Discussion:
Japan is still the biggest source of car imports.
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Keithr0
2024-12-30 00:17:25 UTC
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Daryl
2024-12-30 01:40:36 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-the-
star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
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Clocky
2024-12-30 01:59:22 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-the-
star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
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On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
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Keithr0
2024-12-30 11:15:15 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-the-
star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
Clocky
2024-12-30 11:40:22 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Xeno
2024-12-30 11:42:52 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them for
a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any grief.
Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks he's making
a killing on the depreciation saving.
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Clocky
2024-12-30 11:48:32 UTC
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Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them for
a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any grief.
Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks he's making
a killing on the depreciation saving.
Boy is that ever a false economy...

[cue dopey Daryl with his irrelevant sample size telling us how reliable
the cheap German rubbish he owns is]
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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Xeno
2024-12-30 13:06:03 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any grief.
Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks he's
making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Boy is that ever a false economy...
If ya got it, flaunt it!
Post by Clocky
[cue dopey Daryl with his irrelevant sample size telling us how reliable
the cheap German rubbish he owns is]
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MightyMouse
2024-12-30 13:34:45 UTC
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Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any grief.
Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks he's
making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
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Noddy
2024-12-30 21:27:01 UTC
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Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
There is nothing wrong with buying a second hand car Felix. Not everyone
can afford new, and there are some great savings to be made in buying
slightly used. Not all cars are automatically destined to become lemons
just because they get older either, and some people would rather buy a
used "good" car than a "shit" new one.

Take your case for example. You bought the cheapest new car you could
find because you subscribe to the view that "new is best. If that's what
you like then good on you, but the strange thing about it is that at the
time you bought it you knew virtually nothing about the car or it's
track record, and already had a decent car which in the opinion of some
was a better vehicle.

For the same money you could have had a 3 or 4 year old Toyota Camry,
which is a car with a stellar reputation that would absolutely shit all
over the MG you have now and still be running fine when your MG is dead
and buried.

But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car. Given the
choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry. Myself
included.
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Daryl
2024-12-30 22:00:44 UTC
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Post by MightyMouse
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
There is nothing wrong with buying a second hand car Felix. Not everyone
can afford new, and there are some great savings to be made in buying
slightly used. Not all cars are automatically destined to become lemons
just because they get older either, and some people would rather buy a
used "good" car than a "shit" new one.
Take your case for example. You bought the cheapest new car you could
find because you subscribe to the view that "new is best. If that's what
you like then good on you, but the strange thing about it is that at the
time you bought it you knew virtually nothing about the car or it's
track record, and already had a decent car which in the opinion of some
was a better vehicle.
For the same money you could have had a 3 or 4 year old Toyota Camry,
which is a car with a stellar reputation that would absolutely shit all
over the MG you have now and still be running fine when your MG is dead
and buried.
But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car. Given the
choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry. Myself
included.
100% agree, a 3-4 yr old low km Camry or Corolla or any other Japanese
brand car would be lights years ahead of any new Chinese car.
Same for a similar age SH Korean car, they aren't far off the Japanese
and still decades ahead of anything Chinese.
If it were a car for me I'd buy a 10yr old Benz long before I'd buy a
new MG.
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Xeno
2024-12-30 22:54:37 UTC
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Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
Post by MightyMouse
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
There is nothing wrong with buying a second hand car Felix. Not everyone
can afford new, and there are some great savings to be made in buying
slightly used. Not all cars are automatically destined to become lemons
just because they get older either, and some people would rather buy a
used "good" car than a "shit" new one.
Take your case for example. You bought the cheapest new car you could
find because you subscribe to the view that "new is best. If that's what
you like then good on you, but the strange thing about it is that at the
time you bought it you knew virtually nothing about the car or it's
track record, and already had a decent car which in the opinion of some
was a better vehicle.
For the same money you could have had a 3 or 4 year old Toyota Camry,
which is a car with a stellar reputation that would absolutely shit all
over the MG you have now and still be running fine when your MG is dead
and buried.
But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car. Given the
choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry. Myself
included.
100% agree, a 3-4 yr old low km Camry or Corolla or any other Japanese
brand car would be lights years ahead of any new Chinese car.
Same for a similar age SH Korean car, they aren't far off the Japanese
and still decades ahead of anything Chinese.
If it were a car for me I'd buy a 10yr old Benz long before I'd buy a
new MG.
Just try to buy a 3-4 year old Camry or Corolla *cheap*. There’s such a
demand for them you’re better off buying new.

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Noddy
2024-12-30 23:12:38 UTC
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Post by Noddy
But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car. Given the
choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry. Myself
included.
100% agree, a 3-4 yr old low km Camry or Corolla or any other Japanese
brand car would be lights years ahead of any new Chinese car.
Same for a similar age SH Korean car, they aren't far off the Japanese
and still decades ahead of anything Chinese.
If it were a car for me I'd buy a 10yr old Benz long before I'd buy a
new MG.
I'm inclined to agree. I wouldn't be interested in a Chinese car of any
kind as they have some way to go before they could be considered
"quality vehicles" in the same way Korean or Japanese vehicles are.

Some people like them though, and good on them if they do. It's their money.
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Xeno
2024-12-31 00:00:58 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car. Given the
choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry. Myself
included.
100% agree, a 3-4 yr old low km Camry or Corolla or any other Japanese
brand car would be lights years ahead of any new Chinese car.
Same for a similar age SH Korean car, they aren't far off the Japanese
and still decades ahead of anything Chinese.
If it were a car for me I'd buy a 10yr old Benz long before I'd buy a
new MG.
I'm inclined to agree. I wouldn't be interested in a Chinese car of any
kind as they have some way to go before they could be considered
"quality vehicles" in the same way Korean or Japanese vehicles are.
Some people like them though, and good on them if they do. It's their money.
So why hang shit on Felix? His money, his choice.
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MightyMouse
2024-12-31 00:48:55 UTC
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Post by Xeno
Post by Noddy
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car. Given
the choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry.
Myself included.
100% agree, a 3-4 yr old low km Camry or Corolla or any other
Japanese brand car would be lights years ahead of any new Chinese car.
Same for a similar age SH Korean car, they aren't far off the
Japanese and still decades ahead of anything Chinese.
If it were a car for me I'd buy a 10yr old Benz long before I'd buy
a new MG.
I'm inclined to agree. I wouldn't be interested in a Chinese car of
any kind as they have some way to go before they could be considered
"quality vehicles" in the same way Korean or Japanese vehicles are.
Some people like them though, and good on them if they do. It's their money.
So why hang shit on Felix?
cos he likes to  :)  same as keefy
Post by Xeno
His money, his choice.
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Noddy
2024-12-31 01:17:25 UTC
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Post by Xeno
So why hang shit on Felix?
cos he likes to  :)  same as keefy
Felix, enough.

Short of these last couple of days I haven't said boo to you in some
time, and have been quite happy about that. I saw your post about
building a new machine and you replied to me a couple of times so I
returned the favour. In doing so I have not said *one thing* that could
remotely be considered derogatory or insulting, or attacked you in any
way whatsoever. All I've done is replied to you in a normal
conversational way where I have agreed with you in some instances and
disagreed in others.

I'm not looking for an argument with you, as past experience has shown
that to be an exercise in futility. If you're looking for that then I'm
sure Keith will keep you entertained as he seems just as keen to repeat
the same rubbish day after day as you are.

I'm not, and if that's what you're looking for here then you're wasting
your time. And if I can add a little criticism here while I'm at it, you
would do yourself a *huge* favour by not seeing every conversation as an
opportunity to be offended so you can play the victim.

If you want to talk, then talk. If you want to argue the same tired old
crap that's already been done to death a million times then put me back
in your bin and talk to Keith, as I'm just not interested.
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alvey
2024-12-31 01:40:38 UTC
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Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
So why hang shit on Felix?
cos he likes to  :)  same as keefy
Felix, enough.
Short of these last couple of days I haven't said boo to you in some
time, and have been quite happy about that. I saw your post about
building a new machine and you replied to me a couple of times so I
returned the favour. In doing so I have not said *one thing* that could
remotely be considered derogatory or insulting, or attacked you in any
way whatsoever. All I've done is replied to you in a normal
conversational way where I have agreed with you in some instances and
disagreed in others.
I'm not looking for an argument with you, as past experience has shown
that to be an exercise in futility. If you're looking for that then I'm
sure Keith will keep you entertained as he seems just as keen to repeat
the same rubbish day after day as you are.
I'm not, and if that's what you're looking for here then you're wasting
your time. And if I can add a little criticism here while I'm at it, you
would do yourself a *huge* favour by not seeing every conversation as an
opportunity to be offended so you can play the victim.
If you want to talk, then talk. If you want to argue the same tired old
crap that's already been done to death a million times then put me back
in your bin and talk to Keith, as I'm just not interested.
Rightttt. So because you haven't abused felix in "these last couple of
days..." this equates, in your wacko world, to you *never* "hanging
shit" on him. Good to know Fraudster.


