Discussion:
Aramex
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Keithr0
2024-12-02 05:37:26 UTC
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I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it reckons
that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support. So I found
an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a supplier in Perth.
I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he reported that he had
shipped it and sent a tracking number. The tracking number came from a
courier mob called Aramex and indicated that the goods had indeed been
picked up on the 13th. The tracking did not updated, and after a cpouple
of weeks I tried to contact Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but
also they have internet chat, but they don't answer that either. I
checked reviews for them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long
delays, and unresponsive.

The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from Perth
to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that time.
Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship by Aramex.

Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
Daryl
2024-12-02 07:05:32 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it reckons
that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support. So I found
an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a supplier in Perth.
I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he reported that he had
shipped it and sent a tracking number. The tracking number came from a
courier mob called Aramex and indicated that the goods had indeed been
picked up on the 13th. The tracking did not updated, and after a cpouple
of weeks I tried to contact Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but
also they have internet chat, but they don't answer that either. I
checked reviews for them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long
delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from Perth
to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that time.
Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship by Aramex.
They sound pretty bad but shipping times for just about anything can be
all over the place.
We have a Nespresso coffee machine and we order coffee pods online, its
not unusual to receive the order less than 24hrs after placing it whilst
items from other Melb based companies can take weeks.
Post by Keithr0
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
Sound like a good plan.
Shipping times from China can be extremely variable, from a couple of
days to 6 weeks for the same items ordered from the same supplier.
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Noddy
2024-12-02 10:10:13 UTC
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Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from
Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that
time. Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship
by Aramex.
They sound pretty bad but shipping times for just about anything can be
all over the place.
We have a Nespresso coffee machine and we order coffee pods online, its
not unusual to receive the order less than 24hrs after placing it whilst
items from other Melb based companies can take weeks.
Same deal with our dishwasher. It's a Miele that uses a special
detergent cartridge that contains about 30 washes per cartridge, and I
buy a 6 month's supply from Miele in NSW. It's usually ready to be
picked up from the Bacchus post office within 48 hours of placing the order.
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
Sound like a good plan.
Shipping times from China can be extremely variable, from a couple of
days to 6 weeks for the same items ordered from the same supplier.
I find most stuff to ship pretty quickly.
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Trevor Wilson
2024-12-02 08:11:29 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it reckons
that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support. So I found
an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a supplier in Perth.
I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he reported that he had
shipped it and sent a tracking number. The tracking number came from a
courier mob called Aramex and indicated that the goods had indeed been
picked up on the 13th. The tracking did not updated, and after a cpouple
of weeks I tried to contact Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but
also they have internet chat, but they don't answer that either. I
checked reviews for them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long
delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from Perth
to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that time.
Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new (prolly a
year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't checked, but I assume
they're a large, foreign owned company, that has bought out some of the
larger trucking companies. Either that, or they're a new guy on the
block and are undercutting all the other freight companies.

They are not good.
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Keithr0
2024-12-02 10:00:35 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support.
So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a
supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he
reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking number. The
tracking number came from a courier mob called Aramex and indicated
that the goods had indeed been picked up on the 13th. The tracking did
not updated, and after a cpouple of weeks I tried to contact Aramex,
they don't answer their phone, but also they have internet chat, but
they don't answer that either. I checked reviews for them, a solid 1
star out of 5, the same story long delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from
Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that
time. Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship
by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new (prolly a
year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't checked, but I assume
they're a large, foreign owned company, that has bought out some of the
larger trucking companies. Either that, or they're a new guy on the
block and are undercutting all the other freight companies.
They are not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramex
Xeno
2024-12-02 11:19:56 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support.
So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a
supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he
reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking number. The
tracking number came from a courier mob called Aramex and indicated
that the goods had indeed been picked up on the 13th. The tracking
did not updated, and after a cpouple of weeks I tried to contact
Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but also they have internet
chat, but they don't answer that either. I checked reviews for them,
a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from
Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that
time. Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship
by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new (prolly a
year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't checked, but I
assume they're a large, foreign owned company, that has bought out
some of the larger trucking companies. Either that, or they're a new
guy on the block and are undercutting all the other freight companies.
They are not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramex
I noticed that all the Fastway couriers here changed their branding to
Aramex. Don't have an issue with our local Aramex couriers.
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Trevor Wilson
2024-12-13 08:55:14 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support.
So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a
supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he
reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking number. The
tracking number came from a courier mob called Aramex and indicated
that the goods had indeed been picked up on the 13th. The tracking
did not updated, and after a cpouple of weeks I tried to contact
Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but also they have internet
chat, but they don't answer that either. I checked reviews for them,
a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from
Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that
time. Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship
by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new (prolly a
year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't checked, but I
assume they're a large, foreign owned company, that has bought out
some of the larger trucking companies. Either that, or they're a new
guy on the block and are undercutting all the other freight companies.
They are not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramex
**YIKES! That explains a great deal.
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Daryl
2024-12-13 11:14:27 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support.
So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a
supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he
reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking number. The
tracking number came from a courier mob called Aramex and indicated
that the goods had indeed been picked up on the 13th. The tracking
did not updated, and after a cpouple of weeks I tried to contact
Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but also they have internet
chat, but they don't answer that either. I checked reviews for them,
a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from
Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that
time. Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship
by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new (prolly a
year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't checked, but I
assume they're a large, foreign owned company, that has bought out
some of the larger trucking companies. Either that, or they're a new
guy on the block and are undercutting all the other freight companies.
They are not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramex
**YIKES! That explains a great deal.
I had a parcel delivered by them last Saturday, tracking said that it
was due last Friday so only one day late and it took approx one week Syd
to Melb so nothing unusual.
Interesting that the delivery vehicle was a Camry sedan, they must be
getting desperate if they need to use private cars to do deliveries on a
Saturday.
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Trevor Wilson
2024-12-13 23:13:38 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
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Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life
support. So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price
from a supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the same day
he reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking number. The
tracking number came from a courier mob called Aramex and indicated
that the goods had indeed been picked up on the 13th. The tracking
did not updated, and after a cpouple of weeks I tried to contact
Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but also they have internet
chat, but they don't answer that either. I checked reviews for
them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long delays, and
unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from
Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in
that time. Next time I order something online, I will specify do
NOT ship by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new (prolly
a year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't checked, but I
assume they're a large, foreign owned company, that has bought out
some of the larger trucking companies. Either that, or they're a new
guy on the block and are undercutting all the other freight companies.
They are not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramex
**YIKES! That explains a great deal.
I had a parcel delivered by them last Saturday, tracking said that it
was due last Friday so only one day late and it took approx one week Syd
to Melb so nothing unusual.
Interesting that the delivery vehicle was a Camry sedan, they must be
getting desperate if they need to use private cars to do deliveries on a
Saturday.
**I am available almost every day of the week. My doorbell senses anyone
who approaches the front door and records any movement. Despite this, I
frequently receive email notifications that my package has been
delivered and was signed for. When I receive such an email, I walk out
to the front fence, where the package has been dropped over the fence.
Only since Aramex arrived has this shit been happening.
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Daryl
2024-12-14 00:12:30 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life
support. So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price
from a supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the same
day he reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking number.
The tracking number came from a courier mob called Aramex and
indicated that the goods had indeed been picked up on the 13th.
The tracking did not updated, and after a cpouple of weeks I tried
to contact Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but also they
have internet chat, but they don't answer that either. I checked
reviews for them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long
delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from
Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in
that time. Next time I order something online, I will specify do
NOT ship by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new (prolly
a year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't checked, but I
assume they're a large, foreign owned company, that has bought out
some of the larger trucking companies. Either that, or they're a
new guy on the block and are undercutting all the other freight
companies.
They are not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramex
**YIKES! That explains a great deal.
I had a parcel delivered by them last Saturday, tracking said that it
was due last Friday so only one day late and it took approx one week
Syd to Melb so nothing unusual.
Interesting that the delivery vehicle was a Camry sedan, they must be
getting desperate if they need to use private cars to do deliveries on
a Saturday.
**I am available almost every day of the week. My doorbell senses anyone
who approaches the front door and records any movement. Despite this, I
frequently receive email notifications that my package has been
delivered and was signed for. When I receive such an email, I walk out
to the front fence, where the package has been dropped over the fence.
Only since Aramex arrived has this shit been happening.
Very likely because they pay their drivers bugger all, they simply don't
get paid enough to do the job properly, some of the per parcel rates
they get paid in 2024 are less what what I was paid back in the late
80's, only difference is now the volumes are higher and they can deliver
more in the same time but still overall the pay is pretty poor which is
why the service is crap.
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Keithr0
2024-12-14 05:07:43 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Daryl
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life
support. So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable
price from a supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the
same day he reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking
number. The tracking number came from a courier mob called Aramex
and indicated that the goods had indeed been picked up on the
13th. The tracking did not updated, and after a cpouple of weeks
I tried to contact Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but
also they have internet chat, but they don't answer that either.
I checked reviews for them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the same
story long delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days
from Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle
in that time. Next time I order something online, I will specify
do NOT ship by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the
original radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable
state, I ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in
just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new
(prolly a year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't
checked, but I assume they're a large, foreign owned company, that
has bought out some of the larger trucking companies. Either that,
or they're a new guy on the block and are undercutting all the
other freight companies.
They are not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramex
**YIKES! That explains a great deal.
I had a parcel delivered by them last Saturday, tracking said that it
was due last Friday so only one day late and it took approx one week
Syd to Melb so nothing unusual.
Interesting that the delivery vehicle was a Camry sedan, they must be
getting desperate if they need to use private cars to do deliveries
on a Saturday.
**I am available almost every day of the week. My doorbell senses
anyone who approaches the front door and records any movement. Despite
this, I frequently receive email notifications that my package has
been delivered and was signed for. When I receive such an email, I
walk out to the front fence, where the package has been dropped over
the fence. Only since Aramex arrived has this shit been happening.
Very likely because they pay their drivers bugger all, they simply don't
get paid enough to do the job properly, some of the per parcel rates
they get paid in 2024 are less what what I was paid back in the late
80's, only difference is now the volumes are higher and they can deliver
more in the same time but still overall the pay is pretty poor which is
why the service is crap.
Amazon has it's problems too. I was expecting a package with a pair of
Sony Earphones, and a set of spanners. I got a tracking number, and
Amazons tracking showed the package originating in Dandenong, and
traveling to a place in NSW, and there it stayed. The due date went
past, and Amazon said that the package may be lost and I could apply for
a refund. Checking the couriers tracking site rather than Amazon,
indicated that they had received the paperwork, but not the article.
More checking showed that the last location was actually an Amazon
warehouse.

On Amazons website there is a button to get them to call back. The phone
rang 2 minutes later, the operator processed a refund within minutes. So
while Amazon can fuck up too, they do give a fuck where Aramex don't.

I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a similar
set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it meant that I
had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
Trevor Wilson
2024-12-14 05:40:53 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life
support. So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable
price from a supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the
same day he reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking
number. The tracking number came from a courier mob called
Aramex and indicated that the goods had indeed been picked up on
the 13th. The tracking did not updated, and after a cpouple of
weeks I tried to contact Aramex, they don't answer their phone,
but also they have internet chat, but they don't answer that
either. I checked reviews for them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the
same story long delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days
from Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a
bicycle in that time. Next time I order something online, I will
specify do NOT ship by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the
original radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a
usable state, I ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from
China in just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new
(prolly a year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't
checked, but I assume they're a large, foreign owned company,
that has bought out some of the larger trucking companies. Either
that, or they're a new guy on the block and are undercutting all
the other freight companies.
They are not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramex
**YIKES! That explains a great deal.
I had a parcel delivered by them last Saturday, tracking said that
it was due last Friday so only one day late and it took approx one
week Syd to Melb so nothing unusual.
Interesting that the delivery vehicle was a Camry sedan, they must
be getting desperate if they need to use private cars to do
deliveries on a Saturday.
**I am available almost every day of the week. My doorbell senses
anyone who approaches the front door and records any movement.
Despite this, I frequently receive email notifications that my
package has been delivered and was signed for. When I receive such an
email, I walk out to the front fence, where the package has been
dropped over the fence. Only since Aramex arrived has this shit been
happening.
Very likely because they pay their drivers bugger all, they simply
don't get paid enough to do the job properly, some of the per parcel
rates they get paid in 2024 are less what what I was paid back in the
late 80's, only difference is now the volumes are higher and they can
deliver more in the same time but still overall the pay is pretty poor
which is why the service is crap.
Amazon has it's problems too. I was expecting a package with a pair of
Sony Earphones, and a set of spanners. I got a tracking number, and
Amazons tracking showed the package originating in Dandenong, and
traveling to a place in NSW, and there it stayed. The due date went
past, and Amazon said that the package may be lost and I could apply for
a refund. Checking the couriers tracking site rather than Amazon,
indicated that they had received the paperwork, but not the article.
More checking showed that the last location was actually an Amazon
warehouse.
On Amazons website there is a button to get them to call back. The phone
rang 2 minutes later, the operator processed a refund within minutes. So
while Amazon can fuck up too, they do give a fuck where Aramex don't.
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a similar
set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it meant that I
had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
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Daryl
2024-12-14 06:33:55 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it
meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also
noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had
jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
LOL, owning an old car outright and paying for petrol even at double
that price is still heaps cheaper than any EV.
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Xeno
2024-12-14 10:48:25 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it
meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also
noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had
jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
LOL, owning an old car outright and paying for petrol even at double
that price is still heaps cheaper than any EV.
Until they do what they are now doing in China.
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Noddy
2024-12-14 06:48:03 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it
meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also
noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had
jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)

Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think paying
120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their garage 99% of
the time being used as a household generator is a good idea.

Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my old
V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my paper and
coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any planet saving
goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.

So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go totally
"green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting all over that
for you.

You're welcome :)
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alvey
2024-12-14 08:23:25 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it
meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also
noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had
jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think paying
120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their garage 99% of
the time being used as a household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my old
V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my paper and
coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any planet saving
goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go totally
"green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting all over that
for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.

What you are is an insane arsehole.

Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?



alvey
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2024-12-14 10:14:52 UTC
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Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it
meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also
noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had
jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think paying
120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their garage 99%
of the time being used as a household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my
old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my
paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any planet
saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to achieve
in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go totally
"green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting all over
that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02 emissions
will make one scrap of difference re global warming or climate change or
whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling
us what we can and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of
perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's.
and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them, then
dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they can control our
spending, and who knows what's next.
Post by alvey
alvey
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Xeno
2024-12-14 11:06:11 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it
meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also
noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had
jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think paying
120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their garage 99%
of the time being used as a household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my
old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my
paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any planet
saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to achieve
in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go totally
"green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting all over
that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02 emissions
will make one scrap of difference re global warming or climate change or
whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling
us what we can and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of
perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's.
Other countries let you keep a car on the road for only 5 or 10 years.
In China currently they are OBDing ICE cars off the roads.
Post by Mighty Mouse
and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them, then
dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas
Ultimately, solar panels on every house was a good idea, albeit with
teething issues.
Post by Mighty Mouse
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they can control our
spending, and who knows what's next.
They don't want to *control* your spending, they just want to *monitor*
it. Just like they want to monitor your *earnings* to ensure you pay
your fair share of tax.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
alvey
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Mighty Mouse
2024-12-15 21:51:28 UTC
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Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but
it meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I
also noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays,
petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their
garage 99% of the time being used as a household generator is a
good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my
old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my
paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any
planet saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to
achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go
totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting
all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02 emissions
will make one scrap of difference re global warming or climate change
or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt
telling us what we can and can't or must do. they want us to get rid
of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's.
Other countries let you keep a car on the road for only 5 or 10 years.
In China currently they are OBDing ICE cars off the roads.
Post by Mighty Mouse
and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them,
then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have
gas
Ultimately, solar panels on every house was a good idea, albeit with
teething issues.
Post by Mighty Mouse
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they can control our
spending, and who knows what's next.
They don't want to *control* your spending, they just want to
*monitor* it. Just like they want to monitor your *earnings* to ensure
you pay your fair share of tax.
monitoring can lead to control. remember when the govt introduced a
special card for abbos.. err.. indigenous Australians, to use in lieu of
paying funds into their bank accounts? it couldn't be used to buy
alcoholic drinks.
Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
alvey
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stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
alvey
2024-12-14 11:32:43 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it
meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also
noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had
jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think paying
120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their garage 99%
of the time being used as a household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my
old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my
paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any planet
saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to achieve
in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go totally
"green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting all over
that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02 emissions
will make one scrap of difference re global warming or climate change or
whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling
us what we can and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of
perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's.
and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them, then
dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they can control our
spending, and who knows what's next.
Sigh. It's so hard to get good sycophants these days.
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2024-12-14 20:45:36 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but
it meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also
noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had
jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think paying
120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their garage
99% of the time being used as a household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my
old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my
paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any planet
saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to achieve
in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go totally
"green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting all over
that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02 emissions
will make one scrap of difference re global warming or climate change
or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt
telling us what we can and can't or must do. they want us to get rid
of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install
them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't
have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they can
control our spending, and who knows what's next.
The Karma Finale:

In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is shut
up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to start it up to
test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick
adjustment is required to he starts to climb out of the car, but slips
and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.

Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.

hth


alvey
btw, excellent Trump/Fraudster parody there felix.
'get rid of cash so they can control our spending'! Hahahahaha
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-15 01:41:12 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but
it meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I
also noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays,
petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their
garage 99% of the time being used as a household generator is a
good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my
old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my
paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any
planet saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to
achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go
totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting
all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming or
climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so
sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or must do. they
want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace
them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with solar panels.
got everyone to install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and
now they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want to
get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and who knows
what's next.
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is shut
up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to start it up to
test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick
adjustment is required to he starts to climb out of the car, but slips
and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
Post by alvey
hth
alvey
btw, excellent Trump/Fraudster parody there felix.
 'get rid of cash so they can control our spending'!
you think it can't/won't happen? think again. what about the Amazon
stores you can't get into without a credit card? not the same thing, but
in the same vein. if it becomes the norm that we have no way to
buy/spend anonymously i.e by using cash, then who knows what could
happen, or what controls the govt could impose.
Post by alvey
Hahahahaha
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2024-12-15 03:39:18 UTC
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Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but
it meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I
also noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays,
petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their
garage 99% of the time being used as a household generator is a
good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my
old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my
paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any
planet saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to
achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go
totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting
all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming or
climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so
sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or must do. they
want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace
them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with solar panels.
got everyone to install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and
now they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want to
get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and who knows
what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is shut
up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to start it up to
test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick
adjustment is required to he starts to climb out of the car, but slips
and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;

"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire is
0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE) passenger
vehicles".

Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...



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2024-12-15 04:18:52 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and
a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative),
but it meant that I had to fight the crowds down in
boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD
school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange
coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in
their garage 99% of the time being used as a household generator
is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up
my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get
my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any
planet saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope
to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger
and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go
totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there
shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming or
climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so
sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or must do. they
want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace
them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with solar panels.
got everyone to install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and
now they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want to
get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and who knows
what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is
shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to start
it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss' it
starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb out of
the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in
the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire is
0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
Given that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
statistics can be misleading. what is the ratio of fires in EV's to the
total number of EV's, compared to same for ICE's
Post by alvey
alvey
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stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
alvey
2024-12-15 07:29:33 UTC
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Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and
a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative),
but it meant that I had to fight the crowds down in
boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD
school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange
coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in
their garage 99% of the time being used as a household generator
is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up
my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get
my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any
planet saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope
to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger
and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go
totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there
shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming or
climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so
sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or must do. they
want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace
them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with solar panels.
got everyone to install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and
now they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want to
get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and who knows
what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is
shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to start
it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss' it
starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb out of
the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in
the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire is
0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
Given that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
statistics can be misleading. what is the ratio of fires in EV's to the
total number of EV's, compared to same for ICE's
Eh? The way I read it, the Swinburne data answers your questions, but it
written ambiguously.

Try this one: https://tinyurl.com/ytkcjw4j

I suspect that reporting on EVs in Oz is in the same condition as
reporting on our politics. Throttled by the icy grip of the Dread Murdoch.


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2024-12-15 07:58:52 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more,
and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a
relative), but it meant that I had to fight the crowds down
in boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD
school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in
their garage 99% of the time being used as a household
generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start
up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town
to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally
negates any planet saving goodness you and your electric
vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger
and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to
go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there
shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming or
climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so
sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or must do.
they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and
replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with
solar panels. got everyone to install them, then dropped the
feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they can
control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is
shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to start
it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss' it
starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb out
of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read the
rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire is
0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
Given that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
statistics can be misleading. what is the ratio of fires in EV's to
the total number of EV's, compared to same for ICE's
Eh? The way I read it, the Swinburne data answers your questions, but
it written ambiguously.
Try this one: https://tinyurl.com/ytkcjw4j
I suspect that reporting on EVs in Oz is in the same condition as
reporting on our politics. Throttled by the icy grip of the Dread Murdoch.
it's ok. I'd been working on computers all day, and my brain had/has
stopped working!
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alvey
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more,
and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a
relative), but it meant that I had to fight the crowds down
in boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD
school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in
their garage 99% of the time being used as a household
generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start
up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town
to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally
negates any planet saving goodness you and your electric
vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger
and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to
go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there
shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming or
climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so
sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or must do.
they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and
replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with
solar panels. got everyone to install them, then dropped the
feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they can
control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is
shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to start
it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss' it
starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb out
of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read the
rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire is
0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
Given that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
statistics can be misleading. what is the ratio of fires in EV's to
the total number of EV's, compared to same for ICE's
Eh? The way I read it, the Swinburne data answers your questions, but
it written ambiguously.
Try this one: https://tinyurl.com/ytkcjw4j
I suspect that reporting on EVs in Oz is in the same condition as
reporting on our politics. Throttled by the icy grip of the Dread Murdoch.
it's ok. I'd been working on computers all day, and my brain had/has
stopped working!
I've just done a 700 km shopping trip. Went up to Pacific Fair on the
Gold Coast just so the wife could catch up with her David Jones
shopping. Left home at 7:15am, completed shopping by 1:00pm, caught up
with friends at Ashmore until 3pm, home by 6:15pm. My brain is still
working but I am tired. It was but a few weeks ago I did a quick trip to
Brisbane Airport for an international pickup - that was easier than
shopping at DJs with a woman.
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alvey
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-15 21:38:18 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more,
and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a
relative), but it meant that I had to fight the crowds
down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day
of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to
$2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start
up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town
to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally
negates any planet saving goodness you and your electric
vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE
cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned
us with solar panels. got everyone to install them, then
dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't
have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss'
it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb
out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read
the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
Given that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
statistics can be misleading. what is the ratio of fires in EV's to
the total number of EV's, compared to same for ICE's
Eh? The way I read it, the Swinburne data answers your questions,
but it written ambiguously.
Try this one: https://tinyurl.com/ytkcjw4j
I suspect that reporting on EVs in Oz is in the same condition as
reporting on our politics. Throttled by the icy grip of the Dread Murdoch.
it's ok. I'd been working on computers all day, and my brain had/has
stopped working!
I've just done a 700 km shopping trip. Went up to Pacific Fair on the
Gold Coast just so the wife could catch up with her David Jones shopping.
I think they shut up shop in Melbourne. but still in the burbs
Post by Xeno
Left home at 7:15am, completed shopping by 1:00pm, caught up with
friends at Ashmore until 3pm, home by 6:15pm. My brain is still
working but I am tired. It was but a few weeks ago I did a quick trip
to Brisbane Airport for an international pickup - that was easier than
shopping at DJs with a woman.
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alvey
--
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-15 11:18:56 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more,
and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a
relative), but it meant that I had to fight the crowds down
in boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD
school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in
their garage 99% of the time being used as a household
generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up
my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to
get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally
negates any planet saving goodness you and your electric
vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger
and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to
go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there
shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming or
climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so
sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or must do.
they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and
replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with
solar panels. got everyone to install them, then dropped the feed
in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas appliances.
and they want to get rid of cash, so they can control our
spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is
shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to start
it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss' it
starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb out of
the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in
the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire is
0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate only
to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the Chinese
increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt those numbers
up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per day average.
Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of fires skewed the numbers.
Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears to
be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical bypass
but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue since they
have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
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alvey
--
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Xeno
2024-12-15 11:50:37 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more,
and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a
relative), but it meant that I had to fight the crowds down
in boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD
school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in
their garage 99% of the time being used as a household
generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up
my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to
get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally
negates any planet saving goodness you and your electric
vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger
and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to
go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there
shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming or
climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so
sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or must do.
they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and
replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with
solar panels. got everyone to install them, then dropped the feed
in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas appliances.
and they want to get rid of cash, so they can control our
spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is
shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to start
it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss' it
starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb out of
the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in
the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire is
0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate only
to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the Chinese
increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt those numbers
up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per day average.
Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of fires skewed the numbers.
Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears to
be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical bypass
but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue since they
have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-inside-burning-tesla

This article points out some of the details I mentioned re electronic
and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know* where the manual
releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly likely you will not.
That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal. Note, one passenger in the
car was saved by a bystander who broke a window and hauled a female
passenger out. Would he, had he the time, been able to haul out burly
male passengers? Through a window aperture?

