only add - if a job seeker doesn't know what a road-ranger is -
don't even bother applying. More so if they mention a Mack quad box.
Left hand needed to shift the 4 speed main box with the right hand
(simultaneously) to shift the 3 speed splitter box (next to the main
box lever on the left) while steering the (non power steering) truck
with ones right elbow/arm through the spokes :)
PS: Deutz was a two handed effort too! 6 speed main with 2 speed splitter.
I often wonder what modern truckies do for entertainment to keep them awake? :)

Yeah - bloody today's nancey's. 'specially when one remembers the 'old' road. 'specially around Tarcutta as well as
the range north of Goulburn AND those bloody suicide single lane bridges with trucks that took right-of-way simply
because they couldn't stop anyhow! :)

Have to say - it is a nice bit of highway - now.......

D Walford

2005-10-18 07:56:23 UTC

Post by D Walford
They certainly won't be playing with gearbox's designed by the devil:-)
With up to 600hp gearchanging isn't needed as often as it used to be.
I was talking to a truckie at a bedding company I was delivering to
last week and his job was to deliver mattresses from Melb to Syd, he
was driving a 560hp Iveco with a single trailer which when fully
loaded carried no more than 7 tonne, once he got into top gear on the
highway he didn't need to change gears again until he got to where he
was going:-)

Yeah - bloody today's nancey's. 'specially when one remembers the 'old'
road. 'specially around Tarcutta as well as the range north of Goulburn
AND those bloody suicide single lane bridges with trucks that took
right-of-way simply because they couldn't stop anyhow! :)
Have to say - it is a nice bit of highway - now.......

I have an uncle who drove trucks interstate for 34yrs, when you consider
how good the highways are now its hard to believe that a Melb Syd return
trip in the 60's would take a week.

Daryl

Kev

2005-10-18 12:52:47 UTC

Post by D Walford

Post by SS49
I have seen quite a few job ads for truck drivers and quite often they
state "must have road ranger experience" whats a road ranger and why
must you be experienced.

I can only add - if a job seeker doesn't know what a road-ranger is -
don't even bother applying. More so if they mention a Mack quad box.
Left hand needed to shift the 4 speed main box with the right hand
(simultaneously) to shift the 3 speed splitter box (next to the main box
lever on the left) while steering the (non power steering) truck with
ones right elbow/arm through the spokes :)
PS: Deutz was a two handed effort too! 6 speed main with 2 speed splitter.
I often wonder what modern truckies do for entertainment to keep them awake? :)

Daryl

What's the only thing wrong with having 600HP and a single trailer?

?

?

NOTHING!!!!!!!!!

Kev

D Walford

2005-10-19 05:02:25 UTC

Post by Kev
What's the only thing wrong with having 600HP and a single trailer?

Convincing the boss to buy me one would be difficult though:-)

Daryl

D Walford

2005-10-18 03:30:27 UTC

Post by SS49
I have seen quite a few job ads for truck drivers and quite often they state
"must have road ranger experience" whats a road ranger and why must you be
experienced.

A Road Ranger is a very common gearbox in large trucks with American
drivelines.
Not much employing someone to do job when they can't operate the
equipment supplied so if the employer has road ranger equipped trucks
they need drivers experienced with that gearbox.
Personally I don't like those gearboxes I prefer the 16spd ZF in my DAF.

Daryl

crazy ron bakir

2005-10-19 08:19:27 UTC