alvey
Xeno
2024-12-31 01:44:52 UTC
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Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
So why hang shit on Felix?
cos he likes to  :)  same as keefy
Felix, enough.
Short of these last couple of days I haven't said boo to you in some
time, and have been quite happy about that. I saw your post about
building a new machine and you replied to me a couple of times so I
returned the favour. In doing so I have not said *one thing* that
could remotely be considered derogatory or insulting, or attacked you
in any way whatsoever. All I've done is replied to you in a normal
conversational way where I have agreed with you in some instances and
disagreed in others.
I'm not looking for an argument with you, as past experience has shown
that to be an exercise in futility. If you're looking for that then
I'm sure Keith will keep you entertained as he seems just as keen to
repeat the same rubbish day after day as you are.
I'm not, and if that's what you're looking for here then you're
wasting your time. And if I can add a little criticism here while I'm
at it, you would do yourself a *huge* favour by not seeing every
conversation as an opportunity to be offended so you can play the victim.
If you want to talk, then talk. If you want to argue the same tired
old crap that's already been done to death a million times then put me
back in your bin and talk to Keith, as I'm just not interested.
Rightttt. So because you haven't abused felix in "these last couple of
days..." this equates, in your wacko world, to you *never* "hanging
shit" on him. Good to know Fraudster.
alvey
I see you noticed his blatant bullshit too!
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Xeno
2024-12-31 01:44:04 UTC
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Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
So why hang shit on Felix?
cos he likes to  :)  same as keefy
Felix, enough.
Short of these last couple of days I haven't said boo to you in some
time, and have been quite happy about that. I saw your post about
building a new machine and you replied to me a couple of times so I
returned the favour. In doing so I have not said *one thing* that could
remotely be considered derogatory or insulting, or attacked you in any
way whatsoever. All I've done is replied to you in a normal
conversational way where I have agreed with you in some instances and
disagreed in others.
Disagreed most times - out of spite and malice.
Post by Noddy
I'm not looking for an argument with you, as past experience has shown
Yeah, right!
Post by Noddy
that to be an exercise in futility. If you're looking for that then I'm
sure Keith will keep you entertained as he seems just as keen to repeat
the same rubbish day after day as you are.
I'm not, and if that's what you're looking for here then you're wasting
your time. And if I can add a little criticism here while I'm at it, you
would do yourself a *huge* favour by not seeing every conversation as an
opportunity to be offended so you can play the victim.
If you want to talk, then talk. If you want to argue the same tired old
crap that's already been done to death a million times then put me back
in your bin and talk to Keith, as I'm just not interested.
Bullshit! You hang shit on Felix at *every opportunity*
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Mighty Mouse
2024-12-31 19:19:43 UTC
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Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
So why hang shit on Felix?
cos he likes to  :)  same as keefy
Felix, enough.
Short of these last couple of days I haven't said boo to you in some
time, and have been quite happy about that. I saw your post about
building a new machine and you replied to me a couple of times so I
returned the favour. In doing so I have not said *one thing* that
could remotely be considered derogatory or insulting, or attacked you
in any way whatsoever. All I've done is replied to you in a normal
conversational way where I have agreed with you in some instances and
disagreed in others.
I'm not looking for an argument with you, as past experience has shown
that to be an exercise in futility. If you're looking for that then
I'm sure Keith will keep you entertained as he seems just as keen to
repeat the same rubbish day after day as you are.
I'm not, and if that's what you're looking for here then you're
wasting your time. And if I can add a little criticism here while I'm
at it, you would do yourself a *huge* favour by not seeing every
conversation as an opportunity to be offended so you can play the victim.
nonsense, but that's just what you're doing here
Post by Noddy
If you want to talk, then talk. If you want to argue the same tired
old crap that's already been done to death a million times then put me
back in your bin
probably a good idea. already you're preaching to me
Post by Noddy
and talk to Keith, as I'm just not interested.
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2024-12-31 23:45:01 UTC
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Post by Noddy
I'm not, and if that's what you're looking for here then you're
wasting your time. And if I can add a little criticism here while I'm
at it, you would do yourself a *huge* favour by not seeing every
conversation as an opportunity to be offended so you can play the victim.
nonsense, but that's just what you're doing here
Is it? Two days into nothing but civil discussion and you're already
waving your victim flag.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Noddy
If you want to talk, then talk. If you want to argue the same tired
old crap that's already been done to death a million times then put me
back in your bin
probably a good idea. already you're preaching to me
It's been fun. Bye.
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Clocky
2025-01-01 00:51:17 UTC
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Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
So why hang shit on Felix?
cos he likes to  :)  same as keefy
Felix, enough.
Short of these last couple of days I haven't said boo to you in some
time, and have been quite happy about that. I saw your post about
building a new machine and you replied to me a couple of times so I
returned the favour. In doing so I have not said *one thing* that could
remotely be considered derogatory or insulting, or attacked you in any
way whatsoever.
... and thousands of post of vitriol and abuse... poof... disappear just
like that!

Amazing.
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On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Mighty Mouse
2025-01-01 00:57:57 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
So why hang shit on Felix?
cos he likes to  :)  same as keefy
Felix, enough.
Short of these last couple of days I haven't said boo to you in some
time, and have been quite happy about that. I saw your post about
building a new machine and you replied to me a couple of times so I
returned the favour. In doing so I have not said *one thing* that
could remotely be considered derogatory or insulting, or attacked you
in any way whatsoever.
... and thousands of posts of vitriol and abuse... poof... disappear
just like that!
Amazing.
isn't it. and let's not forget all the lies and distortions. (are you
still selling toasters?) anyhow, HAPPY NEW YEAR! to you and yours, clocky
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Noddy
2025-01-01 01:36:34 UTC
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isn't it. and let's not forget all the lies and distortions.
The past is the past Felix, and I wasn't talking about that. I'm talking
about now. The right here and right now. But you don't seem interested
in that, and would rather live in the past where you can use every
exchange as a means of feeding your persecution complex.

Fine with me. If that's what you're into then take it up with Keith as
he seems as keen as anyone to play ground hog ping pong. I'm not
interested. So put me back in your bin and you can go back to talking
about me rather that talking to me.

Happy new year and good luck with your projects.
Post by Mighty Mouse
(are you still selling toasters?)
Lol :)

It was washing machines and televisions if I remember correctly. But you
could always as the man himself. He reckons he actually stated what his
time in "retail" was all about. It's just a shame that no record of such
a post seems to exist and he's never been keen to repeat it :)
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alvey
2025-01-01 03:14:20 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
isn't it. and let's not forget all the lies and distortions.
The past is the past Felix, and I wasn't talking about that. I'm talking
about now.
If I understand this Gibbensish correctly, you're saying that you had
changed your approach and weren't going to abuse felix any more. Well if
that's the case you *really* should have declared this 180 degree
change. Mindreaders don't exist here. Personally I believe it be yet
another load of your self-justifying bullshit and that the only way you
could turn over a new leaf would be to crash your Hulkster into a Nissan
dealers yard.



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Xeno
2025-01-01 06:11:34 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
isn't it. and let's not forget all the lies and distortions.
The past is the past Felix, and I wasn't talking about that. I'm
talking about now.
If I understand this Gibbensish correctly, you're saying that you had
changed your approach and weren't going to abuse felix any more. Well if
that's the case you *really* should have declared this 180 degree
change. Mindreaders don't exist here. Personally I believe it be yet
another load of your self-justifying bullshit and that the only way you
could turn over a new leaf would be to crash your Hulkster into a Nissan
dealers yard.
I'd like to see that!
Post by alvey
alvey
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MightyMouse
2025-01-01 08:32:53 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
isn't it. and let's not forget all the lies and distortions.
The past is the past Felix, and I wasn't talking about that. I'm
talking about now.
If I understand this Gibbensish
'Gibbenish' lol!
Post by alvey
correctly, you're saying that you had changed your approach and
weren't going to abuse felix any more. Well if that's the case you
*really* should have declared this 180 degree change. Mindreaders
don't exist here. Personally I believe it be yet another load of your
self-justifying bullshit and that the only way you could turn over a
new leaf would be to crash your Hulkster into a Nissan dealers yard.
alvey
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Post by Mighty Mouse
isn't it. and let's not forget all the lies and distortions.
The past is the past Felix, and I wasn't talking about that. I'm talking
Of course you're not. It's something you should be ashamed of.
Post by Noddy
about now. The right here and right now. But you don't seem interested
The right here and now still involves your vitriol, invective, lies and
bullshit for which there are no excuses and for which you've provided no
proof, none whatsoever, of your claims. So the past, whether you're
talking about it or not, will continue to haunt you no matter how much
you try to run from it.
Post by Noddy
in that, and would rather live in the past where you can use every
exchange as a means of feeding your persecution complex.
The one here with a persecution complex would be you. My guess is you
started to get shit hung on you when first you attended school and would
be the reason you skipped without finishing year 9. You're a classic
case of the persecuted becoming the persecutor, the bullied becoming the
bully. But, beneath the surface, you're still that scared little boy!
Post by Noddy
Fine with me. If that's what you're into then take it up with Keith as
he seems as keen as anyone to play ground hog ping pong. I'm not
interested. So put me back in your bin and you can go back to talking
about me rather that talking to me.
So, how about proof of your claims then? That should settle everything.
Post by Noddy
Happy new year and good luck with your projects.
Post by Mighty Mouse
(are you still selling toasters?)
Lol :)
It was washing machines and televisions if I remember correctly. But you
could always as the man himself. He reckons he actually stated what his
That makes no sense, as does a lot of what you scribble.
Post by Noddy
time in "retail" was all about. It's just a shame that no record of such
a post seems to exist and he's never been keen to repeat it :)
So you've been looking, eh?
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2025-01-01 01:37:46 UTC
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Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
So why hang shit on Felix?
cos he likes to  :)  same as keefy
Felix, enough.
Short of these last couple of days I haven't said boo to you in some
time, and have been quite happy about that. I saw your post about
building a new machine and you replied to me a couple of times so I
returned the favour. In doing so I have not said *one thing* that
could remotely be considered derogatory or insulting, or attacked you
in any way whatsoever.
... and thousands of posts of vitriol and abuse... poof... disappear
just like that!
Amazing.
isn't it. and let's not forget all the lies and distortions. (are you
still selling toasters?)
In between being a "former Labor Party member", sure :-)