As far as I'm concerned, you can stick your BEVs where the sun don't
shine. I suggest everyone do the same *until and unless* something much
more safe than current battery tech is developed.
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-15 21:33:49 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more,
and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a
relative), but it meant that I had to fight the crowds down
in boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD
school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in
their garage 99% of the time being used as a household
generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start
up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town
to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally
negates any planet saving goodness you and your electric
vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger
and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to
go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there
shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE
cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned
us with solar panels. got everyone to install them, then
dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't
have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is
shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss'
it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb
out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read
the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt those
numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per
day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of fires skewed
the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish stocktake
events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears to
be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical bypass
but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue since they
have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re electronic
and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know* where the
manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly likely you
will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd hate
to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
Post by Xeno
As far as I'm concerned, you can stick your BEVs where the sun don't
shine. I suggest everyone do the same *until and unless* something
much more safe than current battery tech is developed.
I agree! what surprises me is how quickly car companies have produced
them, and so many models. they must have been planning for and designing
them years ago. it's testimony to the ability of the car industry to
adapt production. I guess robots and computer control makes that possible.

(cue keefy "silly little etc.,)
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stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Keithr0
2024-12-15 23:38:00 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more,
and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a
relative), but it meant that I had to fight the crowds down
in boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD
school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in
their garage 99% of the time being used as a household
generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start
up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town
to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally
negates any planet saving goodness you and your electric
vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger
and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to
go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there
shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE
cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned
us with solar panels. got everyone to install them, then
dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't
have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is
shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss'
it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb
out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read
the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt those
numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per
day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of fires skewed
the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish stocktake
events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears to
be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical bypass
but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue since they
have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re electronic
and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know* where the
manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly likely you
will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in a
different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own safety.

The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and the
door unable to be opened from either side
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd hate
to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked the
doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat locked them
as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car that I've driven
over there. They all though could be unlocked from inside, personally I
disliked the idea because, if you were unconscious after a crash, rescue
would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a remote,
only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second time to
unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently it's to
prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side. Yanks are more
than a little paranoid.
Noddy
2024-12-16 00:34:51 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked the
doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat locked them
as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car that I've driven
over there. They all though could be unlocked from inside, personally I
disliked the idea because, if you were unconscious after a crash, rescue
would be difficult.
Many new cars here have auto door locking as standard, and some are
certainly smart about it. Take our Kia Sorento for example.It
automatically locks the doors once the vehicle goes over 15km/h, and
automatically unlocks them again once the car is stopped and put in
park. In the event of a collision serious enough to deploy the bags it
automatically unlocks the doors, turns on the hazzard flashers and calls
emergency services to give them your location.

This isn't new. Our 5 year old Hyundai Santa Fe did the same thing.
Post by Keithr0
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a remote,
only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second time to
unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently it's to
prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side. Yanks are more
than a little paranoid.
Again, standard practice here for years with some cars. Holden
Commodores had had such a feature since the early 2000's, and possibly
earlier. For some it's useful, for others it's a pain in the arse.

Other cars have similar features with varying degrees of programming
ability or function. My Kid's 2012 Hyundai Elantra does it in reverse in
that it will automatically lock the doors once you go over 20km/k I
think it is, but won't unlock the any doors until you turn the key off
at which point it will unlock the driver's door only. To unlock all
doors you need to take the key out of the ignition.

In every car that I've ever been in auto lock doors can be opened
manually in exactly the same fashion as a manually locked door can be.
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Noddy.
Xeno
2024-12-16 01:44:27 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked the
doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat locked
them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car that I've
driven over there. They all though could be unlocked from inside,
personally I disliked the idea because, if you were unconscious after
a crash, rescue would be difficult.
Many new cars here have auto door locking as standard, and some are
certainly smart about it. Take our Kia Sorento for example.It
automatically locks the doors once the vehicle goes over 15km/h, and
automatically unlocks them again once the car is stopped and put in
park. In the event of a collision serious enough to deploy the bags it
automatically unlocks the doors, turns on the hazzard flashers and calls
emergency services to give them your location.
This isn't new. Our 5 year old Hyundai Santa Fe did the same thing.
Hell, your comprehension skills are severely lacking! The issue is *not*
with auto door locking. It's with the lack of a *mechanical override* in
case of accident, battery failure or the like.
Post by Noddy
Post by Keithr0
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a remote,
only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second time to
unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently it's to
prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side. Yanks are
more than a little paranoid.
Again, standard practice here for years with some cars. Holden
Commodores had had such a feature since the early 2000's, and possibly
earlier. For some it's useful, for others it's a pain in the arse.
In those cars, the locks can generally be opened *from the inside*
regardless of the lock's status - child safety locks excepted
Post by Noddy
Other cars have similar features with varying degrees of programming
ability or function. My Kid's 2012 Hyundai Elantra does it in reverse in
that it will automatically lock the doors once you go over 20km/k I
think it is, but won't unlock the any doors until you turn the key off
at which point it will unlock the driver's door only. To unlock all
doors you need to take the key out of the ignition.
In every car that I've ever been in auto lock doors can be opened
manually in exactly the same fashion as a manually locked door can be.
The issue is with BEVs, vehicles you have *no experience with*
--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-16 06:18:18 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er)
ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they
conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them,
then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we
can't have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash,
so they can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in
a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own
safety.
except that the driver has responsibility for the safety of his
passengers. but if you own a great car like an MG ZS there's no issue,
you just pull the door handle!
Post by Keithr0
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
I didn't know they couldn't be opened from the outside
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked the
doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat locked
them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car that I've
driven over there.
not only in the US. plenty of cars sold here and in other countries lock
the doors once the car is moving at a certain speed, typically 15 Klmph
Post by Keithr0
They all though could be unlocked from inside, personally I disliked
the idea because, if you were unconscious after a crash, rescue would
be difficult.
ppl could just smash the windows to open the doors, unless there were
none around
Post by Keithr0
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a remote,
only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second time to
unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently it's to
prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side. Yanks are
more than a little paranoid.
I think it's a good idea
--
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Keithr0
2024-12-16 06:45:17 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er)
ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they
conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them,
then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we
can't have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash,
so they can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in
a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own
safety.
except that the driver has responsibility for the safety of his
passengers. but if you own a great car like an MG ZS there's no issue,
you just pull the door handle!
Post by Keithr0
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
I didn't know they couldn't be opened from the outside
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked the
doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat locked
them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car that I've
driven over there.
not only in the US. plenty of cars sold here and in other countries lock
the doors once the car is moving at a certain speed, typically 15 Klmph
There are now, but it started in the US, I still don't know what it
achieves.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Keithr0
They all though could be unlocked from inside, personally I disliked
the idea because, if you were unconscious after a crash, rescue would
be difficult.
ppl could just smash the windows to open the doors, unless there were
none around
If there is someone around with the means to smash the window, fists
aren't going to do it.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Keithr0
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a remote,
only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second time to
unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently it's to
prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side. Yanks are
more than a little paranoid.
I think it's a good idea
That's because you are paranoid
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-16 10:34:06 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped
from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have
it sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can
and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly
good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He
needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in
and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he
starts to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself
out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs
is 8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get
in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your
own safety.
except that the driver has responsibility for the safety of his
passengers. but if you own a great car like an MG ZS there's no
issue, you just pull the door handle!
Post by Keithr0
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
I didn't know they couldn't be opened from the outside
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke
a window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the
time, been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a
window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked
the doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat
locked them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car
that I've driven over there.
not only in the US. plenty of cars sold here and in other countries
lock the doors once the car is moving at a certain speed, typically
15 Klmph
There are now, but it started in the US, I still don't know what it
achieves.
it prevents car jacking and occupants exiting a moving vehicle
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Keithr0
They all though could be unlocked from inside, personally I disliked
the idea because, if you were unconscious after a crash, rescue
would be difficult.
ppl could just smash the windows to open the doors, unless there were
none around
If there is someone around with the means to smash the window, fists
aren't going to do it.
that's why you should have one of these in the car ..
https://tinyurl.com/5n7hx393
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Keithr0
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a
remote, only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a
second time to unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why,
apparently it's to prevent a mugger from jumping in from the
passenger side. Yanks are more than a little paranoid.
I think it's a good idea
That's because you are paranoid
that's just your worthless opinion
--
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Noddy
2024-12-17 03:56:31 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
not only in the US. plenty of cars sold here and in other countries
lock the doors once the car is moving at a certain speed, typically 15
Klmph
There are now, but it started in the US, I still don't know what it
achieves.
If you genuinely don't know what it achieves then I would suggest there
is something wrong with you. It's *obvious* why it exists, and given the
rising number of car jackings and aggravated thefts even in this county
there are many who no doubt find it a very useful feature.
--
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Regards,
Noddy.
Clocky
2024-12-17 11:54:32 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and
can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good
old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's.
and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs
to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine
(ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in
a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own
safety.
except that the driver has responsibility for the safety of his
passengers. but if you own a great car like an MG ZS there's no issue,
you just pull the door handle!
Post by Keithr0
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
I didn't know they couldn't be opened from the outside
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the
time, been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window
aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked
the doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat
locked them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car
that I've driven over there.
not only in the US. plenty of cars sold here and in other countries
lock the doors once the car is moving at a certain speed, typically 15
Klmph
There are now, but it started in the US, I still don't know what it
achieves.
It helps prevent car jackings obviously. Are you demented?
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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped
from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have
it sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can
and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly
good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He
needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in
and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he
starts to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself
out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs
is 8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get
in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your
own safety.
except that the driver has responsibility for the safety of his
passengers. but if you own a great car like an MG ZS there's no
issue, you just pull the door handle!
Post by Keithr0
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
I didn't know they couldn't be opened from the outside
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke
a window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the
time, been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a
window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked
the doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat
locked them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car
that I've driven over there.
not only in the US. plenty of cars sold here and in other countries
lock the doors once the car is moving at a certain speed, typically
15 Klmph
There are now, but it started in the US, I still don't know what it
achieves.
It helps prevent car jackings obviously. Are you demented?
It would certainly seem that way!
--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Xeno
2024-12-16 07:06:26 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er)
ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they
conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them,
then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we
can't have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash,
so they can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in
a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own
safety.
The above sounds like a bit of bullshit.
Post by Mighty Mouse
except that the driver has responsibility for the safety of his
passengers. but if you own a great car like an MG ZS there's no issue,
you just pull the door handle!
Yep, safe, simple and, most importantly, effective.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Keithr0
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
I didn't know they couldn't be opened from the outside
I just tried my Toy. Even with the child lock on the rear doors engaged,
I was still able to open the doors from the outside - as long as I had
unlocked all doors with the fob. The inside lock wasn't operable but the
outside was. Naturally the fob will lock, in the case of my Toy, all
doors to access from outside. That seems to be SOP and I haven't seen
any other mode of operation.

Hey, maybe that's why a lot of Taxi companies standardised on Toyotas -
logical operations.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked the
doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat locked
them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car that I've
driven over there.
not only in the US. plenty of cars sold here and in other countries lock
the doors once the car is moving at a certain speed, typically 15 Klmph
Post by Keithr0
They all though could be unlocked from inside, personally I disliked
the idea because, if you were unconscious after a crash, rescue would
be difficult.
ppl could just smash the windows to open the doors, unless there were
none around
Post by Keithr0
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a remote,
only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second time to
unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently it's to
prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side. Yanks are
more than a little paranoid.
I think it's a good idea
--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-16 10:37:25 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped
from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have
it sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can
and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly
good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He
needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in
and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he
starts to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself
out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs
is 8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get
in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your
own safety.
The above sounds like a bit of bullshit.
considering the source, it most probably is..
Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
except that the driver has responsibility for the safety of his
passengers. but if you own a great car like an MG ZS there's no
issue, you just pull the door handle!
Yep, safe, simple and, most importantly, effective.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Keithr0
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
I didn't know they couldn't be opened from the outside
I just tried my Toy. Even with the child lock on the rear doors
engaged, I was still able to open the doors from the outside - as long
as I had unlocked all doors with the fob. The inside lock wasn't
operable but the outside was. Naturally the fob will lock, in the case
of my Toy, all doors to access from outside. That seems to be SOP and
I haven't seen any other mode of operation.
I'll try the MG tomorrow
Post by Xeno
Hey, maybe that's why a lot of Taxi companies standardised on Toyotas
- logical operations.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke
a window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the
time, been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a
window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked
the doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat
locked them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car
that I've driven over there.
not only in the US. plenty of cars sold here and in other countries
lock the doors once the car is moving at a certain speed, typically
15 Klmph
Post by Keithr0
They all though could be unlocked from inside, personally I disliked
the idea because, if you were unconscious after a crash, rescue
would be difficult.
ppl could just smash the windows to open the doors, unless there were
none around
Post by Keithr0
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a
remote, only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a
second time to unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why,
apparently it's to prevent a mugger from jumping in from the
passenger side. Yanks are more than a little paranoid.
I think it's a good idea
--
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Clocky
2024-12-16 07:29:33 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more,
and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a
relative), but it meant that I had to fight the crowds
down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day
of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to
$2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start
up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town
to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally
negates any planet saving goodness you and your electric
vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE
cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned
us with solar panels. got everyone to install them, then
dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't
have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss'
it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb
out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read
the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is 8
per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of fires
skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish
stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re electronic
and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know* where the
manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly likely you
will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in a
different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and the
door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked the
doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat locked them
as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car that I've driven
over there. They all though could be unlocked from inside, personally I
disliked the idea because, if you were unconscious after a crash, rescue
would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a remote,
only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second time to
unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently it's to
prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side. Yanks are more
than a little paranoid.
Places like the US and South Africa where carjacking is common it's a
good feature to have.

There are many places in the world beyond the limiting visibility of
your eyebrows that you're ignorant of.
--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Xeno
2024-12-16 09:48:57 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er)
ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they
conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them,
then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we
can't have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash,
so they can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in
a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own
safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Yep, proved it a while ago on the Toy, the Swift will be no different.
They have been like that for *decades* now.
Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked the
doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat locked
them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car that I've
driven over there. They all though could be unlocked from inside,
personally I disliked the idea because, if you were unconscious after
a crash, rescue would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a remote,
only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second time to
unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently it's to
prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side. Yanks are
more than a little paranoid.
Places like the US and South Africa where carjacking is common it's a
good feature to have.
There are many places in the world beyond the limiting visibility of
your eyebrows that you're ignorant of.
--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Keithr0
2024-12-16 10:55:38 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
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Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er)
ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they
conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them,
then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we
can't have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash,
so they can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in
a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own
safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Of course they can if the car is unlocked, but that is not what was
being talked about. Try and keep up.
Clocky
2024-12-16 12:37:28 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and
can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good
old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's.
and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs
to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine
(ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in
a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own
safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Of course they can if the car is unlocked, but that is not what was
being talked about. Try and keep up.
If the car can't be opened from inside or out the child locks are
completely irrelevant you twit.
--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Xeno
2024-12-16 22:24:09 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped
from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have
it sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can
and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly
good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He
needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in
and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he
starts to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself
out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs
is 8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get
in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your
own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Of course they can if the car is unlocked, but that is not what was
being talked about. Try and keep up.
If the car can't be opened from inside or out the child locks are
completely irrelevant you twit.
I love the way he said that the child door locks was not what was being
talked about yet *he* was the one who introduced childproof door locks
with this comment;
Post by Clocky
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
and, the door unable to be opened from either side
--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Clocky
2024-12-16 22:41:15 UTC
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Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings
(present for a relative), but it meant that I had to
fight the crowds down in boganville. I also noticed
that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol
had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence
there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have
it sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend
your money on to go totally "green", knowing full well
that I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle
choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate
C02 emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can
and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly
good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone
to install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He
needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets
in and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to
he starts to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks
himself out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may
relate only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change
as the Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have
to hunt those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate
of BEVs is 8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a
spate of fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers
include some Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might
know* where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's
highly likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it
criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get
in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your
own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
and the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Of course they can if the car is unlocked, but that is not what was
being talked about. Try and keep up.
If the car can't be opened from inside or out the child locks are
completely irrelevant you twit.
I love the way he said that the child door locks was not what was being
talked about yet *he* was the one who introduced childproof door locks
with this comment;
Post by Clocky
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
and, the door unable to be opened from either side
Indeed.
--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-17 00:30:09 UTC
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Post by Clocky
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Post by Clocky
Post by Keithr0
Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings
(present for a relative), but it meant that I had to
fight the crowds down in boganville. I also noticed
that, on the first day of QLD school holidays,
petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange
coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay
would think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only
to have it sit in their garage 99% of the time being
used as a household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a
drive into town to get my paper and coffee, that one
15 minute trip totally negates any planet saving
goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to
achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend
your money on to go totally "green", knowing full well
that I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his
lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate
C02 emissions will make one scrap of difference re
global warming or climate change or whatever the fuck
the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us
what we can and can't or must do. they want us to get
rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them
at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with solar
panels. got everyone to install them, then dropped the
feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG.
He needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he
gets in and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is
required to he starts to climb out of the car, but slips
and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in the
Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may
relate only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to
change as the Chinese increase their marketing drive here.
I'll have to hunt those numbers up. BTW, in China, the
current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per day average. Used to be 7
until recently but a spate of fires skewed the numbers.
Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might
know* where the manual releases are located. As a passenger,
it's highly likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call
it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as
a passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you
get in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for
your own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
and the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Of course they can if the car is unlocked, but that is not what was
being talked about. Try and keep up.
If the car can't be opened from inside or out the child locks are
completely irrelevant you twit.
of course
Post by Clocky
Post by Xeno
I love the way he said that the child door locks was not what was
being talked about yet *he* was the one who introduced childproof
door locks with this comment;
 > The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
 > and, the door unable to be opened from either side
nup. if the car is unlocked the doors can be opened from outside with
the child locks on, just not from inside. I checked the MG
Post by Clocky
Indeed.
--
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Xeno
2024-12-17 00:47:55 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings
(present for a relative), but it meant that I had to
fight the crowds down in boganville. I also noticed
that, on the first day of QLD school holidays,
petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange
coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay
would think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only
to have it sit in their garage 99% of the time being
used as a household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a
drive into town to get my paper and coffee, that one
15 minute trip totally negates any planet saving
goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to
achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend
your money on to go totally "green", knowing full well
that I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his
lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate
C02 emissions will make one scrap of difference re
global warming or climate change or whatever the fuck
the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us
what we can and can't or must do. they want us to get
rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them
at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with solar
panels. got everyone to install them, then dropped the
feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG.
He needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he
gets in and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is
required to he starts to climb out of the car, but slips
and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in the
Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may
relate only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to
change as the Chinese increase their marketing drive here.
I'll have to hunt those numbers up. BTW, in China, the
current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per day average. Used to be 7
until recently but a spate of fires skewed the numbers.
Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might
know* where the manual releases are located. As a passenger,
it's highly likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call
it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as
a passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you
get in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for
your own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
and the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Of course they can if the car is unlocked, but that is not what was
being talked about. Try and keep up.
If the car can't be opened from inside or out the child locks are
completely irrelevant you twit.
of course
Post by Xeno
I love the way he said that the child door locks was not what was
being talked about yet *he* was the one who introduced childproof
door locks with this comment;
 > The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
 > and, the door unable to be opened from either side
nup. if the car is unlocked the doors can be opened from outside with
the child locks on, just not from inside. I checked the MG
Yup, same as it has always been for decades now, 40+ years that I can
recall. It was nothing more than a snib button obscured by the slam
plate when the door was closed. Very low tech - but effective. In fact,
my Toy is almost identical to the first I ever saw, no need to address
perfection obviously.
--
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Keithr0
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings
(present for a relative), but it meant that I had to
fight the crowds down in boganville. I also noticed
that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol
had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence
there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have
it sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a
drive into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15
minute trip totally negates any planet saving goodness
you and your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in
a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend
your money on to go totally "green", knowing full well
that I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his
lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate
C02 emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the
current label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what
we can and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of
perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge
cost with EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got
everyone to install them, then dropped the feed in
tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they can
control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG.
He needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he
gets in and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is
required to he starts to climb out of the car, but slips
and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in the
Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may
relate only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to
change as the Chinese increase their marketing drive here.
I'll have to hunt those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current
burn rate of BEVs is 8 per day average. Used to be 7 until
recently but a spate of fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if
those numbers include some Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might
know* where the manual releases are located. As a passenger,
it's highly likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call
it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get
in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your
own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
and the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Of course they can if the car is unlocked, but that is not what was
being talked about. Try and keep up.
If the car can't be opened from inside or out the child locks are
completely irrelevant you twit.
I love the way he said that the child door locks was not what was
being talked about yet *he* was the one who introduced childproof door
locks with this comment;
 > The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
 > and, the door unable to be opened from either side
God! you're a pair of idiots, if the car doors are locked, and the child
locks are on, then the door cannot be opened from either side. Simple
enough for you?
Xeno
2024-12-17 06:45:33 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings
(present for a relative), but it meant that I had to
fight the crowds down in boganville. I also noticed
that, on the first day of QLD school holidays,
petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange
coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay
would think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only
to have it sit in their garage 99% of the time being
used as a household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a
drive into town to get my paper and coffee, that one
15 minute trip totally negates any planet saving
goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to
achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend
your money on to go totally "green", knowing full well
that I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his
lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate
C02 emissions will make one scrap of difference re
global warming or climate change or whatever the fuck
the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us
what we can and can't or must do. they want us to get
rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them
at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with solar
panels. got everyone to install them, then dropped the
feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG.
He needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he
gets in and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is
required to he starts to climb out of the car, but slips
and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in the
Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may
relate only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to
change as the Chinese increase their marketing drive here.
I'll have to hunt those numbers up. BTW, in China, the
current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per day average. Used to be 7
until recently but a spate of fires skewed the numbers.
Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might
know* where the manual releases are located. As a passenger,
it's highly likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call
it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as
a passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you
get in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for
your own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
and the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Of course they can if the car is unlocked, but that is not what was
being talked about. Try and keep up.
If the car can't be opened from inside or out the child locks are
completely irrelevant you twit.
I love the way he said that the child door locks was not what was
being talked about yet *he* was the one who introduced childproof
door locks with this comment;
 > The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
 > and, the door unable to be opened from either side
God! you're a pair of idiots, if the car doors are locked, and the child
locks are on, then the door cannot be opened from either side. Simple
enough for you?
Correct, that point has been made after being introduced by you and is
what cars have had for 40+ years that I am aware of. What relevance does
it have to cars with electronic locks with *no manual means* of
override? FWIW, the first time ever I *used* one of those child safety
locks was the other night when I verified how my Toyota ones operated -
yep, same as they always have, nothing new there.
--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Clocky
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings
(present for a relative), but it meant that I had to
fight the crowds down in boganville. I also noticed
that, on the first day of QLD school holidays,
petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange
coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay
would think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only
to have it sit in their garage 99% of the time being
used as a household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a
drive into town to get my paper and coffee, that one
15 minute trip totally negates any planet saving
goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to
achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend
your money on to go totally "green", knowing full well
that I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his
lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate
C02 emissions will make one scrap of difference re
global warming or climate change or whatever the fuck
the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us
what we can and can't or must do. they want us to get
rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them
at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with solar
panels. got everyone to install them, then dropped the
feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't have gas
appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG.
He needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he
gets in and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is
required to he starts to climb out of the car, but slips
and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in the
Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may
relate only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to
change as the Chinese increase their marketing drive here.
I'll have to hunt those numbers up. BTW, in China, the
current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per day average. Used to be 7
until recently but a spate of fires skewed the numbers.
Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might
know* where the manual releases are located. As a passenger,
it's highly likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call
it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as
a passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you
get in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for
your own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
and the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Of course they can if the car is unlocked, but that is not what was
being talked about. Try and keep up.
If the car can't be opened from inside or out the child locks are
completely irrelevant you twit.
I love the way he said that the child door locks was not what was
being talked about yet *he* was the one who introduced childproof
door locks with this comment;
 > The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
 > and, the door unable to be opened from either side
God! you're a pair of idiots, if the car doors are locked, and the child
locks are on, then the door cannot be opened from either side. Simple
enough for you?
Your comment is redundant you dumb cunt. For fucks sake get tested already.
--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
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2024-12-17 09:43:33 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a
dollar more, and a similar set of spanners a
Bunnings (present for a relative), but it meant
that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville.
I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD school
holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay
would think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only
to have it sit in their garage 99% of the time being
used as a household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time
I start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a
drive into town to get my paper and coffee, that one
15 minute trip totally negates any planet saving
goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to
achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend
your money on to go totally "green", knowing full
well that I'll be out there shitting all over that
for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his
lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate
C02 emissions will make one scrap of difference re
global warming or climate change or whatever the fuck
the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling
us what we can and can't or must do. they want us to
get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace
them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with
solar panels. got everyone to install them, then
dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we
can't have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of
cash, so they can control our spending, and who knows
what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG.
He needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he
gets in and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is
required to he starts to climb out of the car, but slips
and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in the
Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries
catching fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal
combustion engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may
relate only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to
change as the Chinese increase their marketing drive here.
I'll have to hunt those numbers up. BTW, in China, the
current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per day average. Used to be 7
until recently but a spate of fires skewed the numbers.
Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner,
they have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might
know* where the manual releases are located. As a passenger,
it's highly likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call
it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as
a passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you
get in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for
your own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
and the door unable to be opened from either side
They can be opened from outside with the child lock on.
Of course they can if the car is unlocked, but that is not what
was being talked about. Try and keep up.
If the car can't be opened from inside or out the child locks are
completely irrelevant you twit.
I love the way he said that the child door locks was not what was
being talked about yet *he* was the one who introduced childproof
door locks with this comment;
 > The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged,
 > and, the door unable to be opened from either side
God! you're a pair of idiots, if the car doors are locked, and the
child locks are on, then the door cannot be opened from either side.
Simple enough for you?
Your comment is redundant you dumb cunt. For fucks sake get tested already.
all filler no killer.
Daryl
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more,
and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a
relative), but it meant that I had to fight the crowds
down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day
of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to
$2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start
up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town
to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally
negates any planet saving goodness you and your electric
vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE
cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned
us with solar panels. got everyone to install them, then
dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't
have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss'
it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb
out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read
the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is 8
per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of fires
skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish
stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re electronic
and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know* where the
manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly likely you
will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in a
different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and the
door unable to be opened from either side
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked the
doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat locked them
as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car that I've driven
over there. They all though could be unlocked from inside, personally I
disliked the idea because, if you were unconscious after a crash, rescue
would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a remote,
only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second time to
unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently it's to
prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side. Yanks are more
than a little paranoid.
My MB and my wifes Golf both lock their doors above a certain low speed
of something like 10kph, AFAIK the MB unlocks the doors if a crash is
strong enough to set off an airbag or a crash sensor, very likely the VW
is the same, both can be unlocked from inside using the internal door
handles.
You notice an audible clunk when the doors lock, Porsche might also lock
the doors but if it does I never notice any sound.
First car I drove with auto door locking was a 1978 Toyota Crown so its
certainly not a new idea, my son and his girlfriend both own MB and both
cars lock their doors automatically.
According to a fireman I know in a BEV fire the flames are not as
dangerous as the fumes which are very toxic, he said that if you see an
EV on fire if you can't get the occupants out in 30 secs just run away
because they as good as dead anyway and you are putting yourself in
extreme danger if you inhale any of the fumes.
--
Daryl
Keithr0
2024-12-17 06:13:34 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er)
ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they
conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them,
then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we
can't have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash,
so they can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in
a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own
safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked the
doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat locked
them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car that I've
driven over there. They all though could be unlocked from inside,
personally I disliked the idea because, if you were unconscious after
a crash, rescue would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a remote,
only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second time to
unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently it's to
prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side. Yanks are
more than a little paranoid.
My MB and my wifes Golf both lock their doors above a certain low speed
of something like 10kph, AFAIK the MB unlocks the doors if a crash is
strong enough to set off an airbag or a crash sensor, very likely the VW
is the same, both can be unlocked from inside using the internal door
handles.
You notice an audible clunk when the doors lock, Porsche might also lock
the doors but if it does I never notice any sound.
First car I drove with auto door locking was a 1978 Toyota Crown so its
certainly not a new idea, my son and his girlfriend both own MB and both
cars lock their doors automatically.
According to a fireman I know in a BEV fire the flames are not as
dangerous as the fumes which are very toxic, he said that if you see an
EV on fire if you can't get the occupants out in 30 secs just run away
because they as good as dead anyway and you are putting yourself in
extreme danger if you inhale any of the fumes.
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion, the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent the
doors from opening in a crash.
Xeno
2024-12-17 06:47:56 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and
can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good
old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's.
and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs
to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine
(ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in
a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own
safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the
time, been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window
aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked
the doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat
locked them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car
that I've driven over there. They all though could be unlocked from
inside, personally I disliked the idea because, if you were
unconscious after a crash, rescue would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a
remote, only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second
time to unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently
it's to prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side.
Yanks are more than a little paranoid.
My MB and my wifes Golf both lock their doors above a certain low
speed of something like 10kph, AFAIK the MB unlocks the doors if a
crash is strong enough to set off an airbag or a crash sensor, very
likely the VW is the same, both can be unlocked from inside using the
internal door handles.
You notice an audible clunk when the doors lock, Porsche might also
lock the doors but if it does I never notice any sound.
First car I drove with auto door locking was a 1978 Toyota Crown so
its certainly not a new idea, my son and his girlfriend both own MB
and both cars lock their doors automatically.
According to a fireman I know in a BEV fire the flames are not as
dangerous as the fumes which are very toxic, he said that if you see
an EV on fire if you can't get the occupants out in 30 secs just run
away because they as good as dead anyway and you are putting yourself
in extreme danger if you inhale any of the fumes.
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion, the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent the
doors from opening in a crash.
Well, actually, properly designed door locks should not open in a crash,
whether in the locked or the unlocked position. It's one of the points
noted in crash testing.
--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-17 08:49:00 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped
from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have
it sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can
and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly
good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He
needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in
and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he
starts to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself
out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs
is 8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get
in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your
own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke
a window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the
time, been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a
window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked
the doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat
locked them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car
that I've driven over there. They all though could be unlocked from
inside, personally I disliked the idea because, if you were
unconscious after a crash, rescue would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a
remote, only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a
second time to unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why,
apparently it's to prevent a mugger from jumping in from the
passenger side. Yanks are more than a little paranoid.
My MB and my wifes Golf both lock their doors above a certain low
speed of something like 10kph, AFAIK the MB unlocks the doors if a
crash is strong enough to set off an airbag or a crash sensor, very
likely the VW is the same, both can be unlocked from inside using the
internal door handles.
You notice an audible clunk when the doors lock, Porsche might also
lock the doors but if it does I never notice any sound.
First car I drove with auto door locking was a 1978 Toyota Crown so
its certainly not a new idea, my son and his girlfriend both own MB
and both cars lock their doors automatically.
According to a fireman I know in a BEV fire the flames are not as
dangerous as the fumes which are very toxic, he said that if you see
an EV on fire if you can't get the occupants out in 30 secs just run
away because they as good as dead anyway and you are putting yourself
in extreme danger if you inhale any of the fumes.
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in motion,
that's cos you're stupid. a car being driven is not always is motion. it
stops frequently, at least in the suburbs, for traffic lights,
congestion on the roadway, etc., so if the doors are locked no one can
exit or enter the vehicle.
the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent the doors
from opening in a crash.
--
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Xeno
2024-12-17 08:53:21 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped
from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have
it sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can
and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly
good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He
needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in
and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he
starts to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself
out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs
is 8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get
in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your
own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke
a window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the
time, been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a
window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked
the doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat
locked them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car
that I've driven over there. They all though could be unlocked from
inside, personally I disliked the idea because, if you were
unconscious after a crash, rescue would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a
remote, only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a
second time to unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why,
apparently it's to prevent a mugger from jumping in from the
passenger side. Yanks are more than a little paranoid.
My MB and my wifes Golf both lock their doors above a certain low
speed of something like 10kph, AFAIK the MB unlocks the doors if a
crash is strong enough to set off an airbag or a crash sensor, very
likely the VW is the same, both can be unlocked from inside using the
internal door handles.
You notice an audible clunk when the doors lock, Porsche might also
lock the doors but if it does I never notice any sound.
First car I drove with auto door locking was a 1978 Toyota Crown so
its certainly not a new idea, my son and his girlfriend both own MB
and both cars lock their doors automatically.
According to a fireman I know in a BEV fire the flames are not as
dangerous as the fumes which are very toxic, he said that if you see
an EV on fire if you can't get the occupants out in 30 secs just run
away because they as good as dead anyway and you are putting yourself
in extreme danger if you inhale any of the fumes.
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in motion,
That's one fail I'm not surprised to see. What's obvious to everyone
else is a definite whoosh moment for Keith in the bubble!
Post by Mighty Mouse
that's cos you're stupid. a car being driven is not always is motion. it
stops frequently, at least in the suburbs, for traffic lights,
congestion on the roadway, etc., so if the doors are locked no one can
exit or enter the vehicle.
the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent the doors
from opening in a crash.
--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Clocky
2024-12-17 09:03:59 UTC
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I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped
from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have
it sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can
and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly
good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He
needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in
and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he
starts to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself
out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs
is 8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get
in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your
own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke
a window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the
time, been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a
window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked
the doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat
locked them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car
that I've driven over there. They all though could be unlocked from
inside, personally I disliked the idea because, if you were
unconscious after a crash, rescue would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a
remote, only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a
second time to unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why,
apparently it's to prevent a mugger from jumping in from the
passenger side. Yanks are more than a little paranoid.
My MB and my wifes Golf both lock their doors above a certain low
speed of something like 10kph, AFAIK the MB unlocks the doors if a
crash is strong enough to set off an airbag or a crash sensor, very
likely the VW is the same, both can be unlocked from inside using the
internal door handles.
You notice an audible clunk when the doors lock, Porsche might also
lock the doors but if it does I never notice any sound.
First car I drove with auto door locking was a 1978 Toyota Crown so
its certainly not a new idea, my son and his girlfriend both own MB
and both cars lock their doors automatically.
According to a fireman I know in a BEV fire the flames are not as
dangerous as the fumes which are very toxic, he said that if you see
an EV on fire if you can't get the occupants out in 30 secs just run
away because they as good as dead anyway and you are putting yourself
in extreme danger if you inhale any of the fumes.
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in motion,
that's cos you're stupid. a car being driven is not always is motion. it
stops frequently, at least in the suburbs, for traffic lights,
congestion on the roadway, etc., so if the doors are locked no one can
exit or enter the vehicle.
That you even have to explain that to the idiot... unbelievable.
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Post by Daryl
My MB and my wifes Golf both lock their doors above a certain low
speed of something like 10kph, AFAIK the MB unlocks the doors if a
crash is strong enough to set off an airbag or a crash sensor, very
likely the VW is the same, both can be unlocked from inside using the
internal door handles.
You notice an audible clunk when the doors lock, Porsche might also
lock the doors but if it does I never notice any sound.
First car I drove with auto door locking was a 1978 Toyota Crown so
its certainly not a new idea, my son and his girlfriend both own MB
and both cars lock their doors automatically.
According to a fireman I know in a BEV fire the flames are not as
dangerous as the fumes which are very toxic, he said that if you see
an EV on fire if you can't get the occupants out in 30 secs just run
away because they as good as dead anyway and you are putting yourself
in extreme danger if you inhale any of the fumes.
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion, the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent the
doors from opening in a crash.
I simply cannot fathom how, in today's world were vehicle hijacking in
this country at least is a virtual weekly report in the media, that you
cannot see the benefits of automatic vehicle door locking.