anyhow, HAPPY NEW YEAR! to you and yours, clocky
You and yours too, all the best!
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2025-01-01 01:47:28 UTC
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Post by Xeno
So why hang shit on Felix?
cos he likes to  :)  same as keefy
Felix, enough.
Short of these last couple of days I haven't said boo to you in
some time, and have been quite happy about that. I saw your post
about building a new machine and you replied to me a couple of
times so I returned the favour. In doing so I have not said *one
thing* that could remotely be considered derogatory or insulting,
or attacked you in any way whatsoever.
... and thousands of posts of vitriol and abuse... poof... disappear
just like that!
Amazing.
isn't it. and let's not forget all the lies and distortions. (are you
still selling toasters?)
In between being a "former Labor Party member", sure :-)
Post by Mighty Mouse
 anyhow, HAPPY NEW YEAR! to you and yours, clocky
You and yours too, all the best!
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Post by MightyMouse
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
There is nothing wrong with buying a second hand car Felix.
of course there isn't. but you also take a risk of there being problems
with it, because that's the reason the previous owner sold it. that risk
can be mitigated of course by buying from a dealer, or having it
inspected by a qualified mechanic. also you don't get the same warranty
as with a new car.
Post by Noddy
Not everyone can afford new,
many new cars are cheaper than other makes second hand
Post by Noddy
and there are some great savings to be made in buying slightly used.
of course there are.
Post by Noddy
Not all cars are automatically destined to become lemons just because
they get older either, and some people would rather buy a used "good"
car than a "shit" new one.
yep. so far you have said nothing I don't already know. why would you
think I don't know these things?
Post by Noddy
Take your case for example. You bought the cheapest new car you could
find because you subscribe to the view that "new is best.
still believing you can read my mind I see. I bought it because I wanted
a SUV, and I liked this one, and the price also of course. FYI I was
considering also the Mitsubishi ASX which at the time could be had for
around $27k, but then they upped the price to around (over?) $31k, and I
didn't want to pay that much.
Post by Noddy
If that's what you like then good on you, but the strange thing about
it is that at the time you bought it you knew virtually nothing about
the car or it's track record,
yes, I took a bit of a chance on it
Post by Noddy
and already had a decent car which in the opinion of some was a better
vehicle.
that's irrelevant to what I wanted
Post by Noddy
For the same money you could have had a 3 or 4 year old Toyota Camry,
which is a car with a stellar reputation that would absolutely shit
all over the MG you have now and still be running fine when your MG is
dead and buried.
I've had a Camry. I don't like them, and I don't like buying second hand.
Post by Noddy
But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car.
no. (see previous)
Post by Noddy
Given the choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry.
so what. I do what I want. what others want is irrelevant to what I want
Post by Noddy
Myself included.
you missed your calling in life, it seems. given your penchant for
psychoanalysis, you might have been happier being a psychologist or
psychiatrist, but probably not a successful one, given how often you get
things wrong when you exercise your 'skills' on me. plus the fact that
you lack the required entry educational level, so maybe best to stick to
(unqualified) mechanical work. :)
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Post by Noddy
There is nothing wrong with buying a second hand car Felix.
of course there isn't. but you also take a risk of there being problems
with it, because that's the reason the previous owner sold it.
Actually Felix if you looked into this you would find that most cars in
the 3-5 year old age group are sold because they're at the end of their
lease period. They have nothing wrong with them and their owners are
looking to trade up to a newer model.
Post by MightyMouse
that risk can be mitigated of course by buying from a dealer, or having it
inspected by a qualified mechanic. also you don't get the same warranty
as with a new car.
That can be good or bad. It depends. New car warranties aren't all
they're cracked up to be sometimes. Ask anyone who has had an engine
failure claim in a new 300 series Landcruiser denied by Toyota :)
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Noddy
Not everyone can afford new,
many new cars are cheaper than other makes second hand
Apples to apples comparisons there are few, if any, new cars that are
cheaper than a used equivalent.
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Noddy
Not all cars are automatically destined to become lemons just because
they get older either, and some people would rather buy a used "good"
car than a "shit" new one.
yep. so far you have said nothing I don't already know. why would you
think I don't know these things?
I made no suggestion. I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for
favouring used over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as
to why buying used can make sense.
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Noddy
Take your case for example. You bought the cheapest new car you could
find because you subscribe to the view that "new is best.
still believing you can read my mind I see. I bought it because I wanted
a SUV, and I liked this one, and the price also of course. FYI I was
considering also the Mitsubishi ASX which at the time could be had for
around $27k, but then they upped the price to around (over?) $31k, and I
didn't want to pay that much.
Fair enough. I'm not criticising you, and nor am I trying to second
guess you. I'm simply commenting about what you yourself have said
previously, which was "new is best" or words to that effect.

I'm not putting words into your mouth. You have stated this a number of
times.
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Noddy
If that's what you like then good on you, but the strange thing about
it is that at the time you bought it you knew virtually nothing about
the car or it's track record,
yes, I took a bit of a chance on it
Yes, you did. Hopefully that doesn't come back to bite you in the arse,
but the jury's still out on that. >
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Noddy
and already had a decent car which in the opinion of some was a better
vehicle.
that's irrelevant to what I wanted
Again, fair enough.
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Noddy
For the same money you could have had a 3 or 4 year old Toyota Camry,
which is a car with a stellar reputation that would absolutely shit
all over the MG you have now and still be running fine when your MG is
dead and buried.
I've had a Camry. I don't like them, and I don't like buying second hand.
And there you go. You've said it again. You prefer to buy new,
presumably because you feel that "new is best". How you can think I'm
"reading your mind" when you make comments like this yourself is a
mystery :)
Post by MightyMouse
you missed your calling in life, it seems. given your penchant for
psychoanalysis, you might have been happier being a psychologist or
psychiatrist, but probably not a successful one, given how often you get
things wrong when you exercise your 'skills' on me. plus the fact that
you lack the required entry educational level, so maybe best to stick to
(unqualified) mechanical work. :)
As much as you might like to think so, it's not about any of that
nonsense and to be quite frank I couldn't care less what type of car you
want to own.

The point here is that you laughed at the idea of Daryl's like for used
cars as if it was a stupid idea in some way, but then when questioned in
some detail you seem to agree with a lot of the reasons why buying used
can make great sense. Moreover you seem to get your nose out of joint
because not everyone likes your choice of vehicle, which makes the least
sense of all.

At the end of the day if you're happy with your car then enjoy it.
Whether other people like it should be completely irrelevant to you, but
that doesn't mean they can't have an opinion.
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Mighty Mouse
2024-12-31 19:16:05 UTC
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 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used over
new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why buying
used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
  Moreover you seem to get your nose out of joint because not everyone
likes your choice of vehicle
liar. I've never said anything to suggest that.
At the end of the day if you're happy with your car then enjoy it.
Whether other people like it should be completely irrelevant to you,
which it is
but that doesn't mean they can't have an opinion.
of course
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2024-12-31 23:43:36 UTC
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 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used over
new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why buying
used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example he
may have given applies to him and him only. Some people are quite
capable of telling a good car from a bad one. Daryl can do that. Alvey
cannot.
Post by Mighty Mouse
  Moreover you seem to get your nose out of joint because not everyone
likes your choice of vehicle
liar. I've never said anything to suggest that.
You do it all the time. No one else here has had anything positive to
say about the little MG as far as I can tell, and whenever negative talk
about it comes up you get very defensive.
Post by Mighty Mouse
At the end of the day if you're happy with your car then enjoy it.
Whether other people like it should be completely irrelevant to you,
which it is
Fair enough.
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2025-01-01 00:50:34 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a problem
with them, or they need money spent on them
Post by Noddy
Some people are quite capable of telling a good car from a bad one.
Daryl can do that. Alvey cannot.
Post by Mighty Mouse
  Moreover you seem to get your nose out of joint because not
everyone likes your choice of vehicle
liar. I've never said anything to suggest that.
You do it all the time. No one else here has had anything positive to
say about the little MG as far as I can tell, and whenever negative
talk about it comes up you get very defensive.
prove it. you're talking bullshit as usual
Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
At the end of the day if you're happy with your car then enjoy it.
Whether other people like it should be completely irrelevant to you,
which it is
Fair enough.
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2025-01-01 01:03:47 UTC
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 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a problem
with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty and absorb the
depreciation hit each time. It's a false economy, you would be better to
buy something with a decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
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2025-01-01 01:33:32 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any
example he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a
problem with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
I traded the Magna because it was old and needed money spent on it, and
I wanted a modern car with new technology. previous cars I traded for
various reasons.
Post by Clocky
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty
no doubt you're referring to the MG's. they would be the only cars I've
owned in recent times one might suggest fits the description. I bought
the MG3 for the reason I said above, and the ZS because I wanted a SUV,
and I liked it.
Post by Clocky
and absorb the depreciation hit each time.
yeah, that hurts a bit. but it's not always the case. the Lancer I sold
for more than I paid for it, and I only lost $1k or so on the MG3, so
not much for 12 months motoring in it. the biggest hit I took was on the
Camry which I sold after two years I think, because the seats were so
uncomfortable and I had a back problem at the time. plus I didn't like
it, and it had been damaged twice.
Post by Clocky
It's a false economy, you would be better to buy something with a
decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
we only live once. why should I be driving a car I'm not happy with,
and/or doesn't meet my needs at the time?
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Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you
take buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example
of anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any
example he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a
problem with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
I traded the Magna because it was old and needed money spent on it,
and I wanted a modern car with new technology. previous cars I traded
for various reasons.
Post by Clocky
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty
no doubt you're referring to the MG's. they would be the only cars
I've owned in recent times one might suggest fits the description. I
bought the MG3 for the reason I said above, and the ZS because I
wanted a SUV, and I liked it.
Post by Clocky
and absorb the depreciation hit each time.
btw.. true story! I paid $11,920 for my Mazda 323 in Oct 1985 and traded
it in for $12,209 in Feb 1989 on the TN. I kid you not! the dealer made
a mistake on the value of the 323, but I had already signed the
contract, so there was nothing they could do about it. after shopping
around for prices at all the local dealers, we were driving thru Geelong
on a Sunday afternoon, past a Mitsubishi dealer, and decided to get one
last valuation. I couldn't believe what they offered me and signed the
contract on the spot. previous valuations were around $7,000, iirc. and
before anyone says the price of the Magna was inflated to up the trade
in price, it wasn't. I paid $19,474 for the TN, which was the normal
price. (or maybe even with some discount?)
Post by Mighty Mouse
yeah, that hurts a bit. but it's not always the case. the Lancer I
sold for more than I paid for it, and I only lost $1k or so on the
MG3, so not much for 12 months motoring in it. the biggest hit I took
was on the Camry which I sold after two years I think, because the
seats were so uncomfortable and I had a back problem at the time. plus
I didn't like it, and it had been damaged twice.
I decided to check.. purchased for $25,700 on 22/02/2002. traded on
12/07/2005 for $13,500 with only 24,387 ks on the clock. so a cost to me
of $12,200 over 41 months. the car was in perfect condition, with very
low mileage, but still lost over 50% of it's purchase price in just
three and a half years. kinda flies in the face somewhat of Xeno's claim
that Toyotas are spectacular in holding their value. <shrug> oh, and I
had shopped around and got the best deal I possibly could have.