You're not that stupid. I'm *sure* you can see it. You just don't want
to admit to it.
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Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and
can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good
old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's.
and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs
to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine
(ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get in
a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your own
safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the
time, been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window
aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked
the doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat
locked them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car
that I've driven over there. They all though could be unlocked from
inside, personally I disliked the idea because, if you were
unconscious after a crash, rescue would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a
remote, only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a second
time to unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why, apparently
it's to prevent a mugger from jumping in from the passenger side.
Yanks are more than a little paranoid.
My MB and my wifes Golf both lock their doors above a certain low
speed of something like 10kph, AFAIK the MB unlocks the doors if a
crash is strong enough to set off an airbag or a crash sensor, very
likely the VW is the same, both can be unlocked from inside using the
internal door handles.
You notice an audible clunk when the doors lock, Porsche might also
lock the doors but if it does I never notice any sound.
First car I drove with auto door locking was a 1978 Toyota Crown so
its certainly not a new idea, my son and his girlfriend both own MB
and both cars lock their doors automatically.
According to a fireman I know in a BEV fire the flames are not as
dangerous as the fumes which are very toxic, he said that if you see
an EV on fire if you can't get the occupants out in 30 secs just run
away because they as good as dead anyway and you are putting yourself
in extreme danger if you inhale any of the fumes.
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion, the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent the
doors from opening in a crash.
Its not about the doors being locked while the car is in motion, its
about them being locked when the car is stopped at traffic lights or
stopped for some other reason, prevention of car jacking etc.
Car jacking whilst not a major problem in Australia but its not unheard
of, less likely to be a problem where you or I live but certainly in
inner city areas where there are lots more people about and cars stop
and start a lot more and especially late at night.
Less likely to be a problem if the car is occupied by a couple of adult
males but I like the idea of locked doors if my wife or my 2 daughter in
laws were out alone.
It varies from car to car but even on my 22 yr old MB I can turn that
feature off if I wish, I think I can also vary the speed that it locks
at, pretty sure I also can turn it off on the Golf but since my wife
drives it most of the time it will stay on.
BTW I think its crazy to just have electronic internal door handles like
Tesla does, AFAIK they are supposed to open in a crash but it still a
crazy idea.
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Noddy
2024-12-17 10:46:37 UTC
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Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion, the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent the
doors from opening in a crash.
Its not about the doors being locked while the car is in motion, its
about them being locked when the car is stopped at traffic lights or
stopped for some other reason, prevention of car jacking etc.
Car jacking whilst not a major problem in Australia but its not unheard
of, less likely to be a problem where you or I live but certainly in
inner city areas where there are lots more people about and cars stop
and start a lot more and especially late at night.
Not just at night.