and interestingly, the Camry was the reason I bought a Magna. whilst the
Camry was being repaired, after being hit in the rear by some idiot who
didn't allow themself enough time to stop on wet road, I received a
Magna as a loan vehicle. I loved driving it so much, and the seats were
so comfortable, when I got the Camry back I went and traded it.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Clocky
It's a false economy, you would be better to buy something with a
decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
we only live once. why should I be driving a car I'm not happy with,
and/or doesn't meet my needs at the time?
btw.. I do keep some cars for a considerable time. The Magna TW I kept
for 13 years, and the TN Magna for 10 years.
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I decided to check.. purchased for $25,700 on 22/02/2002. traded on
12/07/2005 for $13,500 with only 24,387 ks on the clock. so a cost to me
of $12,200 over 41 months. the car was in perfect condition, with very
low mileage, but still lost over 50% of it's purchase price in just
three and a half years. kinda flies in the face somewhat of Xeno's claim
that Toyotas are spectacular in holding their value.
It comes as no surprise to anyone but you that the Mental case has no
idea what he's talking about and just makes it up as he goes along.
Post by MightyMouse
and interestingly, the Camry was the reason I bought a Magna. whilst the
Camry was being repaired, after being hit in the rear by some idiot who
didn't allow themself enough time to stop on wet road, I received a
Magna as a loan vehicle. I loved driving it so much, and the seats were
so comfortable, when I got the Camry back I went and traded it.
That was then. It would be a decidedly different story if you drove a
Camry today. They are far and away one of the best sedans on the market,
and I don't say that lightly considering that I'm no believer in the
myth of all things Toyota being the best you can get.

Some of their stuff is over priced junk. The Camry however, is a very,
very good car.
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2025-01-01 08:03:28 UTC
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Post by MightyMouse
I decided to check.. purchased for $25,700 on 22/02/2002. traded on
12/07/2005 for $13,500 with only 24,387 ks on the clock. so a cost to
me of $12,200 over 41 months. the car was in perfect condition, with
very low mileage, but still lost over 50% of it's purchase price in
just three and a half years. kinda flies in the face somewhat of
Xeno's claim that Toyotas are spectacular in holding their value.
It comes as no surprise to anyone but you that the Mental case has no
idea what he's talking about and just makes it up as he goes along.
You really should cease and desist this projection of your mental health
status Darren, it's not a good look you know! I mean, your delusions are
on show for all to see - especially so when you run from proving claims
you've made - nothing shows up a delusion more than a lack of objective
and tactile proof.

It's Ok Darren, I know you don't have trade papers, there'd be records
in the archives if you had - and those archives are devoid of anything
in your name. You can nip on down and complain if you feel you've been
*dudded* by the government, the archives are all public. I'm sure
they'll let you know where you stand - in short order too is my guess.
Post by Noddy
Post by MightyMouse
and interestingly, the Camry was the reason I bought a Magna. whilst
the Camry was being repaired, after being hit in the rear by some
idiot who didn't allow themself enough time to stop on wet road, I
received a Magna as a loan vehicle. I loved driving it so much, and
the seats were so comfortable, when I got the Camry back I went and
traded it.
That was then. It would be a decidedly different story if you drove a
Camry today. They are far and away one of the best sedans on the market,
and I don't say that lightly considering that I'm no believer in the
myth of all things Toyota being the best you can get.
Some of their stuff is over priced junk. The Camry however, is a very,
very good car.
The Camry is no different to pretty much anything and everything made by
Toyota.
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2025-01-01 08:26:42 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by MightyMouse
I decided to check.. purchased for $25,700 on 22/02/2002. traded on
12/07/2005 for $13,500 with only 24,387 ks on the clock. so a cost to
me of $12,200 over 41 months. the car was in perfect condition, with
very low mileage, but still lost over 50% of it's purchase price in
just three and a half years. kinda flies in the face somewhat of
Xeno's claim that Toyotas are spectacular in holding their value.
It comes as no surprise to anyone but you that the Mental case has no
idea what he's talking about and just makes it up as he goes along.
You really should cease and desist this projection of your mental health
status Darren, it's not a good look you know! I mean, your delusions are
on show for all to see - especially so when you run from proving claims
you've made - nothing shows up a delusion more than a lack of objective
and tactile proof.
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True that, krypsis!.,,,, Walled up cars anyone?.
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It's Ok Darren, I know you don't have trade papers, there'd be records
in the archives if you had - and those archives are devoid of anything
in your name. You can nip on down and complain if you feel you've been
*dudded* by the government, the archives are all public. I'm sure
they'll let you know where you stand - in short order too is my guess.
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and interestingly, the Camry was the reason I bought a Magna. whilst
the Camry was being repaired, after being hit in the rear by some
idiot who didn't allow themself enough time to stop on wet road, I
received a Magna as a loan vehicle. I loved driving it so much, and
the seats were so comfortable, when I got the Camry back I went and
traded it.
That was then. It would be a decidedly different story if you drove a
Camry today. They are far and away one of the best sedans on the
market, and I don't say that lightly considering that I'm no believer
in the myth of all things Toyota being the best you can get.
Some of their stuff is over priced junk. The Camry however, is a very,
very good car.
The Camry is no different to pretty much anything and everything made by
Toyota.
MightyMouse
2025-01-01 08:52:51 UTC
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I decided to check.. purchased for $25,700 on 22/02/2002. traded on
12/07/2005 for $13,500 with only 24,387 ks on the clock. so a cost
to me of $12,200 over 41 months. the car was in perfect condition,
with very low mileage, but still lost over 50% of it's purchase
price in just three and a half years. kinda flies in the face
somewhat of Xeno's claim that Toyotas are spectacular in holding
their value.
It comes as no surprise to anyone but you that the Mental case has no
idea what he's talking about and just makes it up as he goes along.
You really should cease and desist this projection of your mental
health status Darren, it's not a good look you know! I mean, your
delusions are on show for all to see - especially so when you run from
proving claims you've made - nothing shows up a delusion more than a
lack of objective and tactile proof.
It's Ok Darren, I know you don't have trade papers, there'd be records
in the archives if you had - and those archives are devoid of anything
in your name. You can nip on down and complain if you feel you've been
*dudded* by the government, the archives are all public. I'm sure
they'll let you know where you stand - in short order too is my guess.
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Post by MightyMouse
and interestingly, the Camry was the reason I bought a Magna. whilst
the Camry was being repaired, after being hit in the rear by some
idiot who didn't allow themself enough time to stop on wet road, I
received a Magna as a loan vehicle. I loved driving it so much, and
the seats were so comfortable, when I got the Camry back I went and
traded it.
That was then. It would be a decidedly different story if you drove a
Camry today. They are far and away one of the best sedans on the
market, and I don't say that lightly considering that I'm no believer
in the myth of all things Toyota being the best you can get.
Some of their stuff is over priced junk. The Camry however, is a
very, very good car.
The Camry is no different to pretty much anything and everything made
by Toyota.
a friend bought a second hand Aurion and has had to spend a bucket load
of money on it since.
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2025-01-01 07:46:12 UTC
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 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you
take buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example
of anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any
example he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a
problem with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
I traded the Magna because it was old and needed money spent on it,
and I wanted a modern car with new technology. previous cars I traded
for various reasons.
Post by Clocky
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty
no doubt you're referring to the MG's. they would be the only cars
I've owned in recent times one might suggest fits the description. I
bought the MG3 for the reason I said above, and the ZS because I
wanted a SUV, and I liked it.
Post by Clocky
and absorb the depreciation hit each time.
btw.. true story! I paid $11,920 for my Mazda 323 in Oct 1985 and traded
it in for $12,209 in Feb 1989 on the TN. I kid you not! the dealer made
a mistake on the value of the 323, but I had already signed the
contract, so there was nothing they could do about it. after shopping
around for prices at all the local dealers, we were driving thru Geelong
on a Sunday afternoon, past a Mitsubishi dealer, and decided to get one
last valuation. I couldn't believe what they offered me and signed the
contract on the spot. previous valuations were around $7,000, iirc. and
before anyone says the price of the Magna was inflated to up the trade
in price, it wasn't. I paid $19,474 for the TN, which was the normal
price. (or maybe even with some discount?)
Post by Mighty Mouse
yeah, that hurts a bit. but it's not always the case. the Lancer I
sold for more than I paid for it, and I only lost $1k or so on the
MG3, so not much for 12 months motoring in it. the biggest hit I took
was on the Camry which I sold after two years I think, because the
seats were so uncomfortable and I had a back problem at the time. plus
I didn't like it, and it had been damaged twice.
I decided to check.. purchased for $25,700 on 22/02/2002. traded on
12/07/2005 for $13,500 with only 24,387 ks on the clock. so a cost to me
of $12,200 over 41 months. the car was in perfect condition, with very
low mileage, but still lost over 50% of it's purchase price in just
three and a half years. kinda flies in the face somewhat of Xeno's claim
that Toyotas are spectacular in holding their value. <shrug> oh, and I
had shopped around and got the best deal I possibly could have.
The *trade in* price isn't the criteria, it's what price *they* put it
on the lot for - and get! Also, trade in prices are better if you trade,
say, a Toyota in for a Toyota and even better if at the dealer where you
purchased the car from originally and had it serviced at. I got an
excellent trade in deal on my 2010 Corolla at Lane Toyota in Glen
Waverly. That was because I had purchased it there and had it serviced
there whilst under warranty. What's more it was in excellent nick though
not particularly low mileage - 120k if memory serves.
Post by MightyMouse
and interestingly, the Camry was the reason I bought a Magna. whilst the
Camry was being repaired, after being hit in the rear by some idiot who
didn't allow themself enough time to stop on wet road, I received a
Magna as a loan vehicle. I loved driving it so much, and the seats were
so comfortable, when I got the Camry back I went and traded it.
Never found our Magna seats to be anything startling.
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Clocky
It's a false economy, you would be better to buy something with a
decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
we only live once. why should I be driving a car I'm not happy with,
and/or doesn't meet my needs at the time?
btw.. I do keep some cars for a considerable time. The Magna TW I kept
for 13 years, and the TN Magna for 10 years.
Yeah but they aren't fragile - like Nissans.
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MightyMouse
2025-01-01 08:50:04 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring
used over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as
to why buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you
take buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example
of anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any
example he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a
problem with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or
other reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
I traded the Magna because it was old and needed money spent on it,
and I wanted a modern car with new technology. previous cars I
traded for various reasons.
Post by Clocky
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your
newly bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty
no doubt you're referring to the MG's. they would be the only cars
I've owned in recent times one might suggest fits the description. I
bought the MG3 for the reason I said above, and the ZS because I
wanted a SUV, and I liked it.
Post by Clocky
and absorb the depreciation hit each time.
btw.. true story! I paid $11,920 for my Mazda 323 in Oct 1985 and
traded it in for $12,209 in Feb 1989 on the TN. I kid you not! the
dealer made a mistake on the value of the 323, but I had already
signed the contract, so there was nothing they could do about it.
after shopping around for prices at all the local dealers, we were
driving thru Geelong on a Sunday afternoon, past a Mitsubishi dealer,
and decided to get one last valuation. I couldn't believe what they
offered me and signed the contract on the spot. previous valuations
were around $7,000, iirc. and before anyone says the price of the
Magna was inflated to up the trade in price, it wasn't. I paid
$19,474 for the TN, which was the normal price. (or maybe even with
some discount?)
Post by Mighty Mouse
yeah, that hurts a bit. but it's not always the case. the Lancer I
sold for more than I paid for it, and I only lost $1k or so on the
MG3, so not much for 12 months motoring in it. the biggest hit I
took was on the Camry which I sold after two years I think, because
the seats were so uncomfortable and I had a back problem at the
time. plus I didn't like it, and it had been damaged twice.
I decided to check.. purchased for $25,700 on 22/02/2002. traded on
12/07/2005 for $13,500 with only 24,387 ks on the clock. so a cost to
me of $12,200 over 41 months. the car was in perfect condition, with
very low mileage, but still lost over 50% of it's purchase price in
just three and a half years. kinda flies in the face somewhat of
Xeno's claim that Toyotas are spectacular in holding their value.
<shrug> oh, and I had shopped around and got the best deal I possibly
could have.
The *trade in* price isn't the criteria, it's what price *they* put it
on the lot for - and get! Also, trade in prices are better if you
trade, say, a Toyota in for a Toyota and even better if at the dealer
where you purchased the car from originally and had it serviced at. I
got an excellent trade in deal on my 2010 Corolla at Lane Toyota in
Glen Waverly. That was because I had purchased it there and had it
serviced there whilst under warranty. What's more it was in excellent
nick though not particularly low mileage - 120k if memory serves.
all that's true of course, but it's only the price the person trading in
receives that is of interest to them, and in this (my) case that was
less than 50% of the purchase price for a car that was still like new
condition
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Post by MightyMouse
and interestingly, the Camry was the reason I bought a Magna. whilst
the Camry was being repaired, after being hit in the rear by some
idiot who didn't allow themself enough time to stop on wet road, I
received a Magna as a loan vehicle. I loved driving it so much, and
the seats were so comfortable, when I got the Camry back I went and
traded it.
Never found our Magna seats to be anything startling.
which one? I was talking about the TW
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Post by MightyMouse
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Clocky
It's a false economy, you would be better to buy something with a
decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
we only live once. why should I be driving a car I'm not happy with,
and/or doesn't meet my needs at the time?
btw.. I do keep some cars for a considerable time. The Magna TW I
kept for 13 years, and the TN Magna for 10 years.
Yeah but they aren't fragile - like Nissans.
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2025-01-01 01:43:12 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a problem
with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty and absorb the
depreciation hit each time. It's a false economy, you would be better to
buy something with a decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
Like I’m doing with my current car, 160,000+ k klms and running perfectly.
When it gets to 200,000k, I’ll probably just give it away!

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Mighty Mouse
2025-01-01 01:45:51 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a problem
with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty and absorb the
depreciation hit each time. It's a false economy, you would be better to
buy something with a decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
Like I’m doing with my current car, 160,000+ k klms and running perfectly.
When it gets to 200,000k, I’ll probably just give it away!
don't you keep telling us Toyota's live forever?..  :)
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2025-01-01 01:48:18 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
  I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a problem
with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty and absorb the
depreciation hit each time. It's a false economy, you would be better to
buy something with a decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
Like I’m doing with my current car, 160,000+ k klms and running perfectly.
When it gets to 200,000k, I’ll probably just give it away!
don't you keep telling us Toyota's live forever?..  :)
happy new year btw
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2025-01-01 06:07:57 UTC
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Post by Clocky
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Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
  I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a problem
with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty and absorb the
depreciation hit each time. It's a false economy, you would be better to
buy something with a decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
Like I’m doing with my current car, 160,000+ k klms and running perfectly.
When it gets to 200,000k, I’ll probably just give it away!
don't you keep telling us Toyota's live forever?..  :)
happy new year btw
Thanks, same to you and everyone else here, no exceptions.
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Xeno
2025-01-01 06:06:22 UTC
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Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
  I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a problem
with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty and absorb the
depreciation hit each time. It's a false economy, you would be better to
buy something with a decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
Like I’m doing with my current car, 160,000+ k klms and running perfectly.
When it gets to 200,000k, I’ll probably just give it away!
don't you keep telling us Toyota's live forever?..  :)
They do indeed live forever but I like to turn them over around 150k
klms and give others the joy of reliability. This one I've kept longer
because the Toyotas I was interested in were in very short supply, that
seems to be easing. Oh, and also because I would like a hybrid to see me
out. Toyota do the best hybrids in the world.
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Clocky
2025-01-01 06:16:26 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a problem
with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty and absorb the
depreciation hit each time. It's a false economy, you would be better to
buy something with a decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
Like I’m doing with my current car, 160,000+ k klms and running perfectly.
When it gets to 200,000k, I’ll probably just give it away!
If it's a Toyota at 200,000km it's barely run in :-)
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2025-01-01 07:28:20 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a
problem with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty and absorb the
depreciation hit each time. It's a false economy, you would be better to
buy something with a decent reputation once and drive it into the ground.
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Yep, and for mine the best of the bunch was the Magna!. Which had I
known would had bought in a flash!.
My `95 cherokee is now running like a clock after a lot of neglected
maintenance catch-up. $600, rust free, A'Limited'so has all the bells
and whistles! (Everything works) had it four years or so now. Utterly
reliable.
Felix reminds me of the adage, *A fool and his money are soon
parted*.. Also, The *drive it into the ground* bit, is *stupid*...Why do
that?. As long as the tin worm dos`nt get a *major* hold, they`ll run
forever!.
If you get sick of it, you still have a saleable car.
MightyMouse
2025-01-01 08:45:28 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you
take buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example
of anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any
example he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a
problem with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty and absorb the
depreciation hit each time. It's a false economy, you would be better
to buy something with a decent reputation once and drive it into the
ground.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Yep, and for mine the best of the bunch was the Magna!. Which had I
known would had bought in a flash!.
 My `95 cherokee is now running like a clock after a lot of neglected
maintenance catch-up. $600, rust free, A'Limited'so has all the bells
and whistles! (Everything works) had it four years or so now. Utterly
reliable.
 Felix reminds me of the adage, *A fool and his money are soon parted*
you remind me of a saying I just invented.. "any fool can post on usenet"
Post by jonz
.. Also, The *drive it into the ground* bit, is *stupid*...Why do
that?. As long as the tin worm dos`nt get a *major* hold, they`ll run
forever!.
   If you get sick of it, you still have a saleable car.
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2025-01-02 01:22:56 UTC
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Post by jonz
Post by Clocky
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you
take buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example
of anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any
example he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a
problem with them, or they need money spent on them
Possibly but often it's because they upgrade, get a work car or other
reasons. Why did you trade in your cars?
What I don't understand is how you can justify trading in your newly
bought cars so often when you buy cheap and nasty and absorb the
depreciation hit each time. It's a false economy, you would be better
to buy something with a decent reputation once and drive it into the
ground.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Yep, and for mine the best of the bunch was the Magna!. Which had I
known would had bought in a flash!.
 My `95 cherokee is now running like a clock after a lot of neglected
maintenance catch-up. $600, rust free, A'Limited'so has all the bells
and whistles! (Everything works) had it four years or so now. Utterly
reliable.
 Felix reminds me of the adage, *A fool and his money are soon parted*
you remind me of a saying I just invented.. "any fool can post on usenet"
¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
And you *DO*!
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Post by jonz
.. Also, The *drive it into the ground* bit, is *stupid*...Why do
that?. As long as the tin worm dos`nt get a *major* hold, they`ll run
forever!.
   If you get sick of it, you still have a saleable car.
Noddy
2025-01-01 01:38:30 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a problem
with them, or they need money spent on them
So, apart from your own personal experiences where you've demonstrated
doing exactly that, how would you have any idea what anyone else does?