My wife was stopped at the corner of Peel and Victoria Streets in the
city a few months ago waiting to turn left into Peel Street at a red
light when some drug fucked cunt walked up to the car and tried to open
her front passenger door. Possibly to pinch her bag which was sitting on
the passenger's seat, but fuck only knows what his intentions were. He
tried the door a couple of times but it was locked thanks to the
autolock feature, and he walked off and tried another car before the
lights changed and the cars moved off.

This was at 4 o'clock in the afternoon outside Victoria Market, and this
kind of shit is becoming increasingly common in Melbourne. There is
hardly a week goes by now where there isn't a report of similar things
happening in the media every week, and in fact according to this article
there were 359 reports of attempted carjackings in Melbourne over the 12
Post by Daryl
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-delivery-drivers-increasingly-attacked-in-disturbing-trend/512449ca-1f05-4763-86a2-0026b53fa2ab
If Keith cannot look at this and see self locking doors as a benefit
then he doesn't *want* to see it.
Post by Daryl
Less likely to be a problem if the car is occupied by a couple of adult
males but I like the idea of locked doors if my wife or my 2 daughter in
laws were out alone.
Indeed.
Post by Daryl
It varies from car to car but even on my 22 yr old MB I can turn that
feature off if I wish, I think I can also vary the speed that it locks
at, pretty sure I also can turn it off on the Golf but since my wife
drives it most of the time it will stay on.
BTW I think its crazy to just have electronic internal door handles like
Tesla does, AFAIK they are supposed to open in a crash but it still a
crazy idea.
Tesla's are poorly designed and horrendously built heaps of shit, and
why anyone would *want* one is a total mystery. If people want to buy
EV's that's their choice and more power to them, but almost any other EV
is a better choice than anything made by Tesla.
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2024-12-17 22:22:37 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Tesla's are poorly designed and horrendously built heaps of shit, and
why anyone would *want* one is a total mystery.
Ashley the mystery is, 'How the hell would you know?'
Xeno
2024-12-18 01:27:43 UTC
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Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Tesla's are poorly designed and horrendously built heaps of shit, and
why anyone would *want* one is a total mystery.
Ashley the mystery is, 'How the hell would you know?'
Yep, how would he? He has never been anything more than a parasite on
the automotive trade and out of it for the past 20+ years. He's been a
pretender from day 1!
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Daryl
2024-12-17 22:40:14 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion, the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent
the doors from opening in a crash.
Its not about the doors being locked while the car is in motion, its
about them being locked when the car is stopped at traffic lights or
stopped for some other reason, prevention of car jacking etc.
Car jacking whilst not a major problem in Australia but its not
unheard of, less likely to be a problem where you or I live but
certainly in inner city areas where there are lots more people about
and cars stop and start a lot more and especially late at night.
Not just at night.
My wife was stopped at the corner of Peel and Victoria Streets in the
city a few months ago waiting to turn left into Peel Street at a red
light when some drug fucked cunt walked up to the car and tried to open
her front passenger door. Possibly to pinch her bag which was sitting on
the passenger's seat, but fuck only knows what his intentions were. He
tried the door a couple of times but it was locked thanks to the
autolock feature, and he walked off and tried another car before the
lights changed and the cars moved off.
That's scary, just as well her doors were locked.
Typical low life scumbag targeting a women on her own.
Post by Noddy
This was at 4 o'clock in the afternoon outside Victoria Market, and this
kind of shit is becoming increasingly common in Melbourne. There is
hardly a week goes by now where there isn't a report of similar things
happening in the media every week, and in fact according to this article
there were 359 reports of attempted carjackings in Melbourne over the 12
Post by Daryl
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-delivery-drivers-
increasingly-attacked-in-disturbing-
trend/512449ca-1f05-4763-86a2-0026b53fa2ab
If Keith cannot look at this and see self locking doors as a benefit
then he doesn't *want* to see it.
I suspect that he's not thinking about scenarios like you described above.
Post by Noddy
Post by Daryl
Less likely to be a problem if the car is occupied by a couple of
adult males but I like the idea of locked doors if my wife or my 2
daughter in laws were out alone.
Indeed.
Post by Daryl
It varies from car to car but even on my 22 yr old MB I can turn that
feature off if I wish, I think I can also vary the speed that it locks
at, pretty sure I also can turn it off on the Golf but since my wife
drives it most of the time it will stay on.
BTW I think its crazy to just have electronic internal door handles
like Tesla does, AFAIK they are supposed to open in a crash but it
still a crazy idea.
Tesla's are poorly designed and horrendously built heaps of shit, and
why anyone would *want* one is a total mystery. If people want to buy
EV's that's their choice and more power to them, but almost any other EV
is a better choice than anything made by Tesla.
From what I've read about them their basic design as in their
electronics and drive is excellent but build quality is typical American
and some of the features are just whacko.
A karaoke machine built into the screen is too weird for me and don't
get me started on that hideous massive screen, electronic only door
locks is IMHO dangerous and shouldn't be allowed.
Where Tesla have excelled is their charging systems, apparently they
shit all over anyone else's by a country mile and it seems that's one of
the main reasons they have sold so many cars, from what I've heard
charging an EV is the main reason people don't buy them and Tesla have
mostly solved that problem.
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Xeno
2024-12-18 01:25:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
Post by Daryl
Post by Keithr0
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion, the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent
the doors from opening in a crash.
Its not about the doors being locked while the car is in motion, its
about them being locked when the car is stopped at traffic lights or
stopped for some other reason, prevention of car jacking etc.
Car jacking whilst not a major problem in Australia but its not
unheard of, less likely to be a problem where you or I live but
certainly in inner city areas where there are lots more people about
and cars stop and start a lot more and especially late at night.
Not just at night.
My wife was stopped at the corner of Peel and Victoria Streets in the
city a few months ago waiting to turn left into Peel Street at a red
light when some drug fucked cunt walked up to the car and tried to
open her front passenger door. Possibly to pinch her bag which was
sitting on the passenger's seat, but fuck only knows what his
intentions were. He tried the door a couple of times but it was locked
thanks to the autolock feature, and he walked off and tried another
car before the lights changed and the cars moved off.
That's scary, just as well her doors were locked.
Typical low life scumbag targeting a women on her own.
Post by Noddy
This was at 4 o'clock in the afternoon outside Victoria Market, and
this kind of shit is becoming increasingly common in Melbourne. There
is hardly a week goes by now where there isn't a report of similar
things happening in the media every week, and in fact according to
this article there were 359 reports of attempted carjackings in
Post by Daryl
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-delivery-drivers-
increasingly-attacked-in-disturbing-
trend/512449ca-1f05-4763-86a2-0026b53fa2ab
If Keith cannot look at this and see self locking doors as a benefit
then he doesn't *want* to see it.
I suspect that he's not thinking about scenarios like you described above.
Post by Noddy
Post by Daryl
Less likely to be a problem if the car is occupied by a couple of
adult males but I like the idea of locked doors if my wife or my 2
daughter in laws were out alone.
Indeed.
Post by Daryl
It varies from car to car but even on my 22 yr old MB I can turn that
feature off if I wish, I think I can also vary the speed that it
locks at, pretty sure I also can turn it off on the Golf but since my
wife drives it most of the time it will stay on.
BTW I think its crazy to just have electronic internal door handles
like Tesla does, AFAIK they are supposed to open in a crash but it
still a crazy idea.
Tesla's are poorly designed and horrendously built heaps of shit, and
why anyone would *want* one is a total mystery. If people want to buy
EV's that's their choice and more power to them, but almost any other
EV is a better choice than anything made by Tesla.
From what I've read about them their basic design as in their
electronics and drive is excellent but build quality is typical American
and some of the features are just whacko.
A karaoke machine built into the screen is too weird for me and don't
get me started on that hideous massive screen, electronic only door
locks is IMHO dangerous and shouldn't be allowed.
I've mentioned it before, Tesla *do have* manual door locks on the front
doors. They just don't have them on the rear doors - and that's an issue.


Post by Daryl
Where Tesla have excelled is their charging systems, apparently they
shit all over anyone else's by a country mile and it seems that's one of
the main reasons they have sold so many cars, from what I've heard
charging an EV is the main reason people don't buy them and Tesla have
mostly solved that problem.
Nope, won't be solved until the charging station rollout is much more
extensive.
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Noddy
2024-12-18 01:49:58 UTC
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Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
My wife was stopped at the corner of Peel and Victoria Streets in the
city a few months ago waiting to turn left into Peel Street at a red
light when some drug fucked cunt walked up to the car and tried to
open her front passenger door. Possibly to pinch her bag which was
sitting on the passenger's seat, but fuck only knows what his
intentions were. He tried the door a couple of times but it was locked
thanks to the autolock feature, and he walked off and tried another
car before the lights changed and the cars moved off.
That's scary, just as well her doors were locked.
Typical low life scumbag targeting a women on her own.
From what she described I think this cunt of a thing would have tried
to open the door of a police cruiser.
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
This was at 4 o'clock in the afternoon outside Victoria Market, and
this kind of shit is becoming increasingly common in Melbourne. There
is hardly a week goes by now where there isn't a report of similar
things happening in the media every week, and in fact according to
this article there were 359 reports of attempted carjackings in
Post by Daryl
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-delivery-drivers-
increasingly-attacked-in-disturbing-
trend/512449ca-1f05-4763-86a2-0026b53fa2ab
If Keith cannot look at this and see self locking doors as a benefit
then he doesn't *want* to see it.
I suspect that he's not thinking about scenarios like you described above.
I have no idea what he's thinking. He did mention similar things he'd
seen in the US and seemed to hint at why they existed. They exist for
the exact same reason here, but for some reason he doesn't seem to want
to accept that.

I think perhaps the main reason is that he wants to maintain a stance
that is contrary to Felix and not be seen to agree with him.
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
Tesla's are poorly designed and horrendously built heaps of shit, and
why anyone would *want* one is a total mystery. If people want to buy
EV's that's their choice and more power to them, but almost any other
EV is a better choice than anything made by Tesla.
From what I've read about them their basic design as in their
electronics and drive is excellent but build quality is typical American
and some of the features are just whacko.
A karaoke machine built into the screen is too weird for me and don't
get me started on that hideous massive screen, electronic only door
locks is IMHO dangerous and shouldn't be allowed.
Agreed. I've been in a couple of them now and they are massively
underwhelming. Their "minimalist" design makes them feel like they were
made by Ozito, and they have all the quality of something sold at
K-Mart. I don't mind the big screen and in fact I like them. The Ranger
has a similar 12 inch portrait screen in the middle of the dash and it's
great for the cameras and maps.
Post by Daryl
Where Tesla have excelled is their charging systems, apparently they
shit all over anyone else's by a country mile and it seems that's one of
the main reasons they have sold so many cars, from what I've heard
charging an EV is the main reason people don't buy them and Tesla have
mostly solved that problem.
Couldn't tell you, as I've never bothered to look into that side of
them. All I know from being a passenger in a couple of them is that I'd
never want to own one of the cunts of things.