Just out of curiosity, what was wrong with your Lancer when you traded
it? Or your MG3 for that matter?
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jonz
2025-01-01 06:59:14 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only.
nup. it's common for ppl to get rid of their cars when there's a problem
with them, or they need money spent on them
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sure, dishonest cunts!.They *know* the vehicle has possibly *major*
faults. Be honest with the buyer?, fuck no!. They`ll sell it as a
*mudguard* (shiny on top and shit underneath) However, that`ll only work
with the Nonces. They shouldnt even be let out on their own,let alone
buying vehicles! (New or used) Know anyone like that?
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Noddy
Some people are quite capable of telling a good car from a bad one.
Daryl can do that. Alvey cannot.
Post by Mighty Mouse
  Moreover you seem to get your nose out of joint because not
everyone likes your choice of vehicle
liar. I've never said anything to suggest that.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sure have. But *you`re* the bloke that has a habit of saying
"sometimes I forget"..Copout puss.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Noddy
You do it all the time. No one else here has had anything positive to
say about the little MG as far as I can tell, and whenever negative
talk about it comes up you get very defensive.
prove it. you're talking bullshit as usual
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
He`s *right* on the money!. ;)
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
At the end of the day if you're happy with your car then enjoy it.
Whether other people like it should be completely irrelevant to you,
which it is
Fair enough.
Kant
2025-01-01 02:58:56 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used over
new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why buying
used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example he
may have given applies to him and him only. Some people are quite
capable of telling a good car from a bad one. Daryl can do that. Alvey
cannot.
So Fraudsters' NY resolutions didn't include being honest then. No
surprise there.
Post by Noddy
Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of anything...
Well that's an outright lie Fraudster. I've given many "perfect
examples" of you being a liar. eg.

1. You giving an hilarious *four* different heights for yourself.
2. Busted you for claiming that your father "fought in Korea"
3. Your contradictory posts about owning a Subway.

Hypocrite:

1. Those manifold, strident demands of yours that others produce proof
of claim but then refusing to do the same when your stories were
challenged. The especially galling ones being those of magnitude. ie
Your fabled business and qualifications.

And then there's the point which has been made to you many, many times
but which, apu, you fail to remember... How can you make a statement
like, "... Alvey has never given a perfect example ..." when you claim
that you don't read killfilees posts?
Post by Noddy
as the bloke is a raving lunatic
lol!
Says the embarrassingly inept narcissitic fantasist who invented a
shedload of tales of triumph and achievement to try and compensate for
an ordinary life lived ordinarily.
Post by Noddy
any example he may have given applies to him and him only.
That's a meaningless & utterly useless statement.

But I will remember to quote it back to you and Deryl as you both
consistently use the experience of one relative/'friend' (almost
certainly non-existant in your case) to 'prove' your case.

Face the facts Fraudster, you've told far too many lies and abused far
too many people to ever be taken seriously in this very small pond.


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2025-01-01 06:10:45 UTC
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Post by Kant
Post by Noddy
Post by Mighty Mouse
 I was just wondering why you soffed at Daryl for favouring used
over new when you seem to be agreeing with every point as to why
buying used can make sense.
because alvey had just given a perfect example of the risk you take
buying second hand
Two things here. Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of
anything, as the bloke is a raving lunatic. And Secondly, any example
he may have given applies to him and him only. Some people are quite
capable of telling a good car from a bad one. Daryl can do that. Alvey
cannot.
So Fraudsters' NY resolutions didn't include being honest then. No
surprise there.
Post by Noddy
Firstly, Alvey has never given a perfect example of anything...
Well that's an outright lie Fraudster. I've given many "perfect
examples" of you being a liar. eg.
1. You giving an hilarious *four* different heights for yourself.
2. Busted you for claiming that your father "fought in Korea"
3. Your contradictory posts about owning a Subway.
1. Those manifold, strident demands of yours that others produce proof
of claim but then refusing to do the same when your stories were
challenged. The especially galling ones being those of magnitude. ie
Your fabled business and qualifications.
And then there's the point which has been made to you many, many times
but which, apu, you fail to remember... How can you make a statement
like, "... Alvey has never given a perfect example ..." when you claim
that you don't read killfilees posts?
Post by Noddy
as the bloke is a raving lunatic
lol!
Says the embarrassingly inept narcissitic fantasist who invented a
shedload of tales of triumph and achievement to try and compensate for
an ordinary life lived ordinarily.
Post by Noddy
any example he may have given applies to him and him only.
That's a meaningless & utterly useless statement.
But I will remember to quote it back to you and Deryl as you both
consistently use the experience of one relative/'friend' (almost
certainly non-existant in your case) to 'prove' your case.
Face the facts Fraudster, you've told far too many lies and abused far
too many people to ever be taken seriously in this very small pond.
Ain't that the truth!
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Clocky
2025-01-01 00:57:54 UTC
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Post by MightyMouse
Post by Noddy
Post by MightyMouse
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
There is nothing wrong with buying a second hand car Felix.
of course there isn't. but you also take a risk of there being problems
with it, because that's the reason the previous owner sold it. that risk
can be mitigated of course by buying from a dealer, or having it
inspected by a qualified mechanic. also you don't get the same warranty
as with a new car.
Post by Noddy
Not everyone can afford new,
many new cars are cheaper than other makes second hand
Post by Noddy
and there are some great savings to be made in buying slightly used.
of course there are.
Post by Noddy
Not all cars are automatically destined to become lemons just because
they get older either, and some people would rather buy a used "good"
car than a "shit" new one.
yep. so far you have said nothing I don't already know. why would you
think I don't know these things?
Post by Noddy
Take your case for example. You bought the cheapest new car you could
find because you subscribe to the view that "new is best.
still believing you can read my mind I see. I bought it because I wanted
a SUV, and I liked this one, and the price also of course. FYI I was
considering also the Mitsubishi ASX which at the time could be had for
around $27k, but then they upped the price to around (over?) $31k, and I
didn't want to pay that much.
Post by Noddy
If that's what you like then good on you, but the strange thing about
it is that at the time you bought it you knew virtually nothing about
the car or it's track record,
yes, I took a bit of a chance on it
Post by Noddy
and already had a decent car which in the opinion of some was a better
vehicle.
that's irrelevant to what I wanted
Post by Noddy
For the same money you could have had a 3 or 4 year old Toyota Camry,
which is a car with a stellar reputation that would absolutely shit
all over the MG you have now and still be running fine when your MG is
dead and buried.
I've had a Camry. I don't like them, and I don't like buying second hand.
Post by Noddy
But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car.
no. (see previous)
Post by Noddy
Given the choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry.
so what. I do what I want. what others want is irrelevant to what I want
Post by Noddy
Myself included.
you missed your calling in life, it seems. given your penchant for
psychoanalysis, you might have been happier being a psychologist or
psychiatrist, but probably not a successful one, given how often you get
things wrong when you exercise your 'skills' on me. plus the fact that
you lack the required entry educational level, so maybe best to stick to
(unqualified) mechanical work. :)
Actually, it would be best if he didn't do that either.
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proven liar."

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"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Mighty Mouse
2025-01-01 01:12:54 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Noddy
Post by MightyMouse
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
There is nothing wrong with buying a second hand car Felix.
of course there isn't. but you also take a risk of there being
problems with it, because that's the reason the previous owner sold
it. that risk can be mitigated of course by buying from a dealer, or
having it inspected by a qualified mechanic. also you don't get the
same warranty as with a new car.
Post by Noddy
Not everyone can afford new,
many new cars are cheaper than other makes second hand
Post by Noddy
and there are some great savings to be made in buying slightly used.
of course there are.
Post by Noddy
Not all cars are automatically destined to become lemons just
because they get older either, and some people would rather buy a
used "good" car than a "shit" new one.
yep. so far you have said nothing I don't already know. why would you
think I don't know these things?
Post by Noddy
Take your case for example. You bought the cheapest new car you
could find because you subscribe to the view that "new is best.
still believing you can read my mind I see. I bought it because I
wanted a SUV, and I liked this one, and the price also of course. FYI
I was considering also the Mitsubishi ASX which at the time could be
had for around $27k, but then they upped the price to around (over?)
$31k, and I didn't want to pay that much.
Post by Noddy
If that's what you like then good on you, but the strange thing
about it is that at the time you bought it you knew virtually
nothing about the car or it's track record,
yes, I took a bit of a chance on it
Post by Noddy
and already had a decent car which in the opinion of some was a
better vehicle.
that's irrelevant to what I wanted
Post by Noddy
For the same money you could have had a 3 or 4 year old Toyota
Camry, which is a car with a stellar reputation that would
absolutely shit all over the MG you have now and still be running
fine when your MG is dead and buried.
I've had a Camry. I don't like them, and I don't like buying second hand.
Post by Noddy
But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car.
no. (see previous)
Post by Noddy
Given the choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry.
so what. I do what I want. what others want is irrelevant to what I want
Post by Noddy
Myself included.
you missed your calling in life, it seems. given your penchant for
psychoanalysis, you might have been happier being a psychologist or
psychiatrist, but probably not a successful one, given how often you
get things wrong when you exercise your 'skills' on me. plus the fact
that you lack the required entry educational level, so maybe best to
stick to (unqualified) mechanical work. :)
Actually, it would be best if he didn't do that either.
:)
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2025-01-01 01:41:42 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Noddy
Post by MightyMouse
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
There is nothing wrong with buying a second hand car Felix.
of course there isn't. but you also take a risk of there being problems
with it, because that's the reason the previous owner sold it. that risk
can be mitigated of course by buying from a dealer, or having it
inspected by a qualified mechanic. also you don't get the same warranty
as with a new car.
Post by Noddy
Not everyone can afford new,
many new cars are cheaper than other makes second hand
Post by Noddy
and there are some great savings to be made in buying slightly used.
of course there are.
Post by Noddy
Not all cars are automatically destined to become lemons just because
they get older either, and some people would rather buy a used "good"
car than a "shit" new one.
yep. so far you have said nothing I don't already know. why would you
think I don't know these things?
Post by Noddy
Take your case for example. You bought the cheapest new car you could
find because you subscribe to the view that "new is best.
still believing you can read my mind I see. I bought it because I wanted
a SUV, and I liked this one, and the price also of course. FYI I was
considering also the Mitsubishi ASX which at the time could be had for
around $27k, but then they upped the price to around (over?) $31k, and I
didn't want to pay that much.
Post by Noddy
If that's what you like then good on you, but the strange thing about
it is that at the time you bought it you knew virtually nothing about
the car or it's track record,
yes, I took a bit of a chance on it
Post by Noddy
and already had a decent car which in the opinion of some was a better
vehicle.
that's irrelevant to what I wanted
Post by Noddy
For the same money you could have had a 3 or 4 year old Toyota Camry,
which is a car with a stellar reputation that would absolutely shit
all over the MG you have now and still be running fine when your MG is
dead and buried.
I've had a Camry. I don't like them, and I don't like buying second hand.
Post by Noddy
But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car.
no. (see previous)
Post by Noddy
Given the choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry.
so what. I do what I want. what others want is irrelevant to what I want
Post by Noddy
Myself included.
you missed your calling in life, it seems. given your penchant for
psychoanalysis, you might have been happier being a psychologist or
psychiatrist, but probably not a successful one, given how often you get
things wrong when you exercise your 'skills' on me. plus the fact that
you lack the required entry educational level, so maybe best to stick to
(unqualified) mechanical work. :)
Actually, it would be best if he didn't do that either.
Definitely best for anyone whose cars he is let loose on, just ask Les. ;-)