There are *way* better electric cars out there.
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Noddy.
Xeno
2024-12-18 01:53:01 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
My wife was stopped at the corner of Peel and Victoria Streets in the
city a few months ago waiting to turn left into Peel Street at a red
light when some drug fucked cunt walked up to the car and tried to
open her front passenger door. Possibly to pinch her bag which was
sitting on the passenger's seat, but fuck only knows what his
intentions were. He tried the door a couple of times but it was
locked thanks to the autolock feature, and he walked off and tried
another car before the lights changed and the cars moved off.
That's scary, just as well her doors were locked.
Typical low life scumbag targeting a women on her own.
From what she described I think this cunt of a thing would have tried
to open the door of a police cruiser.
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
This was at 4 o'clock in the afternoon outside Victoria Market, and
this kind of shit is becoming increasingly common in Melbourne. There
is hardly a week goes by now where there isn't a report of similar
things happening in the media every week, and in fact according to
this article there were 359 reports of attempted carjackings in
Post by Daryl
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-delivery-drivers-
increasingly-attacked-in-disturbing-
trend/512449ca-1f05-4763-86a2-0026b53fa2ab
If Keith cannot look at this and see self locking doors as a benefit
then he doesn't *want* to see it.
I suspect that he's not thinking about scenarios like you described above.
I have no idea what he's thinking. He did mention similar things he'd
seen in the US and seemed to hint at why they existed. They exist for
the exact same reason here, but for some reason he doesn't seem to want
to accept that.
I think perhaps the main reason is that he wants to maintain a stance
that is contrary to Felix and not be seen to agree with him.
Omigod, he's a clone of you in that case.
Post by Noddy
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
Tesla's are poorly designed and horrendously built heaps of shit, and
why anyone would *want* one is a total mystery. If people want to buy
EV's that's their choice and more power to them, but almost any other
EV is a better choice than anything made by Tesla.
 From what I've read about them their basic design as in their
electronics and drive is excellent but build quality is typical
American and some of the features are just whacko.
A karaoke machine built into the screen is too weird for me and don't
get me started on that hideous massive screen, electronic only door
locks is IMHO dangerous and shouldn't be allowed.
Agreed. I've been in a couple of them now and they are massively
underwhelming. Their "minimalist" design makes them feel like they were
made by Ozito, and they have all the quality of something sold at K-
Mart. I don't mind the big screen and in fact I like them. The Ranger
has a similar 12 inch portrait screen in the middle of the dash and it's
great for the cameras and maps.
Post by Daryl
Where Tesla have excelled is their charging systems, apparently they
shit all over anyone else's by a country mile and it seems that's one
of the main reasons they have sold so many cars, from what I've heard
charging an EV is the main reason people don't buy them and Tesla have
mostly solved that problem.
Couldn't tell you, as I've never bothered to look into that side of
them. All I know from being a passenger in a couple of them is that I'd
never want to own one of the cunts of things.
There are *way* better electric cars out there.
--
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
alvey
2024-12-18 06:50:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Noddy
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
My wife was stopped at the corner of Peel and Victoria Streets in the
city a few months ago waiting to turn left into Peel Street at a red
light when some drug fucked cunt walked up to the car and tried to
open her front passenger door. Possibly to pinch her bag which was
sitting on the passenger's seat, but fuck only knows what his
intentions were. He tried the door a couple of times but it was
locked thanks to the autolock feature, and he walked off and tried
another car before the lights changed and the cars moved off.
That's scary, just as well her doors were locked.
Typical low life scumbag targeting a women on her own.
From what she described I think this cunt of a thing would have tried
to open the door of a police cruiser.
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
This was at 4 o'clock in the afternoon outside Victoria Market, and
this kind of shit is becoming increasingly common in Melbourne. There
is hardly a week goes by now where there isn't a report of similar
things happening in the media every week, and in fact according to
this article there were 359 reports of attempted carjackings in
Post by Daryl
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-delivery-drivers-
increasingly-attacked-in-disturbing-
trend/512449ca-1f05-4763-86a2-0026b53fa2ab
If Keith cannot look at this and see self locking doors as a benefit
then he doesn't *want* to see it.
I suspect that he's not thinking about scenarios like you described above.
I have no idea what he's thinking. He did mention similar things he'd
seen in the US and seemed to hint at why they existed. They exist for
the exact same reason here, but for some reason he doesn't seem to want
to accept that.
I think perhaps the main reason is that he wants to maintain a stance
that is contrary to Felix and not be seen to agree with him.
Post by Daryl
Post by Noddy
Tesla's are poorly designed and horrendously built heaps of shit, and
why anyone would *want* one is a total mystery. If people want to buy
EV's that's their choice and more power to them, but almost any other
EV is a better choice than anything made by Tesla.
 From what I've read about them their basic design as in their
electronics and drive is excellent but build quality is typical
American and some of the features are just whacko.
A karaoke machine built into the screen is too weird for me and don't
get me started on that hideous massive screen, electronic only door
locks is IMHO dangerous and shouldn't be allowed.
Agreed. I've been in a couple of them now and they are massively
underwhelming. Their "minimalist" design makes them feel like they were
made by Ozito, and they have all the quality of something sold at
K-Mart. I don't mind the big screen and in fact I like them. The Ranger
has a similar 12 inch portrait screen in the middle of the dash and it's
great for the cameras and maps.
Post by Daryl
Where Tesla have excelled is their charging systems, apparently they
shit all over anyone else's by a country mile and it seems that's one
of the main reasons they have sold so many cars, from what I've heard
charging an EV is the main reason people don't buy them and Tesla have
mostly solved that problem.
Couldn't tell you, as I've never bothered to look into that side of
them. All I know from being a passenger in a couple of them is that I'd
never want to own one of the cunts of things.
lol!
And that comprehensive research enables you to blare, "Tesla's are
poorly designed and horrendously built heaps of shit.". What a buffoon
you are.
Post by Noddy
There are *way* better electric cars out there.
As if you'd know.


alvey
Incidentally... Tesla has been scrubbed off my list of cardinates (sic)
for my next vehicle due to Musks' new bromance.

Xeno
2024-12-17 13:03:54 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped
from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have
it sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that
I'll be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global
warming or climate change or whatever the fuck the current
label is. I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can
and can't or must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly
good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to
install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now
they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want
to get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and
who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night,
felix is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He
needs to start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in
and 'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he
starts to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself
out! You can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching
fire is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion
engine (ICE) passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs
is 8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV
spontaneous combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures
appears to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a
mechanical bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they
have no clue since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-
trapped- inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
As a car owner you _should_ know where the manual release is, as a
passenger, it's something that you should check as soon as you get
in a different car. It's a case of taking responsibility for your
own safety.
The biggest danger is to kids with the childproof locks engaged, and
the door unable to be opened from either side
Post by Mighty Mouse
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke
a window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the
time, been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a
window aperture?
certainly not
It's nothing to do with BEVs, it's the way that every car in the US
works. They all lock the doors while in motion. Our Pontiac locked
the doors when the gear shift was moved out of park, our Passat
locked them as soon as the car got above 15mph. Same with every car
that I've driven over there. They all though could be unlocked from
inside, personally I disliked the idea because, if you were
unconscious after a crash, rescue would be difficult.
It's also normal over there that, if you unlock the car with a
remote, only the drivers door will unlock, you have to press a
second time to unlock the rest. I asked an American friend why,
apparently it's to prevent a mugger from jumping in from the
passenger side. Yanks are more than a little paranoid.
My MB and my wifes Golf both lock their doors above a certain low
speed of something like 10kph, AFAIK the MB unlocks the doors if a
crash is strong enough to set off an airbag or a crash sensor, very
likely the VW is the same, both can be unlocked from inside using the
internal door handles.
You notice an audible clunk when the doors lock, Porsche might also
lock the doors but if it does I never notice any sound.
First car I drove with auto door locking was a 1978 Toyota Crown so
its certainly not a new idea, my son and his girlfriend both own MB
and both cars lock their doors automatically.
According to a fireman I know in a BEV fire the flames are not as
dangerous as the fumes which are very toxic, he said that if you see
an EV on fire if you can't get the occupants out in 30 secs just run
away because they as good as dead anyway and you are putting yourself
in extreme danger if you inhale any of the fumes.
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion, the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent the
doors from opening in a crash.
Its not about the doors being locked while the car is in motion, its
about them being locked when the car is stopped at traffic lights or
stopped for some other reason, prevention of car jacking etc.
Car jacking whilst not a major problem in Australia but its not unheard
of, less likely to be a problem where you or I live but certainly in
inner city areas where there are lots more people about and cars stop
and start a lot more and especially late at night.
Less likely to be a problem if the car is occupied by a couple of adult
males but I like the idea of locked doors if my wife or my 2 daughter in
laws were out alone.
It varies from car to car but even on my 22 yr old MB I can turn that
feature off if I wish, I think I can also vary the speed that it locks
at, pretty sure I also can turn it off on the Golf but since my wife
drives it most of the time it will stay on.
BTW I think its crazy to just have electronic internal door handles like
Tesla does, AFAIK they are supposed to open in a crash but it still a
crazy idea.
Not all models of Teslas have deleted mechanical inside door openers.
They have an option at the front door. Some models don't have an option
at the rear doors - like the model Y. Given the risk of fire, I'd like a
mechanical option at *all doors*.
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
alvey
2024-12-17 11:14:04 UTC
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I fail to see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion,
In your case that's true. That's because your car isn't worth stealing.


hth


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2024-12-17 11:26:32 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion, the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent the
doors from opening in a crash.
Jaysus Richo! You know that you've really bottomed when even Fraudster &
Deryl call you an idiot.