____
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jonz
2025-01-01 08:01:56 UTC
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Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Noddy
Post by MightyMouse
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
There is nothing wrong with buying a second hand car Felix.
of course there isn't. but you also take a risk of there being problems
with it, because that's the reason the previous owner sold it. that risk
can be mitigated of course by buying from a dealer, or having it
inspected by a qualified mechanic. also you don't get the same warranty
as with a new car.
Post by Noddy
Not everyone can afford new,
many new cars are cheaper than other makes second hand
Post by Noddy
and there are some great savings to be made in buying slightly used.
of course there are.
Post by Noddy
Not all cars are automatically destined to become lemons just because
they get older either, and some people would rather buy a used "good"
car than a "shit" new one.
yep. so far you have said nothing I don't already know. why would you
think I don't know these things?
Post by Noddy
Take your case for example. You bought the cheapest new car you could
find because you subscribe to the view that "new is best.
still believing you can read my mind I see. I bought it because I wanted
a SUV, and I liked this one, and the price also of course. FYI I was
considering also the Mitsubishi ASX which at the time could be had for
around $27k, but then they upped the price to around (over?) $31k, and I
didn't want to pay that much.
Post by Noddy
If that's what you like then good on you, but the strange thing about
it is that at the time you bought it you knew virtually nothing about
the car or it's track record,
yes, I took a bit of a chance on it
Post by Noddy
and already had a decent car which in the opinion of some was a better
vehicle.
that's irrelevant to what I wanted
Post by Noddy
For the same money you could have had a 3 or 4 year old Toyota Camry,
which is a car with a stellar reputation that would absolutely shit
all over the MG you have now and still be running fine when your MG is
dead and buried.
I've had a Camry. I don't like them, and I don't like buying second hand.
Post by Noddy
But you wanted a new car for the sake of having a new car.
no. (see previous)
Post by Noddy
Given the choice a great many other people would have chosen the Camry.
so what. I do what I want. what others want is irrelevant to what I want
Post by Noddy
Myself included.
you missed your calling in life, it seems. given your penchant for
psychoanalysis, you might have been happier being a psychologist or
psychiatrist, but probably not a successful one, given how often you get
things wrong when you exercise your 'skills' on me. plus the fact that
you lack the required entry educational level, so maybe best to stick to
(unqualified) mechanical work. :)
Actually, it would be best if he didn't do that either.
Definitely best for anyone whose cars he is let loose on, just ask Les. ;-)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A fable which you continue to resurrect every second day. All
googled, reams of it, and *nothing proved*.
Definitely *Dazzle them with brilliance, or (every time he
spruicks) baffle them with bullshit!!!

Yer a one trick pony krypsis, well past yer UBD.

BTW, ask Les what exactly?.
Post by Xeno
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Clocky
2024-12-30 22:36:05 UTC
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Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any grief.
Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks he's
making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
You would have been far better off buying a 5 year old Toyota over any
new Chinese brand.
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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
MightyMouse
2024-12-30 23:47:42 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any
grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks
he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
You would have been far better off buying a 5 year old Toyota over any
new Chinese brand.
that's assuming I would have been happy with a five year old second hand
car, and wanted a sedan. the reality is that I would not be, and I
wanted a SUV. I will never buy my a second hand car.
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Clocky
2025-01-01 00:55:17 UTC
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Post by MightyMouse
Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any
grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks
he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
You would have been far better off buying a 5 year old Toyota over any
new Chinese brand.
that's assuming I would have been happy with a five year old second hand
car, and wanted a sedan.
There are plenty of options for second hand low km SUV's.

the reality is that I would not be, and I
Post by MightyMouse
wanted a SUV. I will never buy my a second hand car.
It's your money.
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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Mighty Mouse
2025-01-01 01:08:28 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys
them for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives
any grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who
thinks he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
You would have been far better off buying a 5 year old Toyota over
any new Chinese brand.
that's assuming I would have been happy with a five year old second
hand car, and wanted a sedan.
There are plenty of options for second hand low km SUV's.
no doubt. but I don't buy second hand cars. and I think you'll find that
low mileage cars are not a heck of a lot cheaper than new. Xeno
mentioned that recently too regarding Toyota vehicles.
Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
the reality is that I would not be, and I wanted a SUV. I will never
buy a second hand car.
It's your money.
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2025-01-01 01:12:02 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys
them for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives
any grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who
thinks he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
You would have been far better off buying a 5 year old Toyota over
any new Chinese brand.
that's assuming I would have been happy with a five year old second
hand car, and wanted a sedan.
There are plenty of options for second hand low km SUV's.
no doubt. but I don't buy second hand cars. and I think you'll find that
low mileage cars are not a heck of a lot cheaper than new. Xeno
mentioned that recently too regarding Toyota vehicles.
A few grand is a few grand. Of course I'm looking at it from the
perspective of a mechanic which is a bit different to that of someone
who's not going to be working on their own car if something does go
wrong out of warranty.
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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
alvey
2025-01-01 03:35:20 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Clocky
Post by MightyMouse
Post by Xeno
Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys
them for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives
any grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who
thinks he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
You would have been far better off buying a 5 year old Toyota over
any new Chinese brand.
that's assuming I would have been happy with a five year old second
hand car, and wanted a sedan.
There are plenty of options for second hand low km SUV's.
no doubt. but I don't buy second hand cars. and I think you'll find
that low mileage cars are not a heck of a lot cheaper than new. Xeno
mentioned that recently too regarding Toyota vehicles.
A few grand is a few grand. Of course I'm looking at it from the
perspective of a mechanic which is a bit different to that of someone
who's not going to be working on their own car if something does go
wrong out of warranty.
Which is the key point in this Sloppy Seconds v New argument. The vast
majority of car buyers have neither the skills, facilities, time and
probably interest to do their own maintenance and repairs. Well and good
if you're a retired spanner twirler, but for the overwhelming majority a
new car is more attractive option. Especially since new cars became
relatively cheaper.(a)


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(a) Golden Oldie: Remember the idiot who declared that comparing sticker
prices across the decades was the only valid way of equating car prices?
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MightyMouse
2025-01-01 08:36:45 UTC
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https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think
they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys
them for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it
gives any grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next
owner who thinks he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
You would have been far better off buying a 5 year old Toyota
over any new Chinese brand.
that's assuming I would have been happy with a five year old
second hand car, and wanted a sedan.
There are plenty of options for second hand low km SUV's.
no doubt. but I don't buy second hand cars. and I think you'll find
that low mileage cars are not a heck of a lot cheaper than new. Xeno
mentioned that recently too regarding Toyota vehicles.
A few grand is a few grand. Of course I'm looking at it from the
perspective of a mechanic which is a bit different to that of someone
who's not going to be working on their own car if something does go
wrong out of warranty.
Which is the key point in this Sloppy Seconds v New argument. The vast
majority of car buyers have neither the skills, facilities, time and
probably interest to do their own maintenance and repairs. Well and
good if you're a retired spanner twirler, but for the overwhelming
majority a new car is more attractive option. Especially since new
cars became relatively cheaper.(a)
new cars are way cheaper than decades ago, and astronomically cheaper
than last century. my first car was cost two year salary and wasn't even
new, in fact it was about 20 years old!
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alvey
(a) Golden Oldie: Remember the idiot who declared that comparing
sticker prices across the decades was the only valid way of equating
car prices?
yep! and no prize for guessing who correctly
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Noddy
2025-01-01 01:42:20 UTC
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There are plenty of options for second hand low km SUV's.
This ↑↑↑↑
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no doubt. but I don't buy second hand cars.
Yeah, as has been established, you like to buy new.
Post by Mighty Mouse
And I think you'll find that low mileage cars are not a heck of a lot cheaper than new.
Actually Felix if you looked into it in some detail rather than guessing
as to what you think happens, you'd find that slightly used are often
considerably cheaper than new, which is a matter of necessity for the
seller otherwise no one would ever buy the things.
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Xeno mentioned that recently too regarding Toyota vehicles.
What, did he mention another conveniently placed "friend"?
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Xeno
2025-01-01 05:54:25 UTC
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There are plenty of options for second hand low km SUV's.
This ↑↑↑↑
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no doubt. but I don't buy second hand cars.
Yeah, as has been established, you like to buy new.
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And I think you'll find that low mileage cars are not a heck of a lot cheaper than new.
Actually Felix if you looked into it in some detail rather than guessing
as to what you think happens, you'd find that slightly used are often
considerably cheaper than new, which is a matter of necessity for the
seller otherwise no one would ever buy the things.
Only if they are shitty SUVs Darren. Good quality reliable SUVs hold
their value throughout their life - like Toyotas. Your problem, you buy
shitty SUVs.
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Xeno mentioned that recently too regarding Toyota vehicles.
What, did he mention another conveniently placed "friend"?
Look Darren, I'm sorry you don't have any friends and I sure don't envy
your lack. But, as I have oft proven, my friends do exist. Remember, I
gave you Asanka's phone number so you could call him yourself but did
you do that? Nah, you squibbed out - as usual.
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Xeno
2025-01-01 01:35:57 UTC
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https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any
grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks
he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
You would have been far better off buying a 5 year old Toyota over any
new Chinese brand.
that's assuming I would have been happy with a five year old second hand
car, and wanted a sedan.
There are plenty of options for second hand low km SUV's.
the reality is that I would not be, and I
Post by MightyMouse
wanted a SUV. I will never buy my a second hand car.
It's your money.
And that is precisely the point - it’s his money therefore his choice
regardless of whatever anyone else thinks is the value point. I get where
Felix is coming from, I am of the same view. I can afford it, I want new.
My days of buying used cars are over, I’ve become accustomed to that new
smell you only get once and briefly with a car.