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Xeno
2024-12-17 12:59:15 UTC
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Post by alvey
Post by Keithr0
I failto see any reason for locking the doors while the car is in
motion, the locking mechanism will do little or nothing to prevent the
doors from opening in a crash.
Jaysus Richo! You know that you've really bottomed when even Fraudster &
Deryl call you an idiot.
alvey
Rock bottom, simply not possible to get any lower.
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Xeno
2024-12-16 01:36:28 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more,
and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a
relative), but it meant that I had to fight the crowds down
in boganville. I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD
school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in
their garage 99% of the time being used as a household
generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start
up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town
to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally
negates any planet saving goodness you and your electric
vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger
and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to
go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there
shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE
cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned
us with solar panels. got everyone to install them, then
dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we can't
have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is
shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss'
it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb
out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You can read
the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt those
numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per
day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of fires skewed
the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some Jewish stocktake
events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears to
be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical bypass
but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue since they
have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re electronic
and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know* where the
manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly likely you
will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd hate
to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Some Teslas, Model Y IIRC, do not have a rear door manual release. In an
emergency, as in after an accident, you may be in no fit state to be
clambering over to the front seat in order to exit. That's not even
considering the fact that you may be in a panic. What's more, you might
end up in a smoke filled car, and if you are aware of the toxicity of
the smoke from Lithium ion battery fires, you'll be panicking even more.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
Post by Xeno
As far as I'm concerned, you can stick your BEVs where the sun don't
shine. I suggest everyone do the same *until and unless* something
much more safe than current battery tech is developed.
I agree! what surprises me is how quickly car companies have produced
them, and so many models. they must have been planning for and designing
them years ago. it's testimony to the ability of the car industry to
adapt production. I guess robots and computer control makes that possible.
(cue keefy "silly little etc.,)
--
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-16 06:08:16 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er)
ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they
conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them,
then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we
can't have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash,
so they can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Some Teslas, Model Y IIRC, do not have a rear door manual release. In
an emergency, as in after an accident, you may be in no fit state to
be clambering over to the front seat in order to exit. That's not even
considering the fact that you may be in a panic. What's more, you
might end up in a smoke filled car, and if you are aware of the
toxicity of the smoke from Lithium ion battery fires, you'll be
panicking even more.
there seems to be a lot of design flaws with Teslas from what I've seen
Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
Post by Xeno
As far as I'm concerned, you can stick your BEVs where the sun don't
shine. I suggest everyone do the same *until and unless* something
much more safe than current battery tech is developed.
I agree! what surprises me is how quickly car companies have produced
them, and so many models. they must have been planning for and
designing them years ago. it's testimony to the ability of the car
industry to adapt production. I guess robots and computer control
makes that possible.
(cue keefy "silly little etc.,)
--
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Xeno
2024-12-16 06:51:38 UTC
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Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar
more, and a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present
for a relative), but it meant that I had to fight the
crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from
$1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would
think paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it
sit in their garage 99% of the time being used as a
household generator is a good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I
start up my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive
into town to get my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute
trip totally negates any planet saving goodness you and
your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional
charger and whatever the fuck else you need to spend your
money on to go totally "green", knowing full well that I'll
be out there shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming
or climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is.
I'm so sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or
must do. they want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er)
ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with EV's. and they
conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install them,
then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we
can't have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash,
so they can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix
is shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to
start it up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and
'Yesss' it starts! A quick adjustment is required to he starts
to climb out of the car, but slips and knocks himself out! You
can read the rest in the Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire
is 0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE)
passenger vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate
only to Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the
Chinese increase their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt
those numbers up. BTW, in China, the current burn rate of BEVs is
8 per day average. Used to be 7 until recently but a spate of
fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those numbers include some
Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears
to be the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical
bypass but, if you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue
since they have not yet RTFM.
what a way to go. cooked inside your own car!
I could think of nicer ways to off myself than by owning a Tesla.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-
inside-burning-tesla
This article points out some of the details I mentioned re
electronic and manual door locks. As a car owner, you *might know*
where the manual releases are located. As a passenger, it's highly
likely you will not. That's bad! In fact, I'd call it criminal.
crazy! you'd have to tell everyone who gets in the car about the
'emergency exits'. and the rear one is particularly cumbersome. I'd
hate to be fumbling for it while my pants were on fire.
Some Teslas, Model Y IIRC, do not have a rear door manual release. In
an emergency, as in after an accident, you may be in no fit state to
be clambering over to the front seat in order to exit. That's not even
considering the fact that you may be in a panic. What's more, you
might end up in a smoke filled car, and if you are aware of the
toxicity of the smoke from Lithium ion battery fires, you'll be
panicking even more.
there seems to be a lot of design flaws with Teslas from what I've seen
It certainly seems that way though I'd label it *design deficiencies* to
be more precise.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Xeno
Note, one passenger in the car was saved by a bystander who broke a
window and hauled a female passenger out. Would he, had he the time,
been able to haul out burly male passengers? Through a window aperture?
certainly not
Post by Xeno
As far as I'm concerned, you can stick your BEVs where the sun don't
shine. I suggest everyone do the same *until and unless* something
much more safe than current battery tech is developed.
I agree! what surprises me is how quickly car companies have produced
them, and so many models. they must have been planning for and
designing them years ago. it's testimony to the ability of the car
industry to adapt production. I guess robots and computer control
makes that possible.
(cue keefy "silly little etc.,)
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Xeno
2024-12-15 07:55:22 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and
a similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative),
but it meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville.
I also noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays,
petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their
garage 99% of the time being used as a household generator is a
good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up
my old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get
my paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any
planet saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope
to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go
totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there
shitting all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02
emissions will make one scrap of difference re global warming or
climate change or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so
sick of the govt telling us what we can and can't or must do. they
want us to get rid of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace
them at huge cost with EV's. and they conned us with solar panels.
got everyone to install them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and
now they're saying we can't have gas appliances. and they want to
get rid of cash, so they can control our spending, and who knows
what's next.
...
In the not too distant future on a chilly & windy night, felix is
shut up in his garage working on his beloved MG. He needs to start it
up to test his latest tinker, so he gets in and 'Yesss' it starts! A
quick adjustment is required to he starts to climb out of the car,
but slips and knocks himself out! You can read the rest in the
Coroners report.
Fact: Not one person has ever died of Co2 poisoning from a BEV.
but some have died from them catching fire
According to the Swinburne Inst;
"Fire rate: The rate of passenger vehicle batteries catching fire is
0.0012%, compared to 0.1% for internal combustion engine (ICE) passenger
vehicles".
I have seen a greatly different set of numbers. Yours may relate only to
Aus rather than worldwide. Expect that to change as the Chinese increase
their marketing drive here. I'll have to hunt those numbers up. BTW, in
China, the current burn rate of BEVs is 8 per day average. Used to be 7
until recently but a spate of fires skewed the numbers. Wonder if those
numbers include some Jewish stocktake events?
Post by alvey
Give that discrepancy, it makes you wonder why an EV spontaneous
combustion is such a headline in Oz...
With BEV cars, when it happens, one of the first failures appears to be
the *all electric doors*. Sure, *some* have a mechanical bypass but, if
you ask the average BEV owner, they have no clue since they have not yet
RTFM.
Post by alvey
alvey
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Mighty Mouse
2024-12-15 01:33:59 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by alvey
Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but
it meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I
also noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays,
petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think
paying 120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their
garage 99% of the time being used as a household generator is a
good idea.
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my
old V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my
paper and coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any
planet saving goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to
achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go
totally "green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting
all over that for you.
You're welcome :)
You're not.
What you are is an insane arsehole.
Any of Fraudsters mates have any comment on his lifestyle choice?
I say good on him! NOTHING we do here in Oz to mitigate C02 emissions
will make one scrap of difference re global warming or climate change
or whatever the fuck the current label is. I'm so sick of the govt
telling us what we can and can't or must do. they want us to get rid
of perfectly good old(er) ICE cars and replace them at huge cost with
EV's. and they conned us with solar panels. got everyone to install
them, then dropped the feed in tariff. and now they're saying we
can't have gas appliances. and they want to get rid of cash, so they
can control our spending, and who knows what's next.
Sigh. It's so hard to get good sycophants these days.
that's cos you don't pay enuff..
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stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Xeno
2024-12-14 10:51:08 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a
similar set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it
meant that I had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also
noticed that, on the first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had
jumped from $1.63 to $2.07 strange coincidence there :)
**That EV Maccan is looking better every day huh?
ROTFL :)
Only someone in an advanced state of mental decay would think paying
120+ thousand bucks for a car only to have it sit in their garage 99% of
the time being used as a household generator is a good idea.
A BEV, no matter how much is paid for it, will *never* function as a
*household generator*. It is a *physical impossibility*.
Post by Noddy
Here's something for you to ponder, Trev. Every time I start up my old
V8 powered truck and take it for a drive into town to get my paper and
coffee, that one 15 minute trip totally negates any planet saving
goodness you and your electric vehicle could hope to achieve in a month.
So buy your EV, your solar panels, your bidirectional charger and
whatever the fuck else you need to spend your money on to go totally
"green", knowing full well that I'll be out there shitting all over that
for you.
You're welcome :)
Such a selfish prick! No small wonder you're a massive liar with it.
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Daryl
2024-12-14 06:37:42 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life
support. So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable
price from a supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the
same day he reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking
number. The tracking number came from a courier mob called
Aramex and indicated that the goods had indeed been picked up on
the 13th. The tracking did not updated, and after a cpouple of
weeks I tried to contact Aramex, they don't answer their phone,
but also they have internet chat, but they don't answer that
either. I checked reviews for them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the
same story long delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days
from Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a
bicycle in that time. Next time I order something online, I will
specify do NOT ship by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the
original radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a
usable state, I ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from
China in just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new
(prolly a year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't
checked, but I assume they're a large, foreign owned company,
that has bought out some of the larger trucking companies. Either
that, or they're a new guy on the block and are undercutting all
the other freight companies.
They are not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramex
**YIKES! That explains a great deal.
I had a parcel delivered by them last Saturday, tracking said that
it was due last Friday so only one day late and it took approx one
week Syd to Melb so nothing unusual.
Interesting that the delivery vehicle was a Camry sedan, they must
be getting desperate if they need to use private cars to do
deliveries on a Saturday.
**I am available almost every day of the week. My doorbell senses
anyone who approaches the front door and records any movement.
Despite this, I frequently receive email notifications that my
package has been delivered and was signed for. When I receive such an
email, I walk out to the front fence, where the package has been
dropped over the fence. Only since Aramex arrived has this shit been
happening.
Very likely because they pay their drivers bugger all, they simply
don't get paid enough to do the job properly, some of the per parcel
rates they get paid in 2024 are less what what I was paid back in the
late 80's, only difference is now the volumes are higher and they can
deliver more in the same time but still overall the pay is pretty poor
which is why the service is crap.
Amazon has it's problems too. I was expecting a package with a pair of
Sony Earphones, and a set of spanners. I got a tracking number, and
Amazons tracking showed the package originating in Dandenong, and
traveling to a place in NSW, and there it stayed. The due date went
past, and Amazon said that the package may be lost and I could apply for
a refund. Checking the couriers tracking site rather than Amazon,
indicated that they had received the paperwork, but not the article.
More checking showed that the last location was actually an Amazon
warehouse.
On Amazons website there is a button to get them to call back. The phone
rang 2 minutes later, the operator processed a refund within minutes. So
while Amazon can fuck up too, they do give a fuck where Aramex don't.
I found the headphones at J B Hifi, at just a dollar more, and a similar
set of spanners a Bunnings (present for a relative), but it meant that I
had to fight the crowds down in boganville. I also noticed that, on the
first day of QLD school holidays, petrol had jumped from $1.63 to $2.07
strange coincidence there :)
How surprising, so far petrol prices have stayed the same locally to me.
Most Govt primary schools around here don't finish till next week,
secondary finished on Friday, hopefully petrol prices won't go up when
they do all finish.
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Mighty Mouse
2024-12-02 21:11:11 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support.
So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a
supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he
reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking number. The
tracking number came from a courier mob called Aramex and indicated
that the goods had indeed been picked up on the 13th. The tracking
did not updated, and after a cpouple of weeks I tried to contact
Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but also they have internet
chat, but they don't answer that either. I checked reviews for them,
a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from
Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that
time. Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship
by Aramex.
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
**I get a fair bit of stuff delivered. Aramex is pretty new (prolly a
year or so on the market). And hopeless. I haven't checked, but I
assume they're a large, foreign owned company, that has bought out
some of the larger trucking companies. Either that, or they're a new
guy on the block and are undercutting all the other freight companies.
They are not good.
definitely not good. they have an appalling reputation. ebay use them
for their shipping, so anyone selling on ebay should arrange their own
freight, and not use ebay shipping. I use https://au.interparcel.com/
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Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
Noddy
2024-12-02 10:06:06 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it reckons
that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support. So I found
an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a supplier in Perth.
I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he reported that he had
shipped it and sent a tracking number. The tracking number came from a
courier mob called Aramex and indicated that the goods had indeed been
picked up on the 13th. The tracking did not updated, and after a cpouple
of weeks I tried to contact Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but
also they have internet chat, but they don't answer that either. I
checked reviews for them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long
delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from Perth
to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that time.
Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship by Aramex.
I've got a camshaft and set of rocker arms on the way over from Perth as
we speak. They're a week into the shipping. Hopefully it's not by them.
Post by Keithr0
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
Lol :)

I've had stuff from China faster than I've had it from Qld :)
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Clocky
2024-12-02 10:14:48 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it reckons
that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support. So I found
an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a supplier in Perth.
I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he reported that he had
shipped it and sent a tracking number. The tracking number came from a
courier mob called Aramex and indicated that the goods had indeed been
picked up on the 13th. The tracking did not updated, and after a cpouple
of weeks I tried to contact Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but
also they have internet chat, but they don't answer that either. I
checked reviews for them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long
delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from Perth
to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that time.
Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship by Aramex.
It's not that unusual for ex-east shipping here to take that long when
stuff from China is in my hand in 3 days and I'm in regional WA.
Post by Keithr0
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
It's possible the original ones might still have lasted longer than the
new ones will - it's hit and miss as to the quality of automotive parts.
They old ones usually come off pretty easily so keep them as a spare.
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proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
lindsay
2024-12-02 10:29:41 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it reckons
that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support. So I found
an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a supplier in Perth.
I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he reported that he had
shipped it and sent a tracking number. The tracking number came from a
courier mob called Aramex and indicated that the goods had indeed been
picked up on the 13th. The tracking did not updated, and after a cpouple
of weeks I tried to contact Aramex, they don't answer their phone, but
also they have internet chat, but they don't answer that either. I
checked reviews for them, a solid 1 star out of 5, the same story long
delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from Perth
to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that time.
Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship by Aramex.
Hahaha Aramex bought out fastway (Glacierway) from memory...

in the last month, the wife and I have had parcels from Melb to Melb
bpth go via Perth, and all my bank statements vanished in an express
post satchel, never to be seen again... (did have senders addy on the
back...)

Currently semi-enjoying our 8th and possibly last cruise.. south of
Adelaide.. was watching some bait balls being molested by dolphins and
no doubt southern bluefin tuna underneath...
Post by Keithr0
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
Hahahahaha ive been ordering plastic Aquarium plants from Temu... 5 days
to get to the airport, and 5 days for flight, customs and delivery.
Keithr0
2024-12-02 11:08:12 UTC
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Post by lindsay
Post by Keithr0
I'm replacing the radiator on the MX-5, the guy who services it
reckons that the 33 year old plastic header tank is on life support.
So I found an aluminium one on eBay at a reasonable price from a
supplier in Perth. I ordered it on 13 November, the same day he
reported that he had shipped it and sent a tracking number. The
tracking number came from a courier mob called Aramex and indicated
that the goods had indeed been picked up on the 13th. The tracking did
not updated, and after a cpouple of weeks I tried to contact Aramex,
they don't answer their phone, but also they have internet chat, but
they don't answer that either. I checked reviews for them, a solid 1
star out of 5, the same story long delays, and unresponsive.
The package did eventually arrive an hour ago, that's 19 days from
Perth to Brisbane, I think that you could do it on a bicycle in that
time. Next time I order something online, I will specify do NOT ship
by Aramex.
Hahaha Aramex bought out fastway (Glacierway) from memory...
in the last month, the wife and I have had parcels from Melb to Melb
bpth go via Perth, and all my bank statements vanished in an express
post satchel, never to be seen again... (did have senders addy on the
back...)
Currently semi-enjoying our 8th and possibly last cruise.. south of
Adelaide.. was watching some bait balls being molested by dolphins and
no doubt southern bluefin tuna underneath...
Post by Keithr0
Since I didn't think that the hoses that have been on the original
radiator for 33 years were going to come off in a usable state, I
ordered some silicone ones, they arrived from China in just over a week.
Hahahahaha ive been ordering plastic Aquarium plants from Temu... 5 days
to get to the airport, and 5 days for flight, customs and delivery.
Did you see that George Thorogood is doing a tour next year along with
ZZ-Top. Going just about everywhere except Brisbane - bastards!
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