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Xeno
jonz
2025-01-01 08:18:39 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any
grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks
he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
You would have been far better off buying a 5 year old Toyota over any
new Chinese brand.
that's assuming I would have been happy with a five year old second hand
car, and wanted a sedan.
There are plenty of options for second hand low km SUV's.
the reality is that I would not be, and I
Post by MightyMouse
wanted a SUV. I will never buy my a second hand car.
It's your money.
And that is precisely the point - it’s his money therefore his choice
regardless of whatever anyone else thinks is the value point. I get where
Felix is coming from, I am of the same view. I can afford it, I want new.
My days of buying used cars are over, I’ve become accustomed to that new
smell you only get once and briefly with a car.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No cigar, the cat beat you to that.
BTW, the NCS will linger longer if you don`t drop bits of pie
floater all over the place. To late?. next time eh!.
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Xeno
Daryl
2025-01-01 09:27:24 UTC
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Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-
japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any
grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks
he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Daryl advises buying second hand cars. nuff said!
You would have been far better off buying a 5 year old Toyota over any
new Chinese brand.
that's assuming I would have been happy with a five year old second hand
car, and wanted a sedan.
There are plenty of options for second hand low km SUV's.
the reality is that I would not be, and I
Post by MightyMouse
wanted a SUV. I will never buy my a second hand car.
It's your money.
And that is precisely the point - it’s his money therefore his choice
regardless of whatever anyone else thinks is the value point. I get where
Felix is coming from, I am of the same view. I can afford it, I want new.
My days of buying used cars are over, I’ve become accustomed to that new
smell you only get once and briefly with a car.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 No cigar, the cat beat you to that.
     BTW, the NCS will linger longer if you don`t drop bits of pie
floater all over the place. To late?. next time eh!.
Just buy some "new car smell air freshener" from your local car
accessory shop and save a fortune, much cheaper than a new car:-)
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Xeno
2025-01-01 10:12:55 UTC
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Just buy some "new car smell air freshener" from your local car
accessory shop and save a fortune, much cheaper than a new car:-)
But that's fake! Not as fake as Darren but still fake and likely as
toxic as he.
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
alvey
2024-12-30 23:06:33 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them for
a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any grief.
Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks he's making
a killing on the depreciation saving.
Yep.
See my earlier post today which highlights the danger of buying 2nd hand
& out of warranty.


alvey
Xeno
2024-12-31 00:00:09 UTC
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Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any grief.
Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks he's
making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Yep.
See my earlier post today which highlights the danger of buying 2nd hand
& out of warranty.
alvey
Yep, won't get any disagreement out of me there. I recall when I was
looking for something late model low mileage for my wife in 2016.
Anything that fitted the bill was damn pricey. For example, Andrew had a
nice Swift, 3 years old, $3k off the new price. I thought, bugger that,
bought a new one with *all* the factory warranty, only delivery ks on
the clock, and the all important *new smell*. Still only done 60k klms
and drives like a new car. And she was very happy with it - winner!
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
alvey
2024-12-31 00:55:28 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is- the-
star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any
grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks
he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Yep.
See my earlier post today which highlights the danger of buying 2nd
hand & out of warranty.
alvey
Yep, won't get any disagreement out of me there. I recall when I was
looking for something late model low mileage for my wife in 2016.
Anything that fitted the bill was damn pricey. For example, Andrew had a
nice Swift, 3 years old, $3k off the new price. I thought, bugger that,
bought a new one with *all* the factory warranty, only delivery ks on
the clock, and the all important *new smell*. Still only done 60k klms
and drives like a new car. And she was very happy with it - winner!
Have you seen the new Swift? Dunno anything about them but their styling
is about ten times more attractive than the old one. Reminiscent of an
old Cooper S and pretty funky imo. If it's reasonably nippy it could be
an ideal town car.


alvey
Xeno
2024-12-31 01:40:01 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-
is- the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
For Alvey it's not a problem, he buys them new, uses and enjoys them
for a time, then moves on to his next one *before* it gives any
grief. Basically, he leaves the grief to the next owner who thinks
he's making a killing on the depreciation saving.
Yep.
See my earlier post today which highlights the danger of buying 2nd
hand & out of warranty.
alvey
Yep, won't get any disagreement out of me there. I recall when I was
looking for something late model low mileage for my wife in 2016.
Anything that fitted the bill was damn pricey. For example, Andrew had
a nice Swift, 3 years old, $3k off the new price. I thought, bugger
that, bought a new one with *all* the factory warranty, only delivery
ks on the clock, and the all important *new smell*. Still only done
60k klms and drives like a new car. And she was very happy with it -
winner!
Have you seen the new Swift? Dunno anything about them but their styling
is about ten times more attractive than the old one. Reminiscent of an
old Cooper S and pretty funky imo. If it's reasonably nippy it could be
an ideal town car.
Yeah, was following one yesterday. That new model shape (3rd gen) was
released a year or so after we bought ours.
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
alvey
2024-12-30 23:02:47 UTC
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https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-the-
star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
"Maybe" is right. The A35 isn't a 'bad' car, but I won't be buying
another Merc. It just lacks the personality and the hard edges that my
Audis & (one of) the Bimmers had.

Next car will be electric, and probably more sedate, but haven't made a
choice yet. It def won't be a Tesla though.
MightyMouse
2024-12-30 23:33:02 UTC
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Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-the-
star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
"Maybe" is right. The A35 isn't a 'bad' car, but I won't be buying
another Merc. It just lacks the personality and the hard edges that my
Audis & (one of) the Bimmers had.
Next car will be electric, and probably more sedate, but haven't made
a choice yet. It def won't be a Tesla though.
you like sitting on a battery cooking your balls then..
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Xeno
2024-12-30 23:50:04 UTC
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Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
"Maybe" is right. The A35 isn't a 'bad' car, but I won't be buying
another Merc. It just lacks the personality and the hard edges that my
Audis & (one of) the Bimmers had.
Next car will be electric, and probably more sedate, but haven't made a
choice yet. It def won't be a Tesla though.
No BEVs in my future, a hybrid ... maybe.
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Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
alvey
2024-12-31 01:09:00 UTC
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Post by alvey
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Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
"Maybe" is right. The A35 isn't a 'bad' car, but I won't be buying
another Merc. It just lacks the personality and the hard edges that my
Audis & (one of) the Bimmers had.
Next car will be electric, and probably more sedate, but haven't made
a choice yet. It def won't be a Tesla though.
No BEVs in my future, a hybrid ... maybe.
What's the advantage of a hybrid? To me it seems that they increase the
number of things that can go wrong/break.


alvey
Xeno
2024-12-31 01:42:10 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-
is- the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
"Maybe" is right. The A35 isn't a 'bad' car, but I won't be buying
another Merc. It just lacks the personality and the hard edges that
my Audis & (one of) the Bimmers had.
Next car will be electric, and probably more sedate, but haven't made
a choice yet. It def won't be a Tesla though.
No BEVs in my future, a hybrid ... maybe.
What's the advantage of a hybrid? To me it seems that they increase the
number of things that can go wrong/break.
That would be the normal expectation but my hybrid will only be a Toyota
and they go forever! ;-)
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Clocky
2025-01-01 01:07:11 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is- the-
star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
"Maybe" is right. The A35 isn't a 'bad' car, but I won't be buying
another Merc. It just lacks the personality and the hard edges that
my Audis & (one of) the Bimmers had.
Next car will be electric, and probably more sedate, but haven't made
a choice yet. It def won't be a Tesla though.
No BEVs in my future, a hybrid ... maybe.
What's the advantage of a hybrid? To me it seems that they increase the
number of things that can go wrong/break.
Not if it's a Toyota. Actually, not many problems with hybrids period.
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proven liar."

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alvey
2025-01-01 03:37:20 UTC
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Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-
the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
"Maybe" is right. The A35 isn't a 'bad' car, but I won't be buying
another Merc. It just lacks the personality and the hard edges that
my Audis & (one of) the Bimmers had.
Next car will be electric, and probably more sedate, but haven't
made a choice yet. It def won't be a Tesla though.
No BEVs in my future, a hybrid ... maybe.
What's the advantage of a hybrid? To me it seems that they increase
the number of things that can go wrong/break.
Not if it's a Toyota. Actually, not many problems with hybrids period.
Possibly, but what are the advantages?
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Xeno
2025-01-01 06:14:26 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
Post by Clocky
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-
is- the- star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Most not so dumb to be buying German crap anyway.
Like your mate alvey eh?
I think he's cured. Maybe.
"Maybe" is right. The A35 isn't a 'bad' car, but I won't be buying
another Merc. It just lacks the personality and the hard edges that
my Audis & (one of) the Bimmers had.
Next car will be electric, and probably more sedate, but haven't
made a choice yet. It def won't be a Tesla though.
No BEVs in my future, a hybrid ... maybe.
What's the advantage of a hybrid? To me it seems that they increase
the number of things that can go wrong/break.
Not if it's a Toyota. Actually, not many problems with hybrids period.
Possibly, but what are the advantages?
Reduced fuel consumption without masses of incidental CO2 emissions

Hybrids should be our interim goal in the move to carbon neutrality
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Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
alvey
2024-12-30 03:31:30 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-the-
star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Whereas the reverse remains unshakeably true...



alvey
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Xeno
2024-12-30 03:38:50 UTC
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https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-the-
star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Whereas the reverse remains unshakeably true...
alvey
Beat me to it! :-(
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Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Clocky
2024-12-30 09:30:57 UTC
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Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
https://www.drive.com.au/news/forget-thailand-and-china-japan-is-the-
star-of-australias-2024-car-industry/
That's good to see, maybe people aren't as dumb as I think they are:-)
Whereas the reverse remains unshakeably true...
lol
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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